Was this the plan all along.

[Winston]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/07/trump-trade-supreme-court-refunds-bessent.html

I have participated in multiple threads about the tariffs. Who pays them, do corporations pass them on, how much does each American household pay, will it impact job creation, all the good stuff. But I got to admit, I am thinking, this was the plan all along.

Yes, the importer pays the tariff. It is paid at the point of entry. And yes, companies pass the cost of that tariff to the consumer. Sure, they try to mitigate that cost, but they have to pass it on. Who else is going to absorb that cost, the shareholders? The importing company? Hell no, not going to happen.

The SCOTUS is dominated by members of the Federalist Society. Recently, Trump himself has expressed regrets for giving them so much power. So, the SCOTUS agrees with the Appellate court, Trump's tariffs are unconstitutional, and then the Treasury department strokes refund checks to all the corporations and companies that paid those tariffs. Where does that leave the consumer? In the end, we paid the bulk of the tariffs, what do we get? Not a damn thing. Those refund checks go straight to the bottom line of the corporations and companies that paid them. They passed the cost on. I mean maybe it is time to go long on the market. Walmart stock is looking pretty bullish right now.

So, the Treasury doesn't get jackshit. Nothing goes toward the deficit in regards to this tariff revenue, but the consumers, you and I, we got fucked. We get nothing back, and make no mistake, the price increases these tariffs have initiated, they are not going away. I mean from the corporations standpoint, it was a damn genius move. A big free increase in income, higher margins, I mean this shit is starting to piss me off. I think that was the plan all along. You Trumpnuts, you allowed this to happen. Wake up.

 

[knuckles]

Country Collects Tariffs​

Yes, countries collect tariffs as a source of government revenue. Tariffs are taxes imposed on goods imported from other countries, and the revenue generated from these taxes goes into the government's general fund. In the United States, for example, tariffs contributed $77 billion in 2024, accounting for 1.6% of federal revenue. While tariffs historically played a larger role in funding government operations—accounting for over 90% of federal revenue from 1790 to 1860—they now represent a smaller share due to the growth of other tax revenues like income and payroll taxes.

Although modern developed economies use tariffs more for policy and protectionist goals than as a primary revenue source, they still generate significant income. The U.S. government, for instance, collected nearly $30 billion in tariff revenue in July 2025 alone, a substantial increase compared to previous years. This revenue helps reduce the budget deficit by decreasing the need for government borrowing, even if it does not fully cover the deficit.

Tariff revenue is collected by customs authorities at the border and deposited into the national treasury, where it is used to fund general government operations. However, economists note that while tariffs raise revenue, they can also lead to higher consumer prices and economic inefficiencies, potentially offsetting some of the fiscal benefits.
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Trump’s tariffs are bringing in tens of billions of dollars a month. What’s the government doing with all that money? | CNN Business

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[IM2]

The tariffs collected will not be enough to erase any debt or deficit.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/07/trump-trade-supreme-court-refunds-bessent.html

I have participated in multiple threads about the tariffs. Who pays them, do corporations pass them on, how much does each American household pay, will it impact job creation, all the good stuff. But I got to admit, I am thinking, this was the plan all along.

Yes, the importer pays the tariff. It is paid at the point of entry. And yes, companies pass the cost of that tariff to the consumer. Sure, they try to mitigate that cost, but they have to pass it on. Who else is going to absorb that cost, the shareholders? The importing company? Hell no, not going to happen.

The SCOTUS is dominated by members of the Federalist Society. Recently, Trump himself has expressed regrets for giving them so much power. So, the SCOTUS agrees with the Appellate court, Trump's tariffs are unconstitutional, and then the Treasury department strokes refund checks to all the corporations and companies that paid those tariffs. Where does that leave the consumer? In the end, we paid the bulk of the tariffs, what do we get? Not a damn thing. Those refund checks go straight to the bottom line of the corporations and companies that paid them. They passed the cost on. I mean maybe it is time to go long on the market. Walmart stock is looking pretty bullish right now.

So, the Treasury doesn't get jackshit. Nothing goes toward the deficit in regards to this tariff revenue, but the consumers, you and I, we got fucked. We get nothing back, and make no mistake, the price increases these tariffs have initiated, they are not going away. I mean from the corporations standpoint, it was a damn genius move. A big free increase in income, higher margins, I mean this shit is starting to piss me off. I think that was the plan all along. You Trumpnuts, you allowed this to happen. Wake up.

Yes, the importer pays the tariff. It is paid at the point of entry. And yes, companies pass the cost of that tariff to the consumer. Sure, they try to mitigate that cost, but they have to pass it on. Who else is going to absorb that cost, the shareholders?

It depends. Are there domestic producers? How elastic is the demand?
What was the old profit margin?

 

[petro]

Maybe Americans just need to buy less trivial shit.
Isn't that what liberals want?
Less consumerism that puts pollutants and micro plastics into our landfills?

 

[Hafar1014]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/07/trump-trade-supreme-court-refunds-bessent.html

I have participated in multiple threads about the tariffs. Who pays them, do corporations pass them on, how much does each American household pay, will it impact job creation, all the good stuff. But I got to admit, I am thinking, this was the plan all along.

Yes, the importer pays the tariff. It is paid at the point of entry. And yes, companies pass the cost of that tariff to the consumer. Sure, they try to mitigate that cost, but they have to pass it on. Who else is going to absorb that cost, the shareholders? The importing company? Hell no, not going to happen.

The SCOTUS is dominated by members of the Federalist Society. Recently, Trump himself has expressed regrets for giving them so much power. So, the SCOTUS agrees with the Appellate court, Trump's tariffs are unconstitutional, and then the Treasury department strokes refund checks to all the corporations and companies that paid those tariffs. Where does that leave the consumer? In the end, we paid the bulk of the tariffs, what do we get? Not a damn thing. Those refund checks go straight to the bottom line of the corporations and companies that paid them. They passed the cost on. I mean maybe it is time to go long on the market. Walmart stock is looking pretty bullish right now.

So, the Treasury doesn't get jackshit. Nothing goes toward the deficit in regards to this tariff revenue, but the consumers, you and I, we got fucked. We get nothing back, and make no mistake, the price increases these tariffs have initiated, they are not going away. I mean from the corporations standpoint, it was a damn genius move. A big free increase in income, higher margins, I mean this shit is starting to piss me off. I think that was the plan all along. You Trumpnuts, you allowed this to happen. Wake up.

A seller and manufacturer must sell or go broke. As a consumer I dont have to buy. That gives me leverage. When I chose not to pay a high price the price comes down. Thats why inflation i stable after 8 months of tariffs in fact many prices have gone down. Wages are up taxes cut so we are way ahead of any small tariff increases. China has devalued its money to offset the tariffs lowering the cost of all their exports.

Tariffs are going to bring in 1 trillion a year. The deficit is 1.6 trillion. Its paid off in 2 years.

Did you complain about Bidens 9% inflation and high gas costs?

 

[sartre play]

A seller and manufacturer must sell or go broke. As a consumer I dont have to buy. That gives me leverage. When I chose not to pay a high price the price comes down. Thats why inflation i stable after 8 months of tariffs in fact many prices have gone down. Wages are up taxes cut so we are way ahead of any small tariff increases. China has devalued its money to offset the tariffs lowering the cost of all their exports.

Tariffs are going to bring in 1 trillion a year. The deficit is 1.6 trillion. Its paid off in 2 years.

Did you complain about Bidens 9% inflation and high gas costs?

Complain, & we do get to do that,
Honest answers? Are we getting any of that?

 

[Independent thinker]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/07/trump-trade-supreme-court-refunds-bessent.html

I have participated in multiple threads about the tariffs. Who pays them, do corporations pass them on, how much does each American household pay, will it impact job creation, all the good stuff. But I got to admit, I am thinking, this was the plan all along.

Yes, the importer pays the tariff. It is paid at the point of entry. And yes, companies pass the cost of that tariff to the consumer. Sure, they try to mitigate that cost, but they have to pass it on. Who else is going to absorb that cost, the shareholders? The importing company? Hell no, not going to happen.

The SCOTUS is dominated by members of the Federalist Society. Recently, Trump himself has expressed regrets for giving them so much power. So, the SCOTUS agrees with the Appellate court, Trump's tariffs are unconstitutional, and then the Treasury department strokes refund checks to all the corporations and companies that paid those tariffs. Where does that leave the consumer? In the end, we paid the bulk of the tariffs, what do we get? Not a damn thing. Those refund checks go straight to the bottom line of the corporations and companies that paid them. They passed the cost on. I mean maybe it is time to go long on the market. Walmart stock is looking pretty bullish right now.

So, the Treasury doesn't get jackshit. Nothing goes toward the deficit in regards to this tariff revenue, but the consumers, you and I, we got fucked. We get nothing back, and make no mistake, the price increases these tariffs have initiated, they are not going away. I mean from the corporations standpoint, it was a damn genius move. A big free increase in income, higher margins, I mean this shit is starting to piss me off. I think that was the plan all along. You Trumpnuts, you allowed this to happen. Wake up.

Well, since inflation really hasn't risen more than a miniscule amount, consumers aren't paying any tariffs.

 

[Winston]

A seller and manufacturer must sell or go broke. As a consumer I dont have to buy. That gives me leverage. When I chose not to pay a high price the price comes down. Thats why inflation i stable after 8 months of tariffs in fact many prices have gone down. Wages are up taxes cut so we are way ahead of any small tariff increases. China has devalued its money to offset the tariffs lowering the cost of all their exports.

Tariffs are going to bring in 1 trillion a year. The deficit is 1.6 trillion. Its paid off in 2 years.

Did you complain about Bidens 9% inflation and high gas costs?

You really are clueless aren't you. Do you even know the difference between the deficit and the debt? "The deficit is paid off in two years. I mean you seriously think about that statement for a minute.

But your numbers are not even close to reality. Estimates range from 2.9 trillion to as high as 4.5 trillion, OVER TEN ******* YEARS. Even at the high end, that barely covers the cost of the Big Beautiful Bill to the debt.

And the Chinese are devaluing their currency? Where the hell do you get this stuff.

China’s yuan could strengthen to 7 per US dollar as Fed sends dovish signals

The Chinese currency is already rising against the US dollar and will receive another boost if the Federal Reserve cuts interest rates.

www.scmp.com

I suspect you are fabricating this shit out of whole cloth. Completely made up. And from that ignorant statement, "paid off in two years", you are clearly way out of your element.

 

[Winston]

Well, since inflation really hasn't risen more than a miniscule amount, consumers aren't paying any tariffs.

History shows tariffs lead to lasting economic harm, such as lower production and incomes. Data from 151 countries from 1963 through 2014 shows higher tariffs reduce output and productivity, increase unemployment, and worsen inequality. Studies of US tariffs in 2018-2019 confirm they failed to boost employment and instead harmed manufacturing due to rising input costs and foreign retaliation.

Time (or Buying American) Won't Erase the Economic Harm of Higher Tariffs

Contrary to the president’s promises, the tariffs will cause short-term pain and long-term pain, no matter the ways people and businesses change their behavior.

taxfoundation.org

 

[Hafar1014]

You really are clueless aren't you. Do you even know the difference between the deficit and the debt? "The deficit is paid off in two years. I mean you seriously think about that statement for a minute.

But your numbers are not even close to reality. Estimates range from 2.9 trillion to as high as 4.5 trillion, OVER TEN ******* YEARS. Even at the high end, that barely covers the cost of the Big Beautiful Bill to the debt.

And the Chinese are devaluing their currency? Where the hell do you get this stuff.

China’s yuan could strengthen to 7 per US dollar as Fed sends dovish signals

The Chinese currency is already rising against the US dollar and will receive another boost if the Federal Reserve cuts interest rates.

www.scmp.com

I suspect you are fabricating this shit out of whole cloth. Completely made up. And from that ignorant statement, "paid off in two years", you are clearly way out of your element.

The deficit is 1.6 trillion today. Tariffs are on track to bring in 1 trillion a year. Thats 4 trillion in four years. Do you think thats enough. GDP will increase and tax revenues will increase and spending is cut all the time.

China used this weapon successfully in Trump's first term, allowing the Yuan to fall 10 percent versus the Dollar, which was close to a full offset to US tariffs imposed at the time (the US tariffed half of all Chinese imports at 25 percent in 2018, pushing its average tariff rate up 12.5 percent).May 16, 2025 Google

https://www.reuters.com/markets/currencies/yuan-falls-2007-lows-us-tariffs-china-kick-2025-04-09/

 

[whitehall]

The rest of the world has been shitting on Uncle Sam since WW2 with unfair trade practices. Every administration knew about it and either went along with it or whined about it for a while. Trump is the first president in modern history to try to fix the problem. So far it's working but the left would rather whine about it. Trump pushed through the biggest tax break in history but the angry hypocrite left and their minions in the media would rather dig up obscure cases or make them up to pretend that Americans are suffering.

 

[Winston]

In light of the recent SCOTUS case ruling on tariffs thought I would just bring this thread back to life.