We Knew this was coming.

[Mad_Cabbie]

Women aren't as good as doing pull-ups as men.

What's your point?

Do you enjoy being the board laughingstock?

Do you have something to say with regards to your OWN thread or was it not actually up for debate?

You posted a cut and paste with no comment on the matter other than some crap about liberals - was seeking to understand your stance on the issue.



Tell you what, never mind!

Bye!


P.S.

This thread needs a mercy bump - bad.

 

[Pogo]

Just another form of affirmative action. Can any of you hateful liberals justify this?

Female Marines Not Required To Do 1 Pull-Up | CNS News

December 27, 2013 - 2:02 PM

(CNSNews.com) -- Females in the Marine Corps currently are not required to do pull-ups as part of their physical training, and a deadline mandating that they do at least 3 pull-ups by Jan. 1, 2014 as part of their training has been delayed for at least a year, the Corps quietly announced on social media.

Unlike their female counterparts, male Marines have long been required to do at least 3 pullups as part of the Physical Fitness Test (PFT). That's the minimum requirement for males.

Female Marines are required, however, to do a flexed-arm hang from a bar, and their PFT score is calculated based upon how long they can properly hang on the bar. (See video for pull-ups and flexed-arm hang demonstrations.)

Currently, “women aren’t able to make the minimum standard of three pull-ups,” Marine spokesman Capt. Eric Flanagan told CNSNews.com. Fifty-five percent of female recruits tested at the end of boot camp were unable to do three pull-ups (1 percent of male recruits also failed).

Marine officers told NPR off-the-record that, given the three-pull-ups rule, they were afraid of losing “not only new recruits, but also current female Marines who can’t pass the test.”

What the **** does this have to do with "Liberals"?

You daft, bro?

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Just another form of affirmative action. Can any of you hateful liberals justify this?

Female Marines Not Required To Do 1 Pull-Up | CNS News

December 27, 2013 - 2:02 PM

(CNSNews.com) -- Females in the Marine Corps currently are not required to do pull-ups as part of their physical training, and a deadline mandating that they do at least 3 pull-ups by Jan. 1, 2014 as part of their training has been delayed for at least a year, the Corps quietly announced on social media.

Unlike their female counterparts, male Marines have long been required to do at least 3 pullups as part of the Physical Fitness Test (PFT). That's the minimum requirement for males.

Female Marines are required, however, to do a flexed-arm hang from a bar, and their PFT score is calculated based upon how long they can properly hang on the bar. (See video for pull-ups and flexed-arm hang demonstrations.)

Currently, “women aren’t able to make the minimum standard of three pull-ups,” Marine spokesman Capt. Eric Flanagan told CNSNews.com. Fifty-five percent of female recruits tested at the end of boot camp were unable to do three pull-ups (1 percent of male recruits also failed).

Marine officers told NPR off-the-record that, given the three-pull-ups rule, they were afraid of losing “not only new recruits, but also current female Marines who can’t pass the test.”

What the **** does this have to do with "Liberals"?

You daft, bro?

You guys did this ... you hate America and PROVE it by allowing women in the corps.

 

[Vikrant]

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[LeadRoundNose]

Not too sure if giving birth while in a war zone camp really helps the argument for women on the battlefield.

 

[HenryBHough]

Under Regime Obama Marines only function is to hold umbrellas over the heads of foreign dictators. I can't see that any "pull-up" requirement is at all germane. At least not for the time being.

 

[Wacky Quacky]

Are you saying races and genders have different abilities?

How you could get that from my post I will never know. Seriously, am I talking in a different language that's causing people to post drivel in response to everything I say?

Gender is the only exception. Physically, men and women have different abilities. That is not sexism, that is scientific fact. Men's bodies have more testosterone which make them naturally stronger. But, like I posted earlier, I don't think it's enough of a difference to keep women out of combat roles.

Back to your comment on test results, I would like to hear you answer my question. If a math test is failed by one race more than another, is it a racist math test?

Ok so genders have different abilities. Are you implying a race is better than another at math?

It's a question. You're supposed to think about it and answer it.

 

[Iceman]

How you could get that from my post I will never know. Seriously, am I talking in a different language that's causing people to post drivel in response to everything I say?

Gender is the only exception. Physically, men and women have different abilities. That is not sexism, that is scientific fact. Men's bodies have more testosterone which make them naturally stronger. But, like I posted earlier, I don't think it's enough of a difference to keep women out of combat roles.

Back to your comment on test results, I would like to hear you answer my question. If a math test is failed by one race more than another, is it a racist math test?

Ok so genders have different abilities. Are you implying a race is better than another at math?

It's a question. You're supposed to think about it and answer it.

Obviously some races have higher levels of intelligence than others, duh.


"Racist" is a term coined by Jewish communist Leon Trotsky used to attack Ukranians who didn't want to be part of the USSR in the 30s. It is a meaningless term in of itself.

 

[candycorn]

icedman and crackcorn need to breed to show the world what the dumbest human would look like.

Or you can post a picture of yourself and erase all suspense. It'd be fun betting on how few teeth you have.

 

[editec]

Watch the military lower the standards for women. You know they'r egoing to do it to avoid the wrath of MOOCHelle and the rest of the feminists.

Marines: Most Female Recruits Don't Meet New Pullup Standard : NPR

Starting Jan. 1, every woman in the Marines Corps was supposed to meet a new physical standard by performing three pullups. But that has been put off.

The Marine Corps announced it quietly. There was no news conference — just a notice on its social media sites and an item on its own TV show, The Corps Report.

Lance Cpl. Ally Beiswanger explained that the pullup test had been put off until sometime next year, to gather more data and "ensure all female Marines are given the best opportunity to succeed."

So far, female Marines are not succeeding. Fifty-five percent of female recruits tested at the end of boot camp were doing fewer than three pullups; only 1 percent of male recruits failed the test.

The three pullups is already the minimum required for all male Marines. Now the Marine Corps has postponed the plan, and that's raising questions about whether women have the physical strength to handle ground combat, which they'll be allowed to do beginning in 2016.

Marine officers would not talk to NPR on tape. They said they delayed the pullup requirement to avoid losing not only recruits but also current female Marines who can't pass the test.

The Marine Corps has been using it to test upper body strength for men for more than 40 years. And that upper body strength, they say, is necessary to serve in ground combat: to pull yourself out of a canal in Afghanistan, to climb over a mud wall, to carry an ammunition box.​

INTERESTING.

When I was with the 3/1 there were not PULL UP requirements for the Marines.

Must be something new.

Gee one wonders why now, eh?

 

[Katzndogz]

Watch the military lower the standards for women. You know they'r egoing to do it to avoid the wrath of MOOCHelle and the rest of the feminists.

Marines: Most Female Recruits Don't Meet New Pullup Standard : NPR

Starting Jan. 1, every woman in the Marines Corps was supposed to meet a new physical standard by performing three pullups. But that has been put off.

The Marine Corps announced it quietly. There was no news conference — just a notice on its social media sites and an item on its own TV show, The Corps Report.

Lance Cpl. Ally Beiswanger explained that the pullup test had been put off until sometime next year, to gather more data and "ensure all female Marines are given the best opportunity to succeed."

So far, female Marines are not succeeding. Fifty-five percent of female recruits tested at the end of boot camp were doing fewer than three pullups; only 1 percent of male recruits failed the test.

The three pullups is already the minimum required for all male Marines. Now the Marine Corps has postponed the plan, and that's raising questions about whether women have the physical strength to handle ground combat, which they'll be allowed to do beginning in 2016.

Marine officers would not talk to NPR on tape. They said they delayed the pullup requirement to avoid losing not only recruits but also current female Marines who can't pass the test.

The Marine Corps has been using it to test upper body strength for men for more than 40 years. And that upper body strength, they say, is necessary to serve in ground combat: to pull yourself out of a canal in Afghanistan, to climb over a mud wall, to carry an ammunition box.​

INTERESTING.

When I was with the 3/1 there were not PULL UP requirements for the Marines.

Must be something new.

Gee one wonders why now, eh?

The past 40 years is not "now". It's a requirement of the past 40 years.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

[
What the **** does this have to do with "Liberals"?

You daft, bro?

It's you stupid illogical liberals who tell us we have to let women into the military because of equality and then you say we have to have lower physical standards for women because they're inferior!!!!

 

[Edgetho]

I could see letting women into Special Forces. I mean THE Special Forces, not SEALs, Rangers, etc.

Many times, SF has to work with people of both sexes in remote areas, villages and towns. Many times, SF is little more than a "Peace Corps with guns" trying to organize a local resistance to (usually) communist scum or sometimes to Islamic murderers.

SF doesn't go screaming into battle with a knife clenched between their teeth and bloodlust in their hearts.

More sophisticated than that.

As to the physicla part of it? Women just simply aren't the physical equal of men at their peak.

No way. No how. All that would happen is that they would get themselves and some good soldiers killed in a bad situation.

If done intelligently, women can be an asset.

 

[MikeK]

U.S. Army trainers will soon lead an effort to create gender-neutral physical standards for all soldiers as part of a plan to allow women to serve in infantry, Special Forces and other combat arms jobs.
Army Submits Plan to Open Combat Jobs for Women | Military.com


Translation: We will now lower the standards for everyone so that women can qualify the same as the men, who won't have to work as hard as they used to.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time I can honestly say that's not my military and I'm glad I'm out........

This is just one more step in the downward spiral of this once great country....

It's sad.

Sad? It's a goddam shame.

 

[dreolin]

U.S. Army trainers will soon lead an effort to create gender-neutral physical standards for all soldiers as part of a plan to allow women to serve in infantry, Special Forces and other combat arms jobs.
Army Submits Plan to Open Combat Jobs for Women | Military.com


Translation: We will now lower the standards for everyone so that women can qualify the same as the men, who won't have to work as hard as they used to.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time I can honestly say that's not my military and I'm glad I'm out........

This is just one more step in the downward spiral of this once great country....

It's sad.

Sad? It's a goddam shame.

They always made allowances for age on the PT tests. I never took the breaks and always maxed out anyway but I didn't have probs with those who did take the break. I think at 26 they kicked in. So we need to restrict those over 26 y.o. from combat?

And in all my time in the service, in combat and in peace, I never had to do anything that a woman couldn't do, but I have seen plenty of E-6 "combat ready" troops who could hardly breathe.

And this country is still great because we are capable of changing instead of just moanin' and groanin' like some played out old pissants.

Ya know, there was a time, back in your good ol' days, where women couldn't vote either and I thank god for tired and weak women who didn't feel like standing up on a bus in Montgomery, Alabama.

 

[novasteve]

All liberal faggots care abotu is feeling good about themselves.

 

[dreolin]

The minimum height and weight requirement for a male to enlist in the USMC is 4'10" and 91 pounds.

They can hold a combat MOS.

 

[dreolin]

All liberal faggots care abotu is feeling good about themselves.

I can only assume you are speaking from experience as you seem to issue that pronouncement with a degree of authority.

 

[dreolin]

Women aren't as good as doing pull-ups as men.

What's your point?

The onliest thing I can figure is some of these cats have never heard of airmobile and that an M-16 weighs 75 pounds.

Women are just as capable as men to hold a combat MOS and in many cases, more capable at the job.

 

[MikeK]

[...]

Ya know, there was a time, back in your good ol' days, where women couldn't vote either and I thank god for tired and weak women who didn't feel like standing up on a bus in Montgomery, Alabama.

There is a significant difference between voting and exposure to intense combat conditions over sustained periods of time, conditions which women are neither physically nor psychologically adaptable to.

I was never in combat but I was in the Marine Corps during the time (1956 to 1960) when the notion of assigning women to combat line companies was first tested and quickly shown to be impractical in the simplest terms. The women could not endure forced marches nor could they compete with men in any of the physical or psychological stress trials.

The bottom line is political correctness has no place in this issue. While there are occasional exceptions, women in general are not designed by Nature to contend with men in kill-or-be-killed confrontations. And that's what men love about them.