Was Melissa really a Cat 5 or a Cat 1 hoax?

[EMH]

Don't trust your lying eyes,

Right there in the front still

TREES STILL STANDING

BUILDINGS AND FENCES STILL STANDING

Max wind there 80mph...

 

[Concerned American]

Show me where it looks like a Cat 5 hit...

jamaica photos - Google Search

Those photos all look like a Cat 1 max.

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Like "ocean rise," the question now is

CAN YOU SHOW US A PHOTO of "CAT 5 DAMAGE" on Jamaica, because that's not what the photos show as of now....

Today's report--35 fatalities in Jamaica due to Melissa. This is not even a third of the fatalities from Helene in NC alone. CAT 5, LMAO. CC hysteria and a quiet hurricane season that the left wants to vilify.

 

[EMH]

Today's report--35 fatalities in Jamaica due to Melissa. This is not even a third of the fatalities from Helene in NC alone. CAT 5, LMAO. CC hysteria and a quiet hurricane season that the left wants to vilify.

And we also cannot trust that number either.

Some innocent people were harmed and died, for certain. No idea how many. Certainly would have been a lot worse if it actually was a Cat 5, which it never was. It was CO2 FRAUD desperately trying to have something to talk about....

 

[Concerned American]

And we also cannot trust that number either.

Some innocent people were harmed and died, for certain. No idea how many. Certainly would have been a lot worse if it actually was a Cat 5, which it never was. It was CO2 FRAUD desperately trying to have something to talk about....

Watched our local weather guy talking about it last night---I laughed when he said, "sustained winds of 110 mph---one mph less than a CAT 3." LOL, priceless.

 

[EMH]

Watched our local weather guy talking about it last night---I laughed when he said, "sustained winds of 110 mph---one mph less than a CAT 3." LOL, priceless.

expected storm surge 13 feet... what we observed was 8-10 feet, Cat 1-2.

Ask Goog AI and it says Cat 5 minimum 18 feet and that's 160 mph not 200....

 

[BackAgain]

expected storm surge 13 feet... what we observed was 8-10 feet, Cat 1-2.

Ask Goog AI and it says Cat 5 minimum 18 feet and that's 160 mph not 200....

If it wasn’t a Category 5, is the damage of a significantly lower Category consistent with what we be seen on the Island of Jamaica?

Note: ^ that’s a question. It isn’t an attack on your claim.

 

[EMH]

If it wasn’t a Category 5, is the damage of a significantly lower Category consistent with what we be seen on the Island of Jamaica?

Note: ^ that’s a question. It isn’t an attack on your claim.

200mph winds flatten everything, all trees down, all flimsy buildings gone, just brick and steel survive.

We don't see anything like that. We see wind damage consistent with 80-100 mph winds and an 8-10 foot storm surge = Cat 1-2


I found a link earlier saying healthy Palm trees snap around 145 mph winds, and just about every palm on Jamaica didn't snap, the ones that did likely weren't entirely healthy.

This storm was never a Cat 5. This is the very end of cane season. The Sun has been south of Equator for 5 weeks, Sun is now up 11 hours a day etc. End of cane season you see Cat 1-2, not 5. Water not warm enough for 5.

 

[BackAgain]

200mph winds flatten everything, all trees down, all flimsy buildings gone, just brick and steel survive.

We don't see anything like that. We see wind damage consistent with 80-100 mph winds and an 8-10 foot storm surge = Cat 1-2


I found a link earlier saying healthy Palm trees snap around 145 mph winds, and just about every palm on Jamaica didn't snap, the ones that did likely weren't entirely healthy.

This storm was never a Cat 5. This is the very end of cane season. The Sun has been south of Equator for 5 weeks, Sun is now up 11 hours a day etc. End of cane season you see Cat 1-2, not 5. Water not warm enough for 5.

Thanks for the reply.

I need to go back and actually read the OP etc. I think that might clear up some questions I have.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You can probably go down to Mexico City and see if they have recovered yet, it might be hard to tell, though. View attachment 1178573

Isn't that Anaheim or Santa Ana?

 

[BackAgain]

I can think of one reason for such a weather-reporting “spin.” But I don’t see it as a conspiracy for “funding.” I do suspect that it might be very much related to the entire claim of the AGW crowd.

 

[EMH]

I can think of one reason for such a weather-reporting “spin.” But I don’t see it as a conspiracy for “funding.” I do suspect that it might be very much related to the entire claim of the AGW crowd.

They needed to claim "record" and "climate change caused this" stuff. That's why the NWS images were fudged from an earlier cane and the stats were intentionally inflated. CO2 FRAUD is on its last legs as more and more honest people notice there is precisely ZERO EVIDENCE that the planet is "warming."

 

[BackAgain]

They needed to claim "record" and "climate change caused this" stuff. That's why the NWS images were fudged from an earlier cane and the stats were intentionally inflated. CO2 FRAUD is on its last legs as more and more honest people notice there is precisely ZERO EVIDENCE that the planet is "warming."

I could probably get the info pretty quick. But I recall hearing, on tv news just before this hurricane to was hit Jamaica, that the waters around Jamaica were two degrees warmer than they had been the year before.

If that’s true, maybe the predictions about the expected Category was fair.

 

[EMH]

I could probably get the info pretty quick. But I recall hearing, on tv news just before this hurricane to was hit Jamaica, that the waters around Jamaica were two degrees warmer than they had been the year before.

If that’s true, maybe the predictions about the expected Category was fair.

A two degree fluctuation isn't exactly a large one.

Cape Cod can have 10F fluctuations year over year.

Looks like CO2 FRAUD is hard at work online, because while 80F is the trigger to form a cane Cat 1, and it now says 82F causes Cat 5, and that's laughable. Cat 5 requires more than 82F. They know they're lying and they are rigging the Google AI and others to say what they want.

Without an honest site to check, I'd guess 2-3 degrees F is required for each Cat jump, making Cat 5 at least 88F.


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[Zincwarrior]

Melissa’s Aftermath Leaves St. Elizabeth Stripped Bare | Weather.com

As Hurricane Melissa passed over Jamaica, the skies have cleared this morning to show devastation across the island’s southwest region.

weather.com

devestation across Jamaica

 

[EMH]

The real question is "Are" we seeing more cat 5 canes?

Why Are We Seeing More Category 5 Hurricanes?

In order to form, Category 5 hurricanes require a “perfect storm” of factors.

time.com

The number of people involved with lying/fudging/misleading about Melissa is huge. Melissa was never a Cat 5. Last year there was another phantom Cat 5 that hit the Lesser Antilles and did Cat 1 damage too.


So the answer is

WE ARE NOT SEEING ANY INCREASE in Cat 5's, we are seeing thousands of treasonous liars lying about it....

 

[Sunsettommy]

The video you posted though shows mostly massive flooding, some roof damage which you would expect in all hurricanes, even a Cat 1 or 2, but not the destruction of buildings that you would expect in a Cat 5.

The OP simply raises the question of why they aren't showing the damage you would typically see in a Cat 5 hurricane. He hasn't said there was no hurricane. But has reason to question the category.

He certainly does not deserve verbal attacks on his character or intellect.

No the damage varies as winds can be directly on the surface or 10-20 feet above the surface as wind varies in depth in its flow through the AIR where it is moving though. the Category 5 rating tells us the estimated wind speed wind damage is normally variable.

 

[Old Rocks]

The real question is "Are" we seeing more cat 5 canes?

Why Are We Seeing More Category 5 Hurricanes?

In order to form, Category 5 hurricanes require a “perfect storm” of factors.

time.com

The number of people involved with lying/fudging/misleading about Melissa is huge. Melissa was never a Cat 5. Last year there was another phantom Cat 5 that hit the Lesser Antilles and did Cat 1 damage too.


So the answer is

WE ARE NOT SEEING ANY INCREASE in Cat 5's, we are seeing thousands of treasonous liars lying about it....

Ah yes, the whole damned scientific world lying just to fool little old you. By God, you must be as important as Jesus to warrant such attention from the millions of scientists around the world,

 

[Old Rocks]

The real question is "Are" we seeing more cat 5 canes?

Why Are We Seeing More Category 5 Hurricanes?

In order to form, Category 5 hurricanes require a “perfect storm” of factors.

time.com

The number of people involved with lying/fudging/misleading about Melissa is huge. Melissa was never a Cat 5. Last year there was another phantom Cat 5 that hit the Lesser Antilles and did Cat 1 damage too.


So the answer is

WE ARE NOT SEEING ANY INCREASE in Cat 5's, we are seeing thousands of treasonous liars lying about it....

Yes, we are seeing a major increase in cat 5 storms in the last ten years.

MSN

 

[EMH]

the millions of scientists

Actually the vast majority of actual scientists do not believe in CO2 FRAUD. There are "thousands," not millions, of taxpayer funded fudgebaking liars called "climate scientists" and this is what they do...

they take evidence of NO WARMING and FUDGE IT to show "warming" that does not exist...

And "hurricane Melissa" being a "Cat 5" is another example of it.

Find us another "Cat 5" with a reported storm surge of 13 feet....

 

[EMH]

Yes, we are seeing a major increase in cat 5 storms in the last ten years.

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MSN

What we are seeing in the past 10 years is CO2 FRAUD fudging and lying and calling Cat 1's and 2's "5's" and Melissa is just the latest example of it.