We are headed for Dumbville

[Eman623]

I've heard personal testimony from students, including ivy leaguers, today that confirms that most of them are using AI to do their school work.

It's really crazy.

My daughter says the same thing - but you can't just copy-n-paste what it spits out. You have to rewrite it in your own style and personalize it because teachers run your stuff through AI to check for that. In that respect it seems little different than Cliff Notes.

I don't think I have a problem with this in any case. AI is here and it's not going away. I already use it to help me write software and emails. Our legal dept uses it to help write contracts. AI is a tool and students should learn how to best use it like any other tool.

 

[buttercup]

I think it's by design. The powers-that-shouldn't-be WANT people to rely on AI more and more.... and not use our own minds.

In this video Whitney Webb talks about something called "Cognitive diminishment"..... and it makes sense. If we stop using our mind and our creativity, it diminishes. Just like how not using our physical muscles leads to being physically weaker.

 

[0311]

unless something is done. everyone is a genius with AI. Suggestions?

With Felon47 in Oval Office we are already there.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

everyone cant be in the trades....

The Rulers' Way Produces Unnecessary Skill-Shortages

It should be based on manual ability, as the Eweniversity must be based on mental ability. But only paid training will produce that for us.

 

[MarcATL]

My daughter says the same thing - but you can't just copy-n-paste what it spits out. You have to rewrite it in your own style and personalize it because teachers run your stuff through AI to check for that. In that respect it seems little different than Cliff Notes.

I don't think I have a problem with this in any case. AI is here and it's not going away. I already use it to help me write software and emails. Our legal dept uses it to help write contracts. AI is a tool and students should learn how to best use it like any other tool.

They're in the learning stage though. They shouldn't be using AI at this time.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I was afraid you would say that.

Will it be green?

Soylent Green prevents global warming

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

No that would be too obvious

Their Cause Gets Rid of Its Effects

The Jolly GreenHead Giant both produces global poverty and comes up with the Soylent Green solution to it

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Which explains why so many of these young college students and graduates are so clueless about so much.

Spoiled Valley Girl Bimbo Speech

Including the logical meaning of "clueless," which is not at all the way it's being used.

 

[playtime]

AI creeps the bejesus outa me. the only thing i like about it is the generated interpretations re: music...

 

[0311]

AI creeps the bejesus outa me. the only thing i like about it is the generated interpretations re: music...

One of my favorite Simon Garfunkel songs of all time.

 

[SweetSue92]

I don't think it will help you learn plumbing in trade school.

It won't help a musician either. Perform or you're done--same with the trades.

 

[SweetSue92]

My 18 yo daughter says teachers are using AI to check homework to tell if a student is using AI.

I guess the next step will be to tell the AI to do your homework, but do it in such a way that is doesn't look like AI.

Maybe this is too simplistic but stop allowing phones in school and give old fashioned, paper and pencil tests.

Problem solved.

 

[Eman623]

Maybe this is too simplistic but stop allowing phones in school and give old fashioned, paper and pencil tests.

Problem solved.

Yes, that is too simplistic.

Homework is done outside of classes and schools can't control it if students use phones and laptops there.

 

[Eman623]

They're in the learning stage though. They shouldn't be using AI at this time.

That is somewhat true. I agree kids should learn how to do manual research and writing. But learning how to use AI is also a valuable skill.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Maybe this is too simplistic but stop allowing phones in school and give old fashioned, paper and pencil tests.

Problem solved.

The Failure of Passing

Exams are the problem. Students cram for them and soon forget the material they get credit for learning. Quiz daily instead.

A typical example was when an honors class averaged 92 on its final exam. When they came back from summer vacation, they were surprised by the same test. Their more revealing score on the repeat exam
averaged 65.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That is somewhat true. I agree kids should learn how to do manual research and writing. But learning how to use AI is also a valuable skill.

If It's Artificial, It's Not Real

If AI ever told the truth, the screws holding its skull together would pop out, the skull would flop open, and the programmed lies inside the brain cavity would clop on the floor, hissing TDS as they fizzle out and byte the dust.

 

[martybegan]

unless something is done. everyone is a genius with AI. Suggestions?

Go back to concentrating on live in person testing, with work being shown.

 

[hadit]

We reached dumbville in 2017 and have repeated the stupidity.

What did you do that year that the rest of us did not do? Just for reference, we didn't go to dumbville that year, I think that was just you.

 

[Jarlaxle]

If It's Artificial, It's Not Real

If AI ever told the truth, the screws holding its skull together would pop out, the skull would flop open, and the programmed lies inside the brain cavity would clop on the floor, hissing TDS as they fizzle out and byte the dust.

Are you on drugs?

 

[SweetSue92]

Yes, that is too simplistic.

Homework is done outside of classes and schools can't control it if students use phones and laptops there.

So don't grade homework. This isn't difficult.