We must restore constitutional government

[P@triot]

How many trans people do you know?

As usual, you can’t even follow the discussion. This isn’t about “trans people”, you sick sex-obsessed freak.

It’s about government attempting to take over parental rights and parental decisions, devoid of any reasonable legal grounds to do so.

 

[JoeB131]

Chemical castration is child abuse, moron.

which isn't what anyone is doing.... but never mind.

Why do you believe otherwise? How would it come into a kid's head that he should have an operation to change his sex if it wasn't for leftwing propaganda?

I'll ask you again- when did you decide to be straight?

If you want to claim that sexual orientation or identity is a "choice", then there had to be a point where you made that decision.

 

[JoeB131]

You missed the entire discussion (as usual). Government employees should not attempt to make major life choices for children (while simultaneously hiding those major life choices from the child’s parent). Only a left-wing lunatic would think that that kind of Nazi, Germany bullshit is a good idea.

Except, of course, no one is doing that.

Again, you guys live under the impression that sexual orientation is a choice. It really isn't.

When did you decide you liked girls?

As usual, you can’t even follow the discussion. This isn’t about “trans people”, you sick sex-obsessed freak.

It’s about government attempting to take over parental rights and parental decisions, devoid of any reasonable legal grounds to do so.

Except we ask teachers to do these things all the time... to report child abuse, to develop educational programs for special needs students, etc.

 

[JoeB131]

You did not mention gay, and neither did I. Touch not the goalposts.

It's the same thing. Sexual orientation and identity aren't "choices". They are what they are.

When did you decide to become a cisgender straight male? Oh, wait, you didn't. You just were.

God always delivers the perfect news story directly to me whenever Joey spreads propaganda (never even have to search for this stuff ).

Sure pays to be a selfish left-wing marxist, doesn't it Joey???

Uh, guy, you can worry about that sort of thing, I don't.

Who decides what equals "trust"? You keep creating a false narrative. The argument is if a fucking government employee has the right to help a child make a life-altering decision while hiding that decision from the parents (the answer of course is hell no, no matter how much children transitioning turns you on).

You backed yourself into a corner and now you sound like a lunatic.

Again, your whole premise is that this is a 'decision". Which begs the question again, when did you decide to be straight, assuming you are and not a closeted homosexual like Rush Limbaugh.

Children aren't the property of their parents...

 

[JoeB131]

Are you acting ignorant, or are you really that ignorant about this issue?

As you know, as a result of Communist China unleashing a deadly virus on the world. As a result, tens of millions of people were thrown out of work and millions of businesses had to close through no fault of their own.

China did nothing of the sort. Trump had months of warning that this Covid thing was a problem and he ignored it.

WTF? Was President Trump in charge in Italy? Canada? Japan? France?

Actually, Japan handled Covid pretty well. Even though they were much closer to China, they did all the things Trump refused to do, cancelled the Olympics, imposed social distancing nation-wide.

So while the US has had over half a million Covid deaths, Japan's total covid deaths are less than 10,000. Even more impressive when you remember Japan has more old people than we have.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

You did not mention gay, and neither did I. Touch not the goalposts.

It's the same thing.

It's absolutely not. Pretending you are what you can never be is a mental disorder, the same as someone claiming to be Napoleon or Jesus.

Children aren't the property of their parents...

Like hell.

 

[P@triot]

You missed the entire discussion (as usual). Government employees should not attempt to make major life choices for children (while simultaneously hiding those major life choices from the child’s parent). Only a left-wing lunatic would think that that kind of Nazi, Germany bullshit is a good idea.

Except, of course, no one is doing that.

Uhhh...that’s exactly what is happening. That’s what the entire article was about. Stopping that nonsense. Man you need to learn how to read.

 

[P@triot]

Again, you guys live under the impression that sexual orientation is a choice.

WTF are you even talking about? None of this is about “sexual orientation”. It’s about the transgender mental illness and schools assisting children in transitioning while hiding it from parents. You’re not even following the discussion here.

It really isn't.

But since you brought up the left’s favorite topic (sexual deviance), I have never said that sexual orientation is a “choice”. Never.

But that has nothing to do with the mental illness of gender dysphoria or the topic of schools making “gender transition” decisions for students while hiding it from parents.

 

[P@triot]

Children aren't the property of their parents...

Want to bet? The sure as fuck are. But they are not the property of the state, despite your deep desire for them to be.

 

[Leviticus]

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’

Arguably not since 1803, but certainly not since the 1860s.

All states need to reassert their authority under the 10th Amendment.

There is a very deep misunderstanding of exactly what the 10th amendment does. For some odd reason for writers have it in their heads that if a law is not specifically written word for word in the Constitution that it's unconstitutional.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

English. Means what it says, no more no less.

The authority to pass law is a singular power. Every single law does not need specific language written in the constitution to authorize it.

Indeed, but the legislation passed may not surpass the authority assigned to the federal government by the Constitution. The federal government may not legally grant itself additional authority short of a constitutional amendment.

Yes but there has always been debate over exactly what the constitution gives authority over.

Elections are a prime example. The constitution gives states control over elections, but it also allows Congress to regulate elections in cases where state laws violate voters rights or other cases.
This is something many on the right ignore.

 

[JoeB131]

It's absolutely not. Pretending you are what you can never be is a mental disorder, the same as someone claiming to be Napoleon or Jesus.

Uh, guy, we have people who have breast augmentations, liposuctions, gastric bypasses, hair transplants all the time trying to change their physical characteristics.

Are all those people mentally ill as well?

 

[JoeB131]

Want to bet? The sure as fuck are. But they are not the property of the state, despite your deep desire for them to be.

No, they really aren't the property of their parents. They are the responsibility of their parents and their teachers.

If a teacher sees something going on, they have a responsiblity to take action. Usually that should involve the parents, but sometimes it doesn't.

So what are we talking about here. We are talking about teachers getting kids help dealing with their gender identity when their parents are religious nuts. Just can't see that as a bad thing.

Now, if we can get parents to stop inflicting religion on their kids, that would be awesome. I would have LOVED to have avoided 12 years of Catholic Stupidity.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

It's absolutely not. Pretending you are what you can never be is a mental disorder, the same as someone claiming to be Napoleon or Jesus.

Uh, guy, we have people who have breast augmentations, liposuctions, gastric bypasses, hair transplants all the time trying to change their physical characteristics.

Are all those people mentally ill as well?

Nope. Just vain. They are trying to improve what they have, not change what they are and demand everyone accept their delusion.

You can hack off a penis and have plastic tits installed, but it's no more than a permanent Halloween costume.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope. Just vain. They are trying to improve what they have, not change what they are and demand everyone accept their delusion.

You can hack off a penis and have plastic tits installed, but it's no more than a permanent Halloween costume.

Again, how is that any different than any other cosmetic surgery? I mean other than your horror at the thought of picking up a he-she at the bar.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Nope. Just vain. They are trying to improve what they have, not change what they are and demand everyone accept their delusion.

You can hack off a penis and have plastic tits installed, but it's no more than a permanent Halloween costume.

Again, how is that any different than any other cosmetic surgery? I mean other than your horror at the thought of picking up a he-she at the bar.

That you do not understand why is indicative of your level of intelligence.

 

[JoeB131]

That you do not understand why is indicative of your level of intelligence.

Naw, guy, the only reason why this upsets you is our own bigotry. It's a lot easier to get a tummy tuck than sex-reassignment surgery.

 

[P@triot]

Again, how is that any different than any other cosmetic surgery? I mean other than your horror at the thought of picking up a he-she at the bar.

Your enthusiasm for the idea that you might pick up a he-she at a bar is rather disturbing. You get far too turned on by this shit. FFS man.

 

[P@triot]

It's a lot easier to get a tummy tuck than sex-reassignment surgery.

I would hope so. A tummy-tuck isn't genital mutilation. Fuck, it's not even permanent.

 

[JimH52]

“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.

When I first read “We must restore constitutional government”...I thought we were going have another January 6th....

 

[JoeB131]

Your enthusiasm for the idea that you might pick up a he-she at a bar is rather disturbing. You get far too turned on by this shit. FFS man.

Naw, I don't give it much thought at all, other than all you wingnuts who are obsessed by it... you think that Caitlin Jenner is going to march on your churches and piss on your bibles.

I would hope so. A tummy-tuck isn't genital mutilation. Fuck, it's not even permanent.

It's body mutilation... so are boob jobs, hair plugs, etc.