We must also draw down existing CO2 levels

[frigidweirdo]

The challenge is not just to cease emissions, but also to draw down existing levels. It can be done, and here is one of the ways;

You can't "cease emissions".

What would CO2 levels on the planet be if humans hadn't have industrialized?

About 280 ppm, not the present 410+ ppm. And CH4 would be about 600 t0 700 ppb, not the present 1850+ ppb. That you even ask that question in an indication of your ignorance.

Are you sure?

Historic Co2 levels

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Historically it's been much, much higher. And the levels have never remained stable even in the last 100,000 years.

"Based on geological evidence collected over the six decades scientists have been tracking atmospheric CO₂, this year's peak appears to be the highest in as long as 4.5 million years. This continued accumulation of greenhouse gas is driving dangerous global heating around the world.

In 1958, when modern measurements began, atmospheric CO₂ was at 316 ppm. Three centuries ago, before the beginning of the industrial age, geological records show that number was 280 ppm. In other words, by burning fossil fuels in generators and cars, humanity has increased concentrations of the most important greenhouse gas by 50%." CO2 reaches its highest level in more than 4 million years

Homo Sapiens has only been around for about 200 to 300 thousand years. In that time, it has never been above 300 ppm. And the CH4 had never been above 700 ppb, and is now 1850+ ppb. For every degree, celsius, of increase in heat in the atmosphere, the atmosphere can hold 7% more water vapor, a very potent GHG. Climate Signals | Atmospheric Moisture Increase.

The problem here is that the Earth changes. Temperatures change, CO2 changes and often we don't understand why.

Why were CO2 levels really high ages ago?

What impact does CO2 have on temperatures?

Carbon Dioxide Levels Just Hit 417ppm, Highest In Human History

Country-wide lockdowns and quarantine acted to temporarily decrease emissions of global greenhouse gas. However, as the yearly May benchmark was released it appears to have done little to slow the ever-increasing rise in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

www.forbes.com

CO2 got down as long as 150 in the contemporary period (last 400,000 years), got up to 300

Figure 11.1: Temperature change over the past 400,000 years correlate...

Download scientific diagram | 1: Temperature change over the past 400,000 years correlate closely with variations in carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere (Source: http://www.klimafakten.de/behauptungen/behauptung- der-co2-anstieg-ist-nicht-ursache-sondern-folge-des-klimawandels...

www.researchgate.net

But temperatures got HIGHER than they currently are, even in the last heating period.

So.... Also, CO2 levels get high and then it causes a massive drop. So potentially we should be worried about global cooling.

And no, I'm not a climate change denier. I'm a person who believes we should live in balance with the world. I just think people make bad arguments which make it easy for those who are deniers.

 

[badbob85037]

The challenge is not just to cease emissions, but also to draw down existing levels. It can be done, and here is one of the ways;

Does anyone remember the late 60's early 70's? Half our water ways could not be fished or swim. A black cloud called smog covered every city. Acid rain that ate the paint off cars. Not only did your lungs and eyes burn but your skin It was bad so you crying leftist shut up.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The challenge is not just to cease emissions, but also to draw down existing levels. It can be done, and here is one of the ways;

You can't "cease emissions".

What would CO2 levels on the planet be if humans hadn't have industrialized?

About 280 ppm, not the present 410+ ppm. And CH4 would be about 600 t0 700 ppb, not the present 1850+ ppb. That you even ask that question in an indication of your ignorance.

What would the Earth's temperature be ?

 

[ding]

Widespread use of solar panels will cause cooling so just do more of those.

 

[EMH]

Co2 is not a variable that explains earth climate change.

Your cause is fraud.

90% of earth ice is on Antarctica... Yet the north and south poles both have the same amount of co2

Damn. OK, another prime example of Dunning-Kruger. The Arctic Ocean is a sea surrounded by land, The Antarctic is a continent surrounded by oceans. If that means nothing to you, I suggest you try repeating the third grade.

Lol


90% of earth ice on Antarctica
7% of earth ice on Greenland

97% of earth ice on the two land masses closest to an earth pole.... And land moves.....

So if earth had two polar oceans, would it be warmer or colder than if earth had two polar continents, two "antarcticas?"

If Antarctica was on the North Pole, what temperature would it be outside where you live???


Lol,,,,,


Antarctica has 70 million year old Dino fossils. Those dinosaurs did not live on top of 2 miles of ice at -60F....

Antarctica was not on the South Pole 70 million years ago.... It moved there....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I am the one appreciating the advancing technology, you are the silly ass wanting to go back to the 19th century.

Don't you want to go back to the CO2 levels of the 19th Century?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The challenge is not just to cease emissions, but also to draw down existing levels. It can be done, and here is one of the ways;

carbon dioxide is necessary for life on the planet

You cannot live without salt. So just eat a quart of it, cannot possibly hurt you since it is necessary for life.

You're so unscientific.

Are you telling China they have to reduce their CO2 or is it only American CO2 that's the problem?

 

[jc456]

Oxygen is also necessary.

you obviously don't get enough, your brain is dying.

 

[jc456]

Widespread use of solar panels will cause cooling so just do more of those.

actually the glass on the panels produce more heat than dirt.

 

[ding]

Widespread use of solar panels will cause cooling so just do more of those.

actually the glass on the panels produce more heat than dirt.

But any solar radiation that is converted into electricity is solar radiation that does not get absorbed by the surface of the earth.

Now silly people like old socks and marmot think that all of that heat is returned to the earth when the electricity is used but that just isn't the case because most of that energy gets converted into mechanical work or kinetic energy. Plus they ignore the fact that that heat would already be accounted for from by other electrical generation sources (such as gas, coal, wind, hydro and nuclear) that don't capture solar radiation that would have warmed the surface of the earth.

So people will eventually realize that solar power has a cooling effect on the plant. Especially when they see glaciers starting to cover parts of North America, Europe and Asia.

 

[gipper]

The challenge is not just to cease emissions, but also to draw down existing levels. It can be done, and here is one of the ways;

carbon dioxide is necessary for life on the planet

You cannot live without salt. So just eat a quart of it, cannot possibly hurt you since it is necessary for life.

You're so unscientific.

Are you telling China they have to reduce their CO2 or is it only American CO2 that's the problem?

No need to worry about AGW folks. When the sun micro novas in the next 20-30 years while earth’s magnetic field is greatly weakened, it’s back to the Stone Age. I suppose this will make warmers happy until they starve to death.

 

[Bidensucks]

We can plant a trillion trees and build 200 nuclear plants. This is how we defeat global warming if your thinking is reality.

 

[fncceo]

If that means nothing to you, I suggest you try repeating the third grade.

Do you find that talking down to people wins you a lot of converts?

 

[skookerasbil]

The OP sure has fallen hard for the lie of AGW. Or is he paid to post this stuff?

Sad that there are so many intellectually stunted people incapable of understanding basic science. You have my sympathy.

To me, the intellectually stunted are those who just completely ignore that fact that China builds 2-3 new coal plants every month for the past 4 year and will be building the same amount until 2030......another 9 years!

The climate crusaders need analogies to put it into perspective.

So that is exactly like somebody pointing out to a person that, "Hey buddy.....you know something.......that nose of yours is pretty damn big! Ever think of getting nose job surgery to fix it?"

And the guy has a football sized goiter growing on the side of his neck!

This is exactly why the public cares very little about doing anything about global warming. Because..........d0y........it is an exercise in futility. I mean........c'mon now.

 

[skookerasbil]

Notice something..........none of these climate obsessed folk ever try to offer any realistic solution to reach their agenda goals. Never.

I mean.......ok......we want to lower C02 emissions. Not possible without building a 35,000 foot high lexan bubble over the continental US, Hawaii and Alaska. That would sure do it. Hate to break it to the climate bozos but China really does exist......a few thousand miles away btw........they build coal plants faster than McDonalds sells cheeseburgers. d0y

Most human beings are able to connect the dots on what is possible and what is imagined. Not the climate k00ks. The thinking is fcuked. The good news is......most in the public are able to think on the margin and know silly proposals quite quickly. Which is why voters routinely dont care a wit about climate change when they go into a voting booth. The evidence is profound.

 

[skookerasbil]

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-Started-More-Coal-Plants-Than-The-Entire-World-Retired-In-2020.html

 

[skookerasbil]

Yet another climate OCD thread train wrecked by a skeptic.

 

[gipper]

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-Started-More-Coal-Plants-Than-The-Entire-World-Retired-In-2020.html

So true...and it’s not just coal plants China pollutes with. They are the world’s manufacturing center. Those enormous number of manufacturing plants pollute too.

In addition, most warmers will believe humans pollute by just existing. China has a hell of a lot more humans than the USA.

Hmmm...maybe there’s an ulterior motive in play.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-Started-More-Coal-Plants-Than-The-Entire-World-Retired-In-2020.html

Old Rocks: Make China Great Again!

 

[skookerasbil]

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-Started-More-Coal-Plants-Than-The-Entire-World-Retired-In-2020.html

Old Rocks: Make China Great Again!