Washington Post audio of Trump berating and threatening Georgia Secretary of State for not "finding" votes to change election result. Sedition?

[Faun]

Trump never flat out said told the guy to illegally change the vote count.

He was very careful in his wording.

Any half decent lawyer meaning not Rudy Giuliani, could easily argue that Donald Trump truly and genuinely believes that there was fraud and was asking the secretary of state of Georgia to find votes for him that were illegally thrown out and add them to the count.




the issue is that he specifically asked only for the exact amount of votes he needs to win by one vote. If he were serious about election fraud he would ask that all illegally thrown out votesvbe counted and all votes that were illegally cast be thrown out.


It would be very hard to convict him because it would be hard to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump doesn't truly hold those beliefs.


Now someone like Ted Cruz if he had done this you could easily convict him because he has publicly stated that he doesn't actually believe the conspiracy theories but Trump has never wavered and so any good lawyer again this means not Rudy Giuliani could argue that he's simply asking for legitimate votes to be found that were illegally thrown out

And of course, Raffensperger said his impression of what he thought Trump was asking of him was to not count thousands of votes because they were cast illegally. He was explaining to Trump they were legal votes.

 

[Leviticus]

Trump never flat out said told the guy to illegally change the vote count.

He was very careful in his wording.

Any half decent lawyer meaning not Rudy Giuliani, could easily argue that Donald Trump truly and genuinely believes that there was fraud and was asking the secretary of state of Georgia to find votes for him that were illegally thrown out and add them to the count.




the issue is that he specifically asked only for the exact amount of votes he needs to win by one vote. If he were serious about election fraud he would ask that all illegally thrown out votesvbe counted and all votes that were illegally cast be thrown out.


It would be very hard to convict him because it would be hard to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump doesn't truly hold those beliefs.


Now someone like Ted Cruz if he had done this you could easily convict him because he has publicly stated that he doesn't actually believe the conspiracy theories but Trump has never wavered and so any good lawyer again this means not Rudy Giuliani could argue that he's simply asking for legitimate votes to be found that were illegally thrown out

And of course, Raffensperger said his impression of what he thought Trump was asking of him was to not count thousands of votes because they were cast illegally. He was explaining to Trump they were legal votes.

The part that could get Trump is the fact that he was also threatening saying that bad things were going to happen then if they didn't find the votes. that could easily be interpreted as a threat to either find the votes by any means necessary or face the consequences. That part sounded more like he was demanding votes be thrown out or vote simply be added.

Especially the part where he suggesting that they can just say they recalculated.

In my opinion Trump was asking for an illegal change to the vote count but I doubt of jury would agree unanimously and convict him

 

[ABikerSailor]

Trump never flat out said told the guy to illegally change the vote count.

He was very careful in his wording.

Any half decent lawyer meaning not Rudy Giuliani, could easily argue that Donald Trump truly and genuinely believes that there was fraud and was asking the secretary of state of Georgia to find votes for him that were illegally thrown out and add them to the count.




the issue is that he specifically asked only for the exact amount of votes he needs to win by one vote. If he were serious about election fraud he would ask that all illegally thrown out votesvbe counted and all votes that were illegally cast be thrown out.


It would be very hard to convict him because it would be hard to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump doesn't truly hold those beliefs.


Now someone like Ted Cruz if he had done this you could easily convict him because he has publicly stated that he doesn't actually believe the conspiracy theories but Trump has never wavered and so any good lawyer again this means not Rudy Giuliani could argue that he's simply asking for legitimate votes to be found that were illegally thrown out

"Legitimate votes to be found and counted"? Sounds like Trump is asking for his supporters to stuff the ballot box for him.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Trump never flat out said told the guy to illegally change the vote count.

He was very careful in his wording.

Any half decent lawyer meaning not Rudy Giuliani, could easily argue that Donald Trump truly and genuinely believes that there was fraud and was asking the secretary of state of Georgia to find votes for him that were illegally thrown out and add them to the count.




the issue is that he specifically asked only for the exact amount of votes he needs to win by one vote. If he were serious about election fraud he would ask that all illegally thrown out votesvbe counted and all votes that were illegally cast be thrown out.


It would be very hard to convict him because it would be hard to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump doesn't truly hold those beliefs.


Now someone like Ted Cruz if he had done this you could easily convict him because he has publicly stated that he doesn't actually believe the conspiracy theories but Trump has never wavered and so any good lawyer again this means not Rudy Giuliani could argue that he's simply asking for legitimate votes to be found that were illegally thrown out

And of course, Raffensperger said his impression of what he thought Trump was asking of him was to not count thousands of votes because they were cast illegally. He was explaining to Trump they were legal votes.

The part that could get Trump is the fact that he was also threatening saying that bad things were going to happen then if they didn't find the votes. that could easily be interpreted as a threat to either find the votes by any means necessary or face the consequences. That part sounded more like he was demanding votes be thrown out or vote simply be added.

Especially the part where he suggesting that they can just say they recalculated.

In my opinion Trump was asking for an illegal change to the vote count but I doubt of jury would agree unanimously and convict him

Nope, Trump wasn't exactly asking for votes to be thrown out (although he did intimate that is what he wanted), he was asking for them to stuff the ballot box with enough votes for him to win. Sadly for Trump, Biden won, and he's gotta face the fact that he's a loser.

Yeah...........................I was tired of Trump's "winning" about a year into his term. Glad that he's no longer gonna be there.

 

[BWK]

You Trump supporters are right, he didn't ask for the state of GA to change votes, he asked for them to "find" them, which means he wanted to stuff the ballot box in his favor. I wonder, did he want dead people, children, or something else to give him votes to win? Sorry, but he still lost.

Even in spite of the idiots that stormed the Capitol and did damage. Nope, sorry, but they weren't ANTIFA, no matter how much you Trumptards wish they were.

so you're telling me a democrat never said "Find the votes"?

the double standards are what got us this jacked up.

when you hear the entire convo - as you insist whenever biden says something - this isn't what he was saying or doing. you just choose to cherry pick and go apeshit over things trump never said as you present.

TRUMP SAID TO DRINK BLEACH!!!!

just stupid shit people need to grow up and out of.

No Democrat said "find the votes."

why would they? they already had the cheat/steal underway. you, another demonRAT retard, buy into their changing AMERICA bullshit. thanx you fucking commie twat

You're a pos liar. You have no proof of cheating or stealing.

 

[Faun]

You Trump supporters are right, he didn't ask for the state of GA to change votes, he asked for them to "find" them, which means he wanted to stuff the ballot box in his favor. I wonder, did he want dead people, children, or something else to give him votes to win? Sorry, but he still lost.

Even in spite of the idiots that stormed the Capitol and did damage. Nope, sorry, but they weren't ANTIFA, no matter how much you Trumptards wish they were.

so you're telling me a democrat never said "Find the votes"?

the double standards are what got us this jacked up.

when you hear the entire convo - as you insist whenever biden says something - this isn't what he was saying or doing. you just choose to cherry pick and go apeshit over things trump never said as you present.

TRUMP SAID TO DRINK BLEACH!!!!

just stupid shit people need to grow up and out of.

No Democrat said "find the votes."

why would they? they already had the cheat/steal underway. you, another demonRAT retard, buy into their changing AMERICA bullshit. thanx you fucking commie twat

You're a pos liar. You have no proof of cheating or stealing.

No widespead fraud at all. That's why every case was laughed out of court. That's why Impeached Trump and his attorneys are being sued for defamation after lying about Dominion. That's why as deplorable as Republicans are, many of them in Congress admit there was no fraud. That's why no one has been arrested for fraud beyond a few people here and there who committed individual cases of fraud. That's why every state in the nation certified their results. That's why Trump's Director of cyber security said this was the most secure election ever. That's why Trump's Director of cyber security was fired. That's why Trump's Attorney General said they found no evidence of widespread fraud to date. That's why Trump's Attorney General was forced to resign. That's why every example widespread voter fraud cited has been debunked. That's why Trump has been caught lying repeatedly about widespread voter fraud. That's why Impeached Trump had to beg and coerce Georgia's Secretary of State to "find" just enough votes for him to win that state. That's why Impeached Trump tried to get Congress to ignore the will of the American people and throw out enough of Biden's electoral votes to bring him under 270.

 

[LaDairis]

Trump trusted Jews.

That was his #1 biggest error as President.

I thought you like Trump?

It is sad that we as Americans have disintegrated into YOU MUST AGREE 100% etc....

I disagree with Trump around 40% of the time.

I disagree with anyone who says Trump is a "bad guy" because he isn't a "bad guy." Low IQ Joe is a bad guy, which is why you love him....

A man who assaults and rapes women, takes babies from their parents, and calls people insulting names "isn't a bad guy", he's a monster. His lies about the election alone, are destructive and he knows it.

A man who lies about 911, votes to send our kids to war over lies for $$$$ from those behind 911, starts as a "middle class" guy in the Senate and has now over half a billion family "assets" he can't explain....


EVERYONE who voted for Low IQ Joe consciously voted for a traitor, a kleptocrat, and a fresh new war over 100% lies against Iran solely to serve Israel....

WE WERE WARNED....

Atlanta Jewish Times publisher resigns over Obama 'assassination' column

Andrew Adler suggested Israel should assassinate U.S. President Barack Obama to counter Iran’s nuclear weapons program.

www.haaretz.com

give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president (Low IQ Joe) to take his place and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.

 

[Mac-7]

The sad thing is, this will probably be swept away by the ongoing tidal wave of incredibly stupid things Trump has said.

Um... is this legal?

The sad thing it that it was a lib lie

AND YOU FELL FOR IT

What do you have to say about it now?

 

[Bush92]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

 

[Correll]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

Is he though? As teh lies you people used to get rid of him are revealed, why should he not come back?

 

[Mac-7]

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

Do you have nothing to say about the lie told by the Washington Post?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

Is he though? As teh lies you people used to get rid of him are revealed, why should he not come back?

Let him come on back.

 

[Bush92]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

Democrats stole the election. It was in the bag. That's why Biden never campaigned. He knew mail-in ballots fraud was coming. Senile turd spoke at two drive-in's theaters in Pennsylvania. Trump drew thousands to his events and got more votes than any incumbent in history...and lost? My ass.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

Do you have nothing to say about the lie told by the Washington Post?

Why should I, you haven't had a damn thing about all the lies Trump has spewed the last 4yrs.

 

[Bush92]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

Is he though? As teh lies you people used to get rid of him are revealed, why should he not come back?

Let him come on back.

Revenge Tour 2024.

 

[Bush92]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

Yep. President Harris.

 

[Care4all]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

Which states of contention, had ballot harvesting?

 

[Mac-7]

Why should I, you haven't had a damn thing about all the lies Trump has spewed the last 4yrs.

Since you dont care about lib lies that means you dont care about the truth

 

[Superbadbrutha]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

Nope. Not when Democrats are stealing elections with vote harvesting.

Trump lost get over it, we have new president now. Just come to grips with the fact that Trump is a one and done.

Democrats stole the election. It was in the bag.

That racist arrogance is just the reason he lost.

That's why Biden never campaigned. He knew mail-in ballots fraud was coming. Senile turd spoke at two drive-in's theaters in Pennsylvania. Trump drew thousands to his events and got more votes than any incumbent in history...and lost? My ass.

Trump drew thousands of morons to come out and cheer and act a fool, the only rally that matters is on Election Day.