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Was the Columbus, OH., police officer justified shooting the knife wielding girl? (poll)

Do you support the police officer shooting the knife wielding girl protecting the unarmed girl?

  • Yes, the shooting was justified.

    Votes: 111 94.1%
  • No, I'll explain in my post

    Votes: 7 5.9%

  • Total voters
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Rigby5

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And the girl shot was the victim being attacked by the gang,
That's not what happened when LE arrived. There were no physical attacks going on when they rolled up.
I beg to differ. As soon as they got out of the police car the gal with the knife knocked another girl down and then went after the girl wearing pink. Watch the videos again.

Wrong.
That is just the tail end of the video.
Watch the whole thing.
The knife weilder was the innocent victim who actually lived there, trying to defend herself from a mob.
The girl with the knife in the air going for the girl in pink's neck was justifiably shot.
The girl with the knife is the murderer, the girl in pink's life was saved.
The cop is a hero.

Wrong.
We see a wind up to the right for a swing that then have to be horizontal to the left.
And with the overhand grip, it would have been impossible to reach as high as the neck.

The girl in pink was part of the gang of attackers who did not live there and had no right of defense in their attack on the M'Kia. They were deliberately trespassing.
 

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And the girl shot was the victim being attacked by the gang,
That's not what happened when LE arrived. There were no physical attacks going on when they rolled up.
I beg to differ. As soon as they got out of the police car the gal with the knife knocked another girl down and then went after the girl wearing pink. Watch the videos again.

Don't believe your eyes, use a PROG-head instead.

So the knife wielder pushed one attacker down first in the video.
She had the knife then.
How come the woman knocked down was not cut?
The knife wielder lived there?
Did the other 2 women live there?
No, they were attackers from elsewhere.
They all lived there. This was a foster family. They got into a fight over housekeeping. No one was from elsewhere.
 

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And the girl shot was the victim being attacked by the gang,
That's not what happened when LE arrived. There were no physical attacks going on when they rolled up.
I beg to differ. As soon as they got out of the police car the gal with the knife knocked another girl down and then went after the girl wearing pink. Watch the videos again.

She was getting close to her head area with the knife when the police shoots her to stop it.

How can you miss the obvious Rigby5?

Silly.
It was on over hand grip, swinging side to side.
That would be impossible to reach the head area, and she never got close.

The only way a knife attack could be deadly is un underhand grip, a direct lunge below the ribcage, pointed upward.
Nothing else really had any chance of being deadly.
An the knife wielder never looked at all like she was intending any real harm.
It was all theatrics.
She could easily have made contact, but never actually tried.
Stop posting nonsense. Here is a photo showing the murder in-progress, until the cop stopped her.
View attachment 483123

Wrong.
The sharp edge of the knife is to the right.
If this swing to the left tried to contact the neck, it would have had to have been with dull backside of the blade.
This is a side ways swring.
Nothing remotely deadly appearing at all.

And only M'Kia lived there and had the right of defense.
The girl in pink is one of the trespassing attackers.
 

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This was a child and would have been frozen into a contracted ball by the loud noise of a close by gunshot into the ground.

Stop trying to pretend like this girl was a little kid. Last I knew a "child" does not try to stab someone with a knife while yelling out, “I'm gonna stab the fuck out of you, bitch,”
 

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And the girl shot was the victim being attacked by the gang,
That's not what happened when LE arrived. There were no physical attacks going on when they rolled up.
I beg to differ. As soon as they got out of the police car the gal with the knife knocked another girl down and then went after the girl wearing pink. Watch the videos again.

Wrong.
That is just the tail end of the video.
Watch the whole thing.
The knife weilder was the innocent victim who actually lived there, trying to defend herself from a mob.
The girl with the knife in the air going for the girl in pink's neck was justifiably shot.
The girl with the knife is the murderer, the girl in pink's life was saved.
The cop is a hero.

Wrong.
We see a wind up to the right for a swing that then have to be horizontal to the left.
And with the overhand grip, it would have been impossible to reach as high as the neck.

The girl in pink was part of the gang of attackers who did not live there and had no right of defense in their attack on the M'Kia. They were deliberately trespassing.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA, you being truly stupid here.

Go get a similar knife from your kitchen, and make a similar swing she was making, it would be EASY to get her in the chest, neck and face area.

I even had my 5' 2" tall daughter try it, she reached me easily in the upper chest area.

Stop making a fool of yourself!
 

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And the girl shot was the victim being attacked by the gang,
That's not what happened when LE arrived. There were no physical attacks going on when they rolled up.
I beg to differ. As soon as they got out of the police car the gal with the knife knocked another girl down and then went after the girl wearing pink. Watch the videos again.

She was getting close to her head area with the knife when the police shoots her to stop it.

How can you miss the obvious Rigby5?

Silly.
It was on over hand grip, swinging side to side.
That would be impossible to reach the head area, and she never got close.

The only way a knife attack could be deadly is un underhand grip, a direct lunge below the ribcage, pointed upward.
Nothing else really had any chance of being deadly.
An the knife wielder never looked at all like she was intending any real harm.
It was all theatrics.
She could easily have made contact, but never actually tried.
Stop posting nonsense. Here is a photo showing the murder in-progress, until the cop stopped her.
View attachment 483123

Wrong.
The sharp edge of the knife is to the right.
If this swing to the left tried to contact the neck, it would have had to have been with dull backside of the blade.
This is a side ways swring.
Nothing remotely deadly appearing at all.

And only M'Kia lived there and had the right of defense.
The girl in pink is one of the trespassing attackers.

The PROG said the police should have observed how the knife was being held before she stabbed the other woman :abgg2q.jpg:
 

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IMHO there is no justification for the police to allow anyone to murder an unarmed person.
The girl with the knife is attempting to murder an unarmed girl, totally unacceptable.
Anyone who blames the cop for anything other than doing his job "protecting" the unarmed girl is a racist gaslighting POS.

View attachment 482782

The Biden admin just can't stop blaming cops instead of blaming criminals!? The GOP has lots of ammo for 2022 and 2024.
On the other hand there are those that refuse to blame the cops no matter what.

I dont think the cop had much choice, not when someone was trying to knife another person and it was happening so fast. Sad all around.
 

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And the girl shot was the victim being attacked by the gang,
That's not what happened when LE arrived. There were no physical attacks going on when they rolled up.
I beg to differ. As soon as they got out of the police car the gal with the knife knocked another girl down and then went after the girl wearing pink. Watch the videos again.

Don't believe your eyes, use a PROG-head instead.

So the knife wielder pushed one attacker down first in the video.
She had the knife then.
How come the woman knocked down was not cut?
The knife wielder lived there?
Did the other 2 women live there?
No, they were attackers from elsewhere.
They all lived there. This was a foster family. They got into a fight over housekeeping. No one was from elsewhere.

Correct.
But the knife wielder was smallest and the other started it.
It is not at all likely there was any real risk until the cop fired 4 .40S&W hollow points into her.
A hollow point is designed to expand into a small buzz saw that saws into the body from the rifling spin.
That was the only deadly intent anyone actually saw.
The knife swings were all so awkward as obviously only be theatrics.
There was not even a single drop of blood from the knife, even though they certainly had made close personal contact.
 

Rigby5

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And the girl shot was the victim being attacked by the gang,
That's not what happened when LE arrived. There were no physical attacks going on when they rolled up.
I beg to differ. As soon as they got out of the police car the gal with the knife knocked another girl down and then went after the girl wearing pink. Watch the videos again.

She was getting close to her head area with the knife when the police shoots her to stop it.

How can you miss the obvious Rigby5?

Silly.
It was on over hand grip, swinging side to side.
That would be impossible to reach the head area, and she never got close.

The only way a knife attack could be deadly is un underhand grip, a direct lunge below the ribcage, pointed upward.
Nothing else really had any chance of being deadly.
An the knife wielder never looked at all like she was intending any real harm.
It was all theatrics.
She could easily have made contact, but never actually tried.
Stop posting nonsense. Here is a photo showing the murder in-progress, until the cop stopped her.
View attachment 483123

Wrong.
The sharp edge of the knife is to the right.
If this swing to the left tried to contact the neck, it would have had to have been with dull backside of the blade.
This is a side ways swring.
Nothing remotely deadly appearing at all.

And only M'Kia lived there and had the right of defense.
The girl in pink is one of the trespassing attackers.

The PROG said the police should have observed how the knife was being held before she stabbed the other woman :abgg2q.jpg:

It is obvious if there would have been contact from the knife, it would have been a slash, not stab.
And yes, the pistol is so much more deadly, that one should differentiate carefully.
 

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And the girl shot was the victim being attacked by the gang,
That's not what happened when LE arrived. There were no physical attacks going on when they rolled up.
I beg to differ. As soon as they got out of the police car the gal with the knife knocked another girl down and then went after the girl wearing pink. Watch the videos again.

Don't believe your eyes, use a PROG-head instead.

So the knife wielder pushed one attacker down first in the video.
She had the knife then.
How come the woman knocked down was not cut?
The knife wielder lived there?
Did the other 2 women live there?
No, they were attackers from elsewhere.
They all lived there. This was a foster family. They got into a fight over housekeeping. No one was from elsewhere.

Correct.
But the knife wielder was smallest and the other started it.
It is not at all likely there was any real risk until the cop fired 4 .40S&W hollow points into her.
A hollow point is designed to expand into a small buzz saw that saws into the body from the rifling spin.
That was the only deadly intent anyone actually saw.
The knife swings were all so awkward as obviously only be theatrics.
There was not even a single drop of blood from the knife, even though they certainly had made close personal contact.
The knife wielder was the SMALLEST! Get your eyes examined. That ass alone was100 pounds. This was a good shoot no matter how many stories you want to fabricate.
 

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IMHO there is no justification for the police to allow anyone to murder an unarmed person.
The girl with the knife is attempting to murder an unarmed girl, totally unacceptable.
Anyone who blames the cop for anything other than doing his job "protecting" the unarmed girl is a racist gaslighting POS.

View attachment 482782

The Biden admin just can't stop blaming cops instead of blaming criminals!? The GOP has lots of ammo for 2022 and 2024.
On the other hand there are those that refuse to blame the cops no matter what.

I dont think the cop had much choice, not when someone was trying to knife another person and it was happening so fast. Sad all around.

Other choices.
1. fire a warning shot.
2. shoot her only once instead of 4 times.
3. Not load your pistol with .40S&W hollow points, that are essentially impossible for anyone to survive.
That ammunition is against the Geneva Conventions, but yet police use them? Makes no sense.
 

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Maybe I can bring this conversation back on track again for Americans. Even Coyote who is usually pretty rational is getting off the message that needs to be understood.

Police action to a potential crime scene that ends in death is police failure.

It's also a failure of the system. The responses to this question is indicating that the people have no will to prevent the deaths by police.

This could be isolated tot the raging extremism, hate, and racism of this board? Or it could be representative of a very dysfunctional country, due to a complete culture of death through almost continuous wars.

Or some other factor?
 

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And the girl shot was the victim being attacked by the gang,
That's not what happened when LE arrived. There were no physical attacks going on when they rolled up.
I beg to differ. As soon as they got out of the police car the gal with the knife knocked another girl down and then went after the girl wearing pink. Watch the videos again.

She was getting close to her head area with the knife when the police shoots her to stop it.

How can you miss the obvious Rigby5?

Silly.
It was on over hand grip, swinging side to side.
That would be impossible to reach the head area, and she never got close.

The only way a knife attack could be deadly is un underhand grip, a direct lunge below the ribcage, pointed upward.
Nothing else really had any chance of being deadly.
An the knife wielder never looked at all like she was intending any real harm.
It was all theatrics.
She could easily have made contact, but never actually tried.
Stop posting nonsense. Here is a photo showing the murder in-progress, until the cop stopped her.
View attachment 483123

Wrong.
The sharp edge of the knife is to the right.
If this swing to the left tried to contact the neck, it would have had to have been with dull backside of the blade.
This is a side ways swring.
Nothing remotely deadly appearing at all.

And only M'Kia lived there and had the right of defense.
The girl in pink is one of the trespassing attackers.

You are suggesting that casual non threatening unarmed "trespasser" carrying a cat in her arms should be slashed?

Really are you on drugs today? your tortured rationalizations have gotten stupider by the thread page.

It is EASY to stab anyone who is trapped by a car, you must never have handled a knife in your life because you are trying the impossible in saying knife held the way that girl help can't stab anyone.

:cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:
 

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IMHO there is no justification for the police to allow anyone to murder an unarmed person.
The girl with the knife is attempting to murder an unarmed girl, totally unacceptable.
Anyone who blames the cop for anything other than doing his job "protecting" the unarmed girl is a racist gaslighting POS.

View attachment 482782

The Biden admin just can't stop blaming cops instead of blaming criminals!? The GOP has lots of ammo for 2022 and 2024.
On the other hand there are those that refuse to blame the cops no matter what.

I dont think the cop had much choice, not when someone was trying to knife another person and it was happening so fast. Sad all around.

Other choices.
1. fire a warning shot.
2. shoot her only once instead of 4 times.
3. Not load your pistol with .40S&W hollow points, that are essentially impossible for anyone to survive.
That ammunition is against the Geneva Conventions, but yet police use them? Makes no sense.
The police are required to use hollow points. Where would a warning shot be fired, into the air? That is illegal in every state. Stop pretending that bullets never come down.
 

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And the girl shot was the victim being attacked by the gang,
That's not what happened when LE arrived. There were no physical attacks going on when they rolled up.
I beg to differ. As soon as they got out of the police car the gal with the knife knocked another girl down and then went after the girl wearing pink. Watch the videos again.

Don't believe your eyes, use a PROG-head instead.

So the knife wielder pushed one attacker down first in the video.
She had the knife then.
How come the woman knocked down was not cut?
The knife wielder lived there?
Did the other 2 women live there?
No, they were attackers from elsewhere.
They all lived there. This was a foster family. They got into a fight over housekeeping. No one was from elsewhere.

Correct.
But the knife wielder was smallest and the other started it.
It is not at all likely there was any real risk until the cop fired 4 .40S&W hollow points into her.
A hollow point is designed to expand into a small buzz saw that saws into the body from the rifling spin.
That was the only deadly intent anyone actually saw.
The knife swings were all so awkward as obviously only be theatrics.
There was not even a single drop of blood from the knife, even though they certainly had made close personal contact.
A police department in a deep blue city must all go on strike for a few days. By doing that we will put your theory to test about if the police are needed. There are many things I could agree with you that can be changed. Their self preservation is a right. Keeping other safe from a perp is a core element of their jobs. This is not an easy thing. We seem to more an more becoming like a dystopian apocalypse civilization in certain areas where the intellect has been lowered to the point where people are fighting to the death for obscure reasons and the referees that come on in to control it are to intrusive as the complaining residents seem to want the crummy way of living.
 

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And the girl shot was the victim being attacked by the gang,
That's not what happened when LE arrived. There were no physical attacks going on when they rolled up.
I beg to differ. As soon as they got out of the police car the gal with the knife knocked another girl down and then went after the girl wearing pink. Watch the videos again.

Don't believe your eyes, use a PROG-head instead.

So the knife wielder pushed one attacker down first in the video.
She had the knife then.
How come the woman knocked down was not cut?
The knife wielder lived there?
Did the other 2 women live there?
No, they were attackers from elsewhere.
They all lived there. This was a foster family. They got into a fight over housekeeping. No one was from elsewhere.

Correct.
But the knife wielder was smallest and the other started it.
It is not at all likely there was any real risk until the cop fired 4 .40S&W hollow points into her.
A hollow point is designed to expand into a small buzz saw that saws into the body from the rifling spin.
That was the only deadly intent anyone actually saw.
The knife swings were all so awkward as obviously only be theatrics.
There was not even a single drop of blood from the knife, even though they certainly had made close personal contact.

You hear that? New rules for cops.

A. The cops must find out who started it before a person drills a knife into another in the street.

B. If the person holding the knife is smaller than their opponent, the police must take that into account before the person drills a knife into another in the street.

C.. It doesn't matter that the person being stabbed does not have a weapon if they're bigger.

D. There was no risk the knife would have harmed anyone, this was the police force's fault the knife was a knife and she really didn't mean it.

E. She was only pretending to draw a knife toward the other's neck or torso. Police need to ask if they intend to harm another person or if it's just for posture.

F. There was no blood. Police must look for blood before they act as a person swings a knife at another.

So here's how it works.......

Cops show up. They see a girl ready to slam a knife into another on the street, but how do they know she actually will? First they must do their forensics in search for blood spatter. They'll need to put those fighting onto a scale to judge who has a physical advantage, and when that's done they quiz the person who is swinging a weapon if they really mean it.
 
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The police should abandon these cities. It's time for people to police themselves. A mob of neighbors could have overpowered the fat girl,
 

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And the girl shot was the victim being attacked by the gang,
That's not what happened when LE arrived. There were no physical attacks going on when they rolled up.
I beg to differ. As soon as they got out of the police car the gal with the knife knocked another girl down and then went after the girl wearing pink. Watch the videos again.

Wrong.
That is just the tail end of the video.
Watch the whole thing.
The knife weilder was the innocent victim who actually lived there, trying to defend herself from a mob.
The girl with the knife in the air going for the girl in pink's neck was justifiably shot.
The girl with the knife is the murderer, the girl in pink's life was saved.
The cop is a hero.

The girl with the knife is not a murderer...because she did not murder anyone. The cop did his job, it was a justified shoot and unfortunately someone lost their life.
 

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How was the girl with the knife raised?

she obviously came from a really crazy environment
 

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Amost certainly NO.

A more proficient police officer would have been able to remedy the situation so that it didn't result in death.

Death was the outcome and that can never be seen as a successful handling of the situation.

Once again it simply boils down to bad policing that's due to a lack of police concern for black lives.

It would be a near certainty that had the knife wielder been a white child and the intended victim a black child, the outcome would have been different and more desirable.

Americans can't understand this and so the fight to reform their police will be long, which will most likely result in police pushing the envelope on their right to kill to even greater heights.






Oh? you must be speaking of Superman, the Man of Steel no doubt could have blitzed forward, stopped the knife thrust with his hands of steel, and then calmly lifted the attacking girl up and flown her away to the North pole to cool off.

Normal human beings however, don't have that option.
Police action resulting in death is pretty obviously your accepted priority billie.
I'm here to point that out and leave no ambiguity on the question.

The more you bark off your ignorant cakehole, the more fuel for your fires!
Are you trying to argue that cops shouldn't be able to kill violent criminals in order to protect themselves and innocent people? So delusional it sounds communist.

my question to cyberspace : What would have been
the response on the street if the cop had just LET THE
KNIFE ATTACK HAPPEN? anyone?
First of all, are you crying out for help? Or are you delighting in the high incident of death by police?

Do you want an answer or do you just want for fuel to fire your rage?

Today I had dozens of Americans quoting me on just this thread and so underneath all the rage and hate and extremism, there is a growing fear of what their country is becoming.
 

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