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War with Israel is imminent

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At this point in the history of the world, I don't think any nuclear nation would use them as it would unleash mutually assured global destruction.
The psychopaths who rule the terrorist state of Israel would use their nuclear weapons if things started turning against them. .... :cool:
I'm aware of that. . . but?

I think that is, bluster, to keep the Israeli enemies at bay.. . . .

. . . well, I think a lot of it would depend on the situation.

I think if the central command in Israel realized, that they were at fault for the start of the war? I honestly do not think they would use it.

. . if, OTH, some madman, like a Saddam Hussein, or, some other wing nut madman caused an invasion? I just can't see Israel being so weak as to be invaded. . . but if it were a defensive use? Sure, I could see them using the Mutual Assured Destruction option.

but. . . the point here, is that currently, the IDF is being aggressive, and they have always been aggressive. If they were backed into a corner because of their offensive posture? Unless they are subhuman? I can't see them doing it.
 

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Any bets on which Mediterranean country starts it-?​


No nation in the ME would dare stand against Israel unless the USA had openly or secretly sanctioned it.

So if countries go to war, you can assume that our WH must have OKed it.

Never in a million years if Trump were still in his office!
 

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War with Israel is imminent

There is nothing left to say; but bye, bye, never to be remembered again
Any bets on which Mediterranean country starts it-?
My bet is on Egypt
What's yours-?
:)-
No Israel and Egypt are finished with wars ..they had about 5
 

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However. . . if Israel used it's superior tech, even limited, like a tactical nuke on a major Turkish military or civilian target. . . that would really risk bringing in either the Russians or the Iranians
The Iranians would be involved in any case in the war against Israel. Maybe not by sending large amounts of their military, but pushing their proxies in Lebanon and Syria.

About the Russians.. It is doubtful they would get involved on Turkey's side. After all, Turkey and Russia have been adversaries throughout virtually all of their history and Russia isnt too interested in Turkey becoming regional super power.
 

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However. . . if Israel used it's superior tech, even limited, like a tactical nuke on a major Turkish military or civilian target. . . that would really risk bringing in either the Russians or the Iranians
The Iranians would be involved in any case in the war against Israel. Maybe not by sending large amounts of their military, but pushing their proxies in Lebanon and Syria.

About the Russians.. It is doubtful they would get involved on Turkey's side. After all, Turkey and Russia have been adversaries throughout virtually all of their history and Russia isnt too interested in Turkey becoming regional super power.
If China and Japan went to war. . . I guess the US would be on China's side. . . because, well, traditionally the US has been the enemy of Japan.

:rolleyes:
 

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However. . . if Israel used it's superior tech, even limited, like a tactical nuke on a major Turkish military or civilian target. . . that would really risk bringing in either the Russians or the Iranians
The Iranians would be involved in any case in the war against Israel. Maybe not by sending large amounts of their military, but pushing their proxies in Lebanon and Syria.

About the Russians.. It is doubtful they would get involved on Turkey's side. After all, Turkey and Russia have been adversaries throughout virtually all of their history and Russia isnt too interested in Turkey becoming regional super power.
If China and Japan went to war. . . I guess the US would be on China's side. . . because, well, traditionally the US has been the enemy of Japan.

:rolleyes:
'Traditionally' in your case means only one major war in the 20th century. Read about history of Russia-Turkey relations since the Crimean Khanat's establishment at least to get the difference.

Also, you missed the second part of my post - Russia isn't interested in Turkey becoming regional super power. In the case with Japan and the US things are exactly opposite.
 

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War with Israel is imminent

There is nothing left to say; but bye, bye, never to be remembered again
Any bets on which Mediterranean country starts it-?
My bet is on Egypt
What's yours-?
:)-
I don't know if you're genuinely stupid or that's just wishful thinking but minute something like that get's serious the USA and the UK and maybe even some European powerhouses like Germany will get involved and any blow any 2-bit rag head nations into next week.
. . . unless it happens to be Turkey.

My money is on Turkey.

Eventually, once the Turks get sick of Mossad's infiltration of their military, and their bureaucracy, and the Israeli meddling in Syria, shit will come to a head.

. . . and the thing is, these two nations are equally matched.

No one in NATO wants to contend with the power of the Turkish Army, Navy or Air Force. It is not small by any means, and I doubt seriously that the Israelis would use nukes, even as a last resort.
If Turkey get involved then that's a direct contravention of their own NATO membership as they've picked a side in the Israel/Palestine conflict so I can't see them doing it.

Reason that wouldn't apply to the USA and the UK would be they wouldn't be picking a side in the Israel/Palestine conflict directly - they'd be going after whoever was Palestine-friendly and decided on going after Israel that way by waging their own war on Israel like the OP suggests.

Turkey’s Erdogan tells Putin Israel needs to be taught ‘deterrent lesson’​


". . .The Turkish strongman told Russian President Vladimir Putin that he wanted “the international community to give Israel a strong and deterrent lesson,” adding that the UN Security Council should intervene with “determined and clear messages” to Israel.

Erdogan made no secret of which side he was choosing in the conflict as he talked to Putin by phone Wednesday about the escalating military showdown between Israel and Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip, as reported by the Associated Press.

The Turkish leader also pressed Putin on the need for a global force to protect the Palestinians.. . "


". . .Meanwhile, thousands of people in Istanbul defied a nationwide coronavirus curfew late on Tuesday to demonstrate against Israel’s attacks. A large convoy of cars drove toward the Israeli Consulate, waving Turkish and Palestinian flags. An image of the Palestinian and Turkish flags was projected onto the Israeli building. . . . "
They won't do shit - all talk.

and a lesson against what? stopping your neighbours firing rockets at you, trying to kill you first and then defending yourself?

There's a reason why establishments and big countries are on the side of Israel as standard and it's nothing to do with Zionist conspiracies or Jew's running the world - it's because facts triumph emotion - at all times - in spite of the lefts emotive whining.
 

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However. . . if Israel used it's superior tech, even limited, like a tactical nuke on a major Turkish military or civilian target. . . that would really risk bringing in either the Russians or the Iranians
The Iranians would be involved in any case in the war against Israel. Maybe not by sending large amounts of their military, but pushing their proxies in Lebanon and Syria.

About the Russians.. It is doubtful they would get involved on Turkey's side. After all, Turkey and Russia have been adversaries throughout virtually all of their history and Russia isnt too interested in Turkey becoming regional super power.
Turkey is also a NATO member nation---for the moment.
 

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War with Israel is imminent

There is nothing left to say; but bye, bye, never to be remembered again
Any bets on which Mediterranean country starts it-?
My bet is on Egypt
What's yours-?
:)-

Nobody is going to make war on Israel. They aren't worth it. Bibi and wife are up on corruption charges and he can't form a coalition government. He just belligerent and trying desperately to hang on to power.
 

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Meanwhile, thousands of people in Istanbul defied a nationwide coronavirus curfew late on Tuesday to demonstrate against Israel’s attacks.
Bully for them. Erdog likes to talk crap but he knows better than to take on that fight.
While I do agree. . . . that wasn't the premise of the thread.

. . . if such a conflagration WAS to be started? We both know that agents in both the Deep State of Turkey and Israel would orchestrate it for their own reasons.

I only mention it, because both nations have interest in Syria, and in the same area of the Mediterranean which has known oil reserves.

I remember several years back there was quite a bit of tension over a boat sinking I think?

Syria has no oil.Their production peaked in 1996.
 

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However. . . if Israel used it's superior tech, even limited, like a tactical nuke on a major Turkish military or civilian target. . . that would really risk bringing in either the Russians or the Iranians
The Iranians would be involved in any case in the war against Israel. Maybe not by sending large amounts of their military, but pushing their proxies in Lebanon and Syria.

About the Russians.. It is doubtful they would get involved on Turkey's side. After all, Turkey and Russia have been adversaries throughout virtually all of their history and Russia isnt too interested in Turkey becoming regional super power.
Turkey is also a NATO member nation---for the moment.
See. . . that is the only caveat there.

. . but? Israel isn't.

And? When Iraq posed a threat to US national interests, the US attacked Iraq. . .so there is nothing in the NATO charter the prohibits Turkey from claiming it is in their national self-defense interest from a defensive move against Israel if they felt the incursions into Syria were a threat. . .

NOT A DAMN THING NATO COULD SAY OR DO.

Just like many NATO members were pissed about what the US did in Iraq? Turkey would just tell the rest of NATO to go pound sand. . .
 

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However. . . if Israel used it's superior tech, even limited, like a tactical nuke on a major Turkish military or civilian target. . . that would really risk bringing in either the Russians or the Iranians
The Iranians would be involved in any case in the war against Israel. Maybe not by sending large amounts of their military, but pushing their proxies in Lebanon and Syria.

About the Russians.. It is doubtful they would get involved on Turkey's side. After all, Turkey and Russia have been adversaries throughout virtually all of their history and Russia isnt too interested in Turkey becoming regional super power.
Turkey is also a NATO member nation---for the moment.
See. . . that is the only caveat there.

. . but? Israel isn't.

And? When Iraq posed a threat to US national interests, the US attacked Iraq. . .so there is nothing in the NATO charter the prohibits Turkey from claiming it is in their national self-defense interest from a defensive move against Israel if they felt the incursions into Syria were a threat. . .

NOT A DAMN THING NATO COULD SAY OR DO.

Just like many NATO members were pissed about what the US did in Iraq? Turkey would just tell the rest of NATO to go pound sand. . .

Hahahaha.. Iraq never posed any threat to US intrests. Are you a luntic?
 

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Meanwhile, thousands of people in Istanbul defied a nationwide coronavirus curfew late on Tuesday to demonstrate against Israel’s attacks.
Bully for them. Erdog likes to talk crap but he knows better than to take on that fight.
While I do agree. . . . that wasn't the premise of the thread.

. . . if such a conflagration WAS to be started? We both know that agents in both the Deep State of Turkey and Israel would orchestrate it for their own reasons.

I only mention it, because both nations have interest in Syria, and in the same area of the Mediterranean which has known oil reserves.

I remember several years back there was quite a bit of tension over a boat sinking I think?

Syria has no oil.Their production peaked in 1996.
I have to admit. . . I don't pay attention much to the politics in that area. I just wish the US would withdraw all interest from there.

You are correct, it is contested between Egypt, Cypress, Lebanon, and Israel. (I'm sure the folks in Gaza get no piece of that pie. :heehee:)

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However. . . if Israel used it's superior tech, even limited, like a tactical nuke on a major Turkish military or civilian target. . . that would really risk bringing in either the Russians or the Iranians
The Iranians would be involved in any case in the war against Israel. Maybe not by sending large amounts of their military, but pushing their proxies in Lebanon and Syria.

About the Russians.. It is doubtful they would get involved on Turkey's side. After all, Turkey and Russia have been adversaries throughout virtually all of their history and Russia isnt too interested in Turkey becoming regional super power.
Turkey is also a NATO member nation---for the moment.
See. . . that is the only caveat there.

. . but? Israel isn't.

And? When Iraq posed a threat to US national interests, the US attacked Iraq. . .so there is nothing in the NATO charter the prohibits Turkey from claiming it is in their national self-defense interest from a defensive move against Israel if they felt the incursions into Syria were a threat. . .

NOT A DAMN THING NATO COULD SAY OR DO.

Just like many NATO members were pissed about what the US did in Iraq? Turkey would just tell the rest of NATO to go pound sand. . .

Hahahaha.. Iraq never posed any threat to US intrests. Are you a luntic?
Hey man, I couldn't agree more, I'm just re-telling official history of the global oligarchs. This is stuff that happened, and the reasons the political and military leaders gave.

If you don't pay attention to history and learn how these maniacs act, you won't understand how they will continue to act.
 

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However. . . if Israel used it's superior tech, even limited, like a tactical nuke on a major Turkish military or civilian target. . . that would really risk bringing in either the Russians or the Iranians
The Iranians would be involved in any case in the war against Israel. Maybe not by sending large amounts of their military, but pushing their proxies in Lebanon and Syria.

About the Russians.. It is doubtful they would get involved on Turkey's side. After all, Turkey and Russia have been adversaries throughout virtually all of their history and Russia isnt too interested in Turkey becoming regional super power.
Turkey is also a NATO member nation---for the moment.
Yes, and? This fact wouldn't stop Turkey from using their troops abroad and wouldn't have other NATO members to protect Turkish troops in fighting abroad.

Anyway, I dont think Turkey will be using its troops in a war with Israel. Directly, at least.
 

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War with Israel is imminent

There is nothing left to say; but bye, bye, never to be remembered again
Any bets on which Mediterranean country starts it-?
My bet is on Egypt
What's yours-?
:)-
It's not like the book of Revelation, Daniel, Zechariah, Psalms, Isaiah, Ezekiel didn't warn the whole world that this is how it ends, now is it?
 

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However. . . if Israel used it's superior tech, even limited, like a tactical nuke on a major Turkish military or civilian target. . . that would really risk bringing in either the Russians or the Iranians
The Iranians would be involved in any case in the war against Israel. Maybe not by sending large amounts of their military, but pushing their proxies in Lebanon and Syria.

About the Russians.. It is doubtful they would get involved on Turkey's side. After all, Turkey and Russia have been adversaries throughout virtually all of their history and Russia isnt too interested in Turkey becoming regional super power.
Turkey is also a NATO member nation---for the moment.
Yes, and? This fact wouldn't stop Turkey from using their troops abroad and wouldn't have other NATO members to protect Turkish troops in fighting abroad.

Anyway, I dont think Turkey will be using its troops in a war with Israel. Directly, at least.
Ezekiel 38 has the Gog and Magog War with Israel starting in Syria with Turkey, Iran and Russia allied with some other minor Islamic nations coming down to destroy Israel.
 

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Ezekiel 38

The Lord’s Great Victory Over the Nations​

38 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshek and Tubal; prophesy against him 3 and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshek and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. 5 Persia, Cush and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, 6 also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you.

7 “‘Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them. 8 After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. 9 You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.

10 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. 11 You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. 12 I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land.” 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages will say to you, “Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?”’

14 “Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? 15 You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army. 16 You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud that covers the land. In days to come, Gog, I will bring you against my land, so that the nations may know me when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.

17 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: You are the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel. At that time they prophesied for years that I would bring you against them. 18 This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign Lord. 19 In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign Lord. Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22 I will execute judgment on him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him. 23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the Lord.’
 

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However. . . if Israel used it's superior tech, even limited, like a tactical nuke on a major Turkish military or civilian target. . . that would really risk bringing in either the Russians or the Iranians
The Iranians would be involved in any case in the war against Israel. Maybe not by sending large amounts of their military, but pushing their proxies in Lebanon and Syria.

About the Russians.. It is doubtful they would get involved on Turkey's side. After all, Turkey and Russia have been adversaries throughout virtually all of their history and Russia isnt too interested in Turkey becoming regional super power.

Conflict was between Tsarist Russia and Ottoman Empire.
Bolshevik Russia just like the Muslims of Indian subcontinent supported Turkey during fall of Ottoman Empire.
Without material help from Lenin Atatürk couldn't succeed founding Turkey and Turkey would be just another country whose borders where drawn by imperialist designs.

In Momument of the Republic (Republic Monument - Wikipedia) both Frunze and Voroshilov are portrayed besides Atatürk.

 
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The psychopaths who rule the terrorist state of Israel would use their nuclear weapons if things started turning against them. .... :cool:
You are so right on.

The Zionists are psychopaths who believe they are the chosen above all others. These Israelis are also racists, devoid of any moral values.

And I repeat, Israel does not have any nukes, period.

Now back to the WAR that will end this disease infected zombie, one and for all.

:)-
 

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