Washington Post audio of Trump berating and threatening Georgia Secretary of State for not "finding" votes to change election result. Sedition?

[jknowgood]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

He just pulled a Biden, urkraine style. Nothing to see, right?

You must be ignorant of US foreign policy with regard to Ukraine.. The UN was also on board.

He threatened a government official that he better fire a prosecuter investigating his son. Trump asked them to look into it and got impeached for it.

Liar. The prosecutor he had fired was not actively investigating his son.

The company he ran.

But you said he was investigating Hunter Biden? Your admission you're a flaming idiot is graciously accepted.

A flaming idiot thinks there is nothing wrong with what the whole situation at hand.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

But you can't. They are part of the US. I love it how you guys always put in exceptions. "Oh take out the inner city black on black murders, then look at our murder rate". Well, no. You don't get to pick and choose stats. Facts are facts and stats are stats.

you are right about obesity though....that is definitely one of the underlying things that is killing people with COVID.

NYC is run by Democrats and Cuomo and DeBlasio killed all those people. Facts.

Patients who came from nursing homes had no place else to go on discharge, genius.

Oh and NYC then had homeless druggies stay at 4 star hotels on the taxpayer $$$ maybe they should have place COVID patients there instead? Also maybe they should not have eliminated the need for bail. NYC is a mess. No wonder people are leaving in droves.

Seniors who come out of nursing homes have people to dress, feed, bathe and take them to the toilet. Use your brain.

Not all. Some. Many can take care of themselves. You are making excuses for the executioner, Andrew Cuomo.

 

[surada]

But you can't. They are part of the US. I love it how you guys always put in exceptions. "Oh take out the inner city black on black murders, then look at our murder rate". Well, no. You don't get to pick and choose stats. Facts are facts and stats are stats.

you are right about obesity though....that is definitely one of the underlying things that is killing people with COVID.

NYC is run by Democrats and Cuomo and DeBlasio killed all those people. Facts.

Patients who came from nursing homes had no place else to go on discharge, genius.

Oh and NYC then had homeless druggies stay at 4 star hotels on the taxpayer $$$ maybe they should have place COVID patients there instead? Also maybe they should not have eliminated the need for bail. NYC is a mess. No wonder people are leaving in droves.

Seniors who come out of nursing homes have people to dress, feed, bathe and take them to the toilet. Use your brain.

Not all. Some. Many can take care of themselves. You are making excuses for the executioner, Andrew Cuomo.

Not in nursing homes and assisted living.

 

[Dragonlady]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is talking about sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected governement of the United States of America.

sounds just like your Russian Collusion bullshit

In other words, you think that this kind of behavior is acceptable, yes? If Biden pulled a shit stunt like this, you would want his balls on a platter.

You have to put America's rightwing into the proper perspective. These are the same freaks who defended Trump when he tossed paper towels to flood victims.

And Democrat liberals who cheered when Pelosi ripped up a STOU speech on camera, and held back aid to suffering American's in this pandemic because she didn't want to give a win to Trump.....You fucking hacks have NO STANDING to call anyone anything!

Pelosi didn't "hold back aid". She passed two bills giving more aid to suffering Americans, and Mitch McConnell wouldn't even take them up, much less negotiate with the House on these deals.

As for ripping up Trump's "STOU" speech, well how terrible!!! How many Americans died because of this egrious action? SHE DISRESPECTED TRUMP!!!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!

In other words, how dare we call Trump on his illegal actions, many of which have caused thousands of innocent Americans to die, millions to fall into poverty, and the economy to be destroyed.

Hey, I’m with ya on aid...I think we should be getting more. So does the President btw.
what law did Trump break?

Everything he''s done to "overturn" the results of the election. The Attorney General of Georgia is looking at filing charges today.

 

[postman]

Seniors who come out of nursing homes have people to dress, feed, bathe and take them to the toilet. Use your brain.

Not all. Some. Many can take care of themselves. You are making excuses for the executioner, Andrew Cuomo.

You don't put people in nursing homes because you can't find a hotel for them. These people need trained nursing care in order to survive.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

To dimwit Trumpers I say, here we have Trump telling the Georgia Secretary of state to engage in fraud and overthrow the newly elected government. When will Trump be arrested?

If the Georgia secretary of state finds 11k missing votes, they should be counted.

If the Georgia secretary of state finds 11k missing votes, they should be counted.

The only way they could “find” 11k “missing” votes is to create them.
The vote in GA has been counted three times already, dope. It’s been certified and the state electors have chosen.

Rudy knows election law better than you.

Rudy knows election law better than you.

LOL...
I’m sure at some point that was true. What I posted has nothing at all to do with election law.
It has to do with the election process that has been completed by each state and has found no irregularities.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

But you can't. They are part of the US. I love it how you guys always put in exceptions. "Oh take out the inner city black on black murders, then look at our murder rate". Well, no. You don't get to pick and choose stats. Facts are facts and stats are stats.

you are right about obesity though....that is definitely one of the underlying things that is killing people with COVID.

NYC is run by Democrats and Cuomo and DeBlasio killed all those people. Facts.

Patients who came from nursing homes had no place else to go on discharge, genius.

Oh and NYC then had homeless druggies stay at 4 star hotels on the taxpayer $$$ maybe they should have place COVID patients there instead? Also maybe they should not have eliminated the need for bail. NYC is a mess. No wonder people are leaving in droves.

Seniors who come out of nursing homes have people to dress, feed, bathe and take them to the toilet. Use your brain.

Not all. Some. Many can take care of themselves. You are making excuses for the executioner, Andrew Cuomo.

Not in nursing homes and assisted living.

Bullshit. My grandmother lived in assisted living for 13 years and only in her last year could she not take care of herself and she was 93 then. Most are just fine.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Seniors who come out of nursing homes have people to dress, feed, bathe and take them to the toilet. Use your brain.

Not all. Some. Many can take care of themselves. You are making excuses for the executioner, Andrew Cuomo.

You don't put people in nursing homes because you can't find a hotel for them. These people need trained nursing care in order to survive.

So you put them into facilities where COVID kills them? Got it! No other state did that.

 

[postman]

Rudy knows election law better than you.

Then why hasn't Rudy won a single election case?

 

[postman]

Bullshit. My grandmother lived in assisted living for 13 years and only in her last year could she not take care of herself and she was 93 then. Most are just fine.

Where's Papa? (hint, movie reference)

 

[Hutch Starskey]

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The WP lies. The WP has lied since Trump took office. They are never going to stop lying.

The WP lies. The WP has lied since Trump took office. They are never going to stop lying.

Derp....
The WP didn’t make the recording, dope.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

And there are still twelve Republicans who will have to wear this for the rest of their lives, who are going to stand with Trump over his coup attempt of his, even after they heard him publicly try and commit voter fraud; John Heilemann: Trump has been undone by tape ‘in a way that no other president has’

These twelve will be heroes for stopping the DNC coup.

These twelve will be heroes for stopping the DNC coup

Uff....
12 Senators isn’t enough to stop anything, dope.

 

[Faun]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

america isnt a democracy you stupid fuck,,,

Dumbfuck, Georgia is a democracy and Impeached Trump threatened Georgia's Secretary of State with "vague criminal consequences" to "find" enough votes to overturn the will of Georgia's voters.

Funny how none of you libtards can quote the threat.

LOL

Nah, what's funny is that you're a raging imbecile.

"I think you’re going to find that they are shredding ballots because they have to get rid of the ballots because the ballots are unsigned. The ballots are corrupt, and they’re brand new, and they don’t have seals, and there’s a whole thing with the ballots. But the ballots are corrupt. And you are going to find that they are — which is totally illegal — it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know, what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal, that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that’s a big risk." ~ Impeached Trump​

Cool.

Where is the threat, Dumbass?

"That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer." ~ Impeached Trump

Cool.

Where it the threat by EXONERATED TRUMP?

Dumbfuck, that's a threat of "vague criminal consequences." It's not my problem you lack the required intelligence to comprehend that.

It is?

You have quite the imagination.

It is. Telling someone they're at "risk" of committing a "criminal offense," which could result in incarceration, is absolutely a threat of "vague criminal consequences." But don't fret, I don't expect someone of your vacuity to understand that. Just go resume your utopia of snacking on paint chips dipped in mercury.

Isn’t there a law in GA that states if the challenger comes up with enough votes to overturn, the SOS has to investigate? Seems to me Trump rattled off some 25k votes there....hmmmm

I don't know if there's any such law and I note you posted no such law. Regardless, even if there is, Georgia already investigated all of his claims of fraud and determined they were bullshit and nowhere near enough to overturn their election. You can see for yourself here...

 

[Faun]

impeached for what?????!!!!

Trump knows he won the real vote. That's why Democrats on this board want him impeached.

Trump knows that he is facing criminal and civil jeopardy th e second that he becomes a private citizen . Thyat is why he is so pathetically despaate to cling to power. I am loving the spectical!

He won't face any charges after being pardoned.

Who's going to pardon him - Pence after he quits a day early? Joe Biden?? Himself??? (doubtful legal). But even if he were to get away with pardoning himself, the state of New York is gonna be on his fatass like a cheap suit ;-)

Won‘t it be great to go down the road of imprisoning our political opponents?

That's Trump's idea...

 

[Bobob]

No but highly likely he violated privacy laws by leaking this. All conversations with the president are considered classified unless declassified by POTUS himself.

The GA Sec should be in jail.

Trump should be in jail. He used an unprotected phone which is fair game.

 

[August West]

And there are still twelve Republicans who will have to wear this for the rest of their lives, who are going to stand with Trump over his coup attempt of his, even after they heard him publicly try and commit voter fraud; John Heilemann: Trump has been undone by tape ‘in a way that no other president has’

These twelve will be heroes for stopping the DNC coup.

These twelve will be heroes for stopping the DNC coup

Uff....
12 Senators isn’t enough to stop anything, dope.

There`s no talking sense to the Sedition Caucus. Trump/Putin have these traitors where they want them.

 

[Bobob]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is talking about sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected governement of the United States of America.

sounds just like your Russian Collusion bullshit

In other words, you think that this kind of behavior is acceptable, yes? If Biden pulled a shit stunt like this, you would want his balls on a platter.

You have to put America's rightwing into the proper perspective. These are the same freaks who defended Trump when he tossed paper towels to flood victims.

And Democrat liberals who cheered when Pelosi ripped up a STOU speech on camera, and held back aid to suffering American's in this pandemic because she didn't want to give a win to Trump.....You fucking hacks have NO STANDING to call anyone anything!

Pelosi didn't "hold back aid". She passed two bills giving more aid to suffering Americans, and Mitch McConnell wouldn't even take them up, much less negotiate with the House on these deals.

As for ripping up Trump's "STOU" speech, well how terrible!!! How many Americans died because of this egrious action? SHE DISRESPECTED TRUMP!!!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!

In other words, how dare we call Trump on his illegal actions, many of which have caused thousands of innocent Americans to die, millions to fall into poverty, and the economy to be destroyed.

Hey, I’m with ya on aid...I think we should be getting more. So does the President btw.
what law did Trump break?

Threatening remarks with implied and stated possible repercussions is unlawful.
University of Georgia law professor
“The Georgia code says that anybody who solicits, requests or commands or otherwise attempts to encourage somebody to commit election fraud is guilty of solicitation of election fraud. ‘Soliciting or requesting’ is the key language. The president asked, in no uncertain terms, the secretary of state to invent votes, to create votes that were not there. Not only did he ask for that in terms of just overturning the specific margin that Joe Biden won by, but then said we needed one additional vote to secure victory in Georgia.”

“There’s just no way that if you read the code and the way the code is structured, and then you look at what the president of the United states requested, that he has not violated this law — the spirit of it for sure,” Kreis continued.

 

[Faun]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

The President of the United States has no legal authority over the Georgia Secretary of State.
Therefore, there was no crime, just a request. It's not fraud because nobody was deceived and nobody lost anything. Biden is not yet President and won't be until Jan 20. Many Americans feel the election was fraudulently stolen by Democrats. Finally, if you believe what the New York Slime and Washington Pest tell you, you need a reality check.

Its a crime for anyone to bring pressure or intimidation to an election. Don't even pretend you know more than a lawyer or any respectable news outlet.

Show us that law. Show is where it is illegal for the President to call a Secretary of State and argue with him about the election count. I attended law school for one year and was a Legal Officer in the US Navy for 4 years. They taught us how to do legal research, which is obviously beyond you.

The president is subject to the laws just as everyone else is. And he wasn’t just arguing over the count, he was coercing the SoS to find votes that weren't there.

2016 Georgia Code :: Title 21 - Elections :: Chapter 2 - Elections and Primaries Generally :: Article 15 - Miscellaneous Offenses :: § 21-2-604. Criminal solicitation to commit election fraud; penalties

law.justia.com

(a) (1) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct.

(2) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the second degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a misdemeanor under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage in such conduct.​

 

[Faun]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

The President of the United States has no legal authority over the Georgia Secretary of State.
Therefore, there was no crime, just a request. It's not fraud because nobody was deceived and nobody lost anything. Biden is not yet President and won't be until Jan 20. Many Americans feel the election was fraudulently stolen by Democrats. Finally, if you believe what the New York Slime and Washington Pest tell you, you need a reality check.

Its a crime for anyone to bring pressure or intimidation to an election. Don't even pretend you know more than a lawyer or any respectable news outlet.

Show us that law. Show is where it is illegal for the President to call a Secretary of State and argue with him about the election count. I attended law school for one year and was a Legal Officer in the US Navy for 4 years. They taught us how to do legal research, which is obviously beyond you.

In Georgia, a person who “solicits, requests, commands, importunes or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage” in election fraud." is guilty of a crime:

Georgia Code § 21-2-604 (2019) - Criminal solicitation to ...

2019 Georgia Code :: Title 21 - Elections

Justia Free Databases of US Laws, Codes & Statutes

law.justia.com

...
(a) (1) A person commits the offense of criminal solicitation to commit election fraud in the first degree when, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony under this article, he or she solicits, requests, commands, importunes, or otherwise attempts to cause the other person to engage …

Engage in what? Trump asked the guy to reexamine the votes. That's perfectly legal.
Trump was not in Georgia and is not a resident of Georgia. I doubt Georgia law even applies to him.

Uh, no, Trump asked him to "find" exactly the number of votes needed to overturn the election. Even after it was explained to him they had already reviewed all of the ballots and there were not enough to accommodate him.

And that law applies to anyone, not just someone in Georgia or just to Georgia residents. That's among the most retarded excuses I've heard so far.

 

[Pogo]

I would say that every black person alive in the USA today has been impacted by slavery, even if their families were never slaves.

Of course you would say that, because you are an idiot.

By the way, the only people that should pay them any reparations are Democrats, since they were the ones who ideologically and historically fight for slavery.

How about the confederate states pay it, even though they they're mostly Republican-led states now, since they seceded in their failed attempt to preserve the institution of slavery codified in their Constitution?

Because they are Republican now. Dems were the slave owners. Time for you Dems to own it.

In the 339 years of slavery on this continent and the 300+ years before any "Dems" existed, zero people ever needed a political party to own a slave. The vast majority (as in 99+%) of all slave owners had no political party affiliation at all, mostly because none even EXISTED.