War on The Rich: Dumbest Idea in History of Man

[Discombobulated]

What Marxist ideology am I parroting? LOL. Free market capitalism only gets people cheated. see the Boosh meltdown, the day of the trusts in the industrial revolution, and the roaring 20's. All Pub "good old days"...see, no revolution of the proletariat, just learning from history and intelligence.

LMFAO! You do know who Karl Marx is, don't you?

I mean... maybe you don't and that explains why virtually everything you type is Marxist propaganda and you're not aware of that... I guess that is a possibility.

I don't think anyone outside internet forums really takes those kind of rhetorical definitions very seriously.

 

[Boss]

Face it, Obama is a conservative

OMG... Please stop it! My sides are hurting from laughing so hard!

 

[Dad2three]

Yes, CONSERVATIVES 'FREE TRADE'. NAFTA? The idea coming from right wing Heritage Foundation, proposed by Ronnie Reagan the day he announced his run for Prez in 1979, DID get pushed through by the best conservative Prez since Ike, BJ Bill

NAFTA's the ONLY 'free trade' agreement? lol

Corp tax burden highest in the world? Oh right, you are a liar so of course you go with the MYTH that since the US has the highest Corp MARGINAL rate of 35% , though EFFECTIVE tax rates are the best way to measure, and 12% puts US at the 3rd lowest tax BURDEN (your word) in the developed world. Only Mexico and Chile are lower


What does Corp tax rates have to do with jobs? Since Corps higher based on DEMAND not how much money they will pay on PROFITS in taxes?

PLEASE, pretty please, grow a fukkking brain!

Bill Clinton was a Conservative??? LMFAOOoooooo! WOW!
Well... I suppose when we compare Clinton with the Muslim Marxist-in-Chief we now have, maybe he WAS conservative? Still.... LMFAOOOOooooooo! That's RICH! (*oops... don't fire the cannons at your own ridiculous point!)

What does Corp tax rates have to do with jobs?
Uhm... it keeps more of them from being created... duh!

...you go with the MYTH that since the US has the highest Corp MARGINAL rate of 35% , though EFFECTIVE tax rates are the best way to measure, and 12% puts US at the 3rd lowest tax BURDEN (your word) in the developed world. Only Mexico and Chile are lower.

I said the US has the highest corporate tax rate. "Burden" is YOUR word, and you had to go through a series of acrobatics with statistics to claim you refuted my point.

Corporate Taxes as a Percentage of Federal Revenue

1955 . . . 27.3%
2010 . . . 8.9%

Corporate Taxes as a Percentage of GDP

1955 . . . 4.3%
2010 . . . 1.3%

Individual Income/Payrolls as a Percentage of Federal Revenue

1955 . . . 58.0%
2010 . . . 81.5%

Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time High

'corporate profits are at an all-time high as a percentage of the economy, wages are at an all-time low.'

'Last year, corporations made a record $824 billion, which didn’t stop conservatives from continually claiming that President Obama is anti-business.'
Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time High ThinkProgress



The fortunate 400

400 tax returns reporting the highest incomes in 2009.

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.
another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes.


The fortunate 400 David Cay Johnston Reuters

The 400 richest Americans used to pay 30% of their income on the average to Uncle Sam(but 55% in 1955).


A REAL FUKKING WAR *SHAKING HEAD*

"the US has the highest Corp MARGINAL rate of 35%" ~ Dad2three

Which mean NOTHING in the real world where Corps pay EFFECTIVE rates of 12% (40 year lows) on RECORD profits


Warren Buffett: ‘It Is A Myth’ That U.S. Corporate Taxes Are High


So our corporate tax rate last year, effectively, in terms of taxes paid for the United States, was around 12 percent, which is well below those existing in most of the industrialized countries around the world. So it is a myth that American corporations are paying 35 percent or anything like it…Corporate taxes are not strangling American competitiveness.

 

[Boss]

What Marxist ideology am I parroting? LOL. Free market capitalism only gets people cheated. see the Boosh meltdown, the day of the trusts in the industrial revolution, and the roaring 20's. All Pub "good old days"...see, no revolution of the proletariat, just learning from history and intelligence.

LMFAO! You do know who Karl Marx is, don't you?

I mean... maybe you don't and that explains why virtually everything you type is Marxist propaganda and you're not aware of that... I guess that is a possibility.

I don't think anyone outside internet forums really takes those kind of rhetorical definitions very seriously.

Yeah? Well, I don't think anyone inside or outside internet forums takes you very seriously... soooooo....

 

[Dad2three]

Face it, Obama is a conservative

OMG... Please stop it! My sides are hurting from laughing so hard!

I know, it must be the single payer H/C he pushed through and the tax burden on the 'job creators' right?


Oh wait, we don't have single payer, we have one modeled after right wing Heritage/Romney and taxes on the 'job creators' are at the lowest SUSTAINED level for 80+ years. Wow he's a horrible socialist/Marxist

 

[Boss]

Yes, CONSERVATIVES 'FREE TRADE'. NAFTA? The idea coming from right wing Heritage Foundation, proposed by Ronnie Reagan the day he announced his run for Prez in 1979, DID get pushed through by the best conservative Prez since Ike, BJ Bill

NAFTA's the ONLY 'free trade' agreement? lol

Corp tax burden highest in the world? Oh right, you are a liar so of course you go with the MYTH that since the US has the highest Corp MARGINAL rate of 35% , though EFFECTIVE tax rates are the best way to measure, and 12% puts US at the 3rd lowest tax BURDEN (your word) in the developed world. Only Mexico and Chile are lower


What does Corp tax rates have to do with jobs? Since Corps higher based on DEMAND not how much money they will pay on PROFITS in taxes?

PLEASE, pretty please, grow a fukkking brain!

Bill Clinton was a Conservative??? LMFAOOoooooo! WOW!
Well... I suppose when we compare Clinton with the Muslim Marxist-in-Chief we now have, maybe he WAS conservative? Still.... LMFAOOOOooooooo! That's RICH! (*oops... don't fire the cannons at your own ridiculous point!)

What does Corp tax rates have to do with jobs?
Uhm... it keeps more of them from being created... duh!

...you go with the MYTH that since the US has the highest Corp MARGINAL rate of 35% , though EFFECTIVE tax rates are the best way to measure, and 12% puts US at the 3rd lowest tax BURDEN (your word) in the developed world. Only Mexico and Chile are lower.

I said the US has the highest corporate tax rate. "Burden" is YOUR word, and you had to go through a series of acrobatics with statistics to claim you refuted my point.

Corporate Taxes as a Percentage of Federal Revenue

1955 . . . 27.3%
2010 . . . 8.9%

Corporate Taxes as a Percentage of GDP

1955 . . . 4.3%
2010 . . . 1.3%

Individual Income/Payrolls as a Percentage of Federal Revenue

1955 . . . 58.0%
2010 . . . 81.5%

Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time High

'corporate profits are at an all-time high as a percentage of the economy, wages are at an all-time low.'

'Last year, corporations made a record $824 billion, which didn’t stop conservatives from continually claiming that President Obama is anti-business.'
Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time High ThinkProgress



The fortunate 400

400 tax returns reporting the highest incomes in 2009.

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.
another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes.


The fortunate 400 David Cay Johnston Reuters

The 400 richest Americans used to pay 30% of their income on the average to Uncle Sam(but 55% in 1955).


A REAL FUKKING WAR *SHAKING HEAD*

"the US has the highest Corp MARGINAL rate of 35%" ~ Dad2three

Which mean NOTHING in the real world where Corps pay EFFECTIVE rates of 12% (40 year lows) on RECORD profits


Warren Buffett: ‘It Is A Myth’ That U.S. Corporate Taxes Are High


So our corporate tax rate last year, effectively, in terms of taxes paid for the United States, was around 12 percent, which is well below those existing in most of the industrialized countries around the world. So it is a myth that American corporations are paying 35 percent or anything like it…Corporate taxes are not strangling American competitiveness.

"The US has the highest Corporate tax rate in the world." ~Boss
"the US has the highest Corp MARGINAL rate of 35%" ~ Dad2three

I'm glad we could agree on that.

 

[Boss]

I know, it must be the single payer H/C he pushed through and the tax burden on the 'job creators' right?


Oh wait, we don't have single payer, we have one modeled after right wing Heritage/Romney and taxes on the 'job creators' are at the lowest SUSTAINED level for 80+ years. Wow he's a horrible socialist/Marxist

The ONLY reason you don't have single payer is there weren't enough Socialist Democrats willing to vote for it. Republicans didn't vote for ANY of Obamacare.

 

[Dad2three]

What Marxist ideology am I parroting? LOL. Free market capitalism only gets people cheated. see the Boosh meltdown, the day of the trusts in the industrial revolution, and the roaring 20's. All Pub "good old days"...see, no revolution of the proletariat, just learning from history and intelligence.

LMFAO! You do know who Karl Marx is, don't you?

I mean... maybe you don't and that explains why virtually everything you type is Marxist propaganda and you're not aware of that... I guess that is a possibility.

I don't think anyone outside internet forums really takes those kind of rhetorical definitions very seriously.

Yeah? Well, I don't think anyone inside or outside internet forums takes you very seriously... soooooo....

LOVE how you ignore when you get called out, like YOUR positing the Corp tax BURDEN wasn't really called that by you or EFFECTIVE tax rates on the 'job creators', especially the top 1/10th of 1% NEVER were that high (though I showed EFFECTIVE rates in the 60%-71% for decades on them), lol

You're a peach Bubba. A rotten, smelly one, but one the same

 

[Dad2three]

Yes, CONSERVATIVES 'FREE TRADE'. NAFTA? The idea coming from right wing Heritage Foundation, proposed by Ronnie Reagan the day he announced his run for Prez in 1979, DID get pushed through by the best conservative Prez since Ike, BJ Bill

NAFTA's the ONLY 'free trade' agreement? lol

Corp tax burden highest in the world? Oh right, you are a liar so of course you go with the MYTH that since the US has the highest Corp MARGINAL rate of 35% , though EFFECTIVE tax rates are the best way to measure, and 12% puts US at the 3rd lowest tax BURDEN (your word) in the developed world. Only Mexico and Chile are lower


What does Corp tax rates have to do with jobs? Since Corps higher based on DEMAND not how much money they will pay on PROFITS in taxes?

PLEASE, pretty please, grow a fukkking brain!

Bill Clinton was a Conservative??? LMFAOOoooooo! WOW!
Well... I suppose when we compare Clinton with the Muslim Marxist-in-Chief we now have, maybe he WAS conservative? Still.... LMFAOOOOooooooo! That's RICH! (*oops... don't fire the cannons at your own ridiculous point!)

What does Corp tax rates have to do with jobs?
Uhm... it keeps more of them from being created... duh!

...you go with the MYTH that since the US has the highest Corp MARGINAL rate of 35% , though EFFECTIVE tax rates are the best way to measure, and 12% puts US at the 3rd lowest tax BURDEN (your word) in the developed world. Only Mexico and Chile are lower.

I said the US has the highest corporate tax rate. "Burden" is YOUR word, and you had to go through a series of acrobatics with statistics to claim you refuted my point.

Corporate Taxes as a Percentage of Federal Revenue

1955 . . . 27.3%
2010 . . . 8.9%

Corporate Taxes as a Percentage of GDP

1955 . . . 4.3%
2010 . . . 1.3%

Individual Income/Payrolls as a Percentage of Federal Revenue

1955 . . . 58.0%
2010 . . . 81.5%

Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time High

'corporate profits are at an all-time high as a percentage of the economy, wages are at an all-time low.'

'Last year, corporations made a record $824 billion, which didn’t stop conservatives from continually claiming that President Obama is anti-business.'
Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time High ThinkProgress



The fortunate 400

400 tax returns reporting the highest incomes in 2009.

Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.
another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes.


The fortunate 400 David Cay Johnston Reuters

The 400 richest Americans used to pay 30% of their income on the average to Uncle Sam(but 55% in 1955).


A REAL FUKKING WAR *SHAKING HEAD*

"the US has the highest Corp MARGINAL rate of 35%" ~ Dad2three

Which mean NOTHING in the real world where Corps pay EFFECTIVE rates of 12% (40 year lows) on RECORD profits


Warren Buffett: ‘It Is A Myth’ That U.S. Corporate Taxes Are High


So our corporate tax rate last year, effectively, in terms of taxes paid for the United States, was around 12 percent, which is well below those existing in most of the industrialized countries around the world. So it is a myth that American corporations are paying 35 percent or anything like it…Corporate taxes are not strangling American competitiveness.

"The US has the highest Corporate tax rate in the world." ~Boss
"the US has the highest Corp MARGINAL rate of 35%" ~ Dad2three

I'm glad we could agree on that.

DUMBASS LIAR WRITES:

"I said the US has the highest corporate tax rate. "Burden" is YOUR word, and you had to go through a series of acrobatics with statistics to claim you refuted my point."

AFTER DUMBASS LIAR WROTE THIS

"As for tax burden, our corporate tax is the highest in the world. If we reduced it, we'd greatly increase the number of jobs created and prevent many more from being exported."

War on The Rich Dumbest Idea in History of Man Page 53 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Dad2three]

I know, it must be the single payer H/C he pushed through and the tax burden on the 'job creators' right?


Oh wait, we don't have single payer, we have one modeled after right wing Heritage/Romney and taxes on the 'job creators' are at the lowest SUSTAINED level for 80+ years. Wow he's a horrible socialist/Marxist

The ONLY reason you don't have single payer is there weren't enough Socialist Democrats willing to vote for it. Republicans didn't vote for ANY of Obamacare.

Weird, 10 years from now Repukes will clamor for credit. Of course, conservatives, NEVER on the correct side of history, will still be pushing for repeal of it, along with SS, Medicare, etc

 

[Boss]

The effective rate is acrobatics? Try the real world. And THAT seems to be paid mostly by small business. Keep defending the greedy rich's racket, dingbat dupe.

LOL... The rich don't need me to defend them, they are resoundingly kicking your ass without any help from me. I'm just sitting here on the sidelines watching them constantly outsmart you at every turn while you continue to shoot yourself in the foot, blow holes in your own ship and kill off your own citizenry in a war you can't win against an enemy you'll never defeat. It's amusing to me.

 

[Dad2three]

The effective rate is acrobatics? Try the real world. And THAT seems to be paid mostly by small business. Keep defending the greedy rich's racket, dingbat dupe.

LOL... The rich don't need me to defend them, they are resoundingly kicking your ass without any help from me. I'm just sitting here on the sidelines watching them constantly outsmart you at every turn while you continue to shoot yourself in the foot, blow holes in your own ship and kill off your own citizenry in a war you can't win against an enemy you'll never defeat. It's amusing to me.

corporate profits are at a record high, corporate taxes are at a nearly half-century low. When looking at the rate that corporations actually pay (as opposed to the statutory rate that only exists on paper), the U.S. has the second-lowest corporate tax rate in the developed world, and raises far less than other nations in corporate tax revenue.


Warren Buffett It Is A Myth That U.S. Corporate Taxes Are High ThinkProgress

 

[Boss]

Weird, 10 years from now Repukes will clamor for credit. Of course, conservatives, NEVER on the correct side of history, will still be pushing for repeal of it, along with SS, Medicare, etc

Hate to burst your bubble, it's not going to last 10 years. I doubt it will last beyond January 2017. If Social Security isn't reformed, it doesn't matter what conservatives do, it will be gone in 20 years. Medicare has already been raided by Obama to pay for Obamacare, so it's on life support now.

 

[Boss]

The effective rate is acrobatics? Try the real world. And THAT seems to be paid mostly by small business. Keep defending the greedy rich's racket, dingbat dupe.

LOL... The rich don't need me to defend them, they are resoundingly kicking your ass without any help from me. I'm just sitting here on the sidelines watching them constantly outsmart you at every turn while you continue to shoot yourself in the foot, blow holes in your own ship and kill off your own citizenry in a war you can't win against an enemy you'll never defeat. It's amusing to me.

corporate profits are at a record high, corporate taxes are at a nearly half-century low. When looking at the rate that corporations actually pay (as opposed to the statutory rate that only exists on paper), the U.S. has the second-lowest corporate tax rate in the developed world, and raises far less than other nations in corporate tax revenue.


Warren Buffett It Is A Myth That U.S. Corporate Taxes Are High ThinkProgress

Wow... this war on the rich really isn't going very well, is it?

corporate profits are at a record high

My oh my, this is some disparaging news from the frontline. After intense efforts, carpet bombings and troop surges, more body bags returning to us in flag-draped coffins, we are no closer to winning the war against the rich than 6 years ago.

Meanwhile, bullheaded Democrats insist we must press on! This all sounds so familiar.... like, I can almost hear Credence music playing in the background!

 

[Dad2three]

Weird, 10 years from now Repukes will clamor for credit. Of course, conservatives, NEVER on the correct side of history, will still be pushing for repeal of it, along with SS, Medicare, etc

Hate to burst your bubble, it's not going to last 10 years. I doubt it will last beyond January 2017. If Social Security isn't reformed, it doesn't matter what conservatives do, it will be gone in 20 years. Medicare has already been raided by Obama to pay for Obamacare, so it's on life support now.

Got it, a liar AND delusional

SS is funded at 87% for the next 50 years. Yeah, like the dozens of times it's been tweaked, it will be again. Medicare? Oh come on that meme is soooo used out. It's the same money the GOP was using for tax cuts for the 'job creators'

Obamacares is done huh? lol

You seriously think the GOP has a chance at winning in 2016? lol

 

[Dad2three]

The effective rate is acrobatics? Try the real world. And THAT seems to be paid mostly by small business. Keep defending the greedy rich's racket, dingbat dupe.

LOL... The rich don't need me to defend them, they are resoundingly kicking your ass without any help from me. I'm just sitting here on the sidelines watching them constantly outsmart you at every turn while you continue to shoot yourself in the foot, blow holes in your own ship and kill off your own citizenry in a war you can't win against an enemy you'll never defeat. It's amusing to me.

corporate profits are at a record high, corporate taxes are at a nearly half-century low. When looking at the rate that corporations actually pay (as opposed to the statutory rate that only exists on paper), the U.S. has the second-lowest corporate tax rate in the developed world, and raises far less than other nations in corporate tax revenue.


Warren Buffett It Is A Myth That U.S. Corporate Taxes Are High ThinkProgress

Wow... this war on the rich really isn't going very well, is it?

corporate profits are at a record high

My oh my, this is some disparaging news from the frontline. After intense efforts, carpet bombings and troop surges, more body bags returning to us in flag-draped coffins, we are no closer to winning the war against the rich than 6 years ago.

Meanwhile, bullheaded Democrats insist we must press on! This all sounds so familiar.... like, I can almost hear Credence music playing in the background!

You must get lots of time on your knees with those 'job creators' to be so up for them Bubba. It's OK, I get it

 

[francoHFW]

The effective rate is acrobatics? Try the real world. And THAT seems to be paid mostly by small business. Keep defending the greedy rich's racket, dingbat dupe.

LOL... The rich don't need me to defend them, they are resoundingly kicking your ass without any help from me. I'm just sitting here on the sidelines watching them constantly outsmart you at every turn while you continue to shoot yourself in the foot, blow holes in your own ship and kill off your own citizenry in a war you can't win against an enemy you'll never defeat. It's amusing to me.

They're also outbuying you, stupid. If YOU can't defeat them, gtf out of the way...

 

[francoHFW]

You vote for the greedy idiot rich, stupid- NOT sitting on the sidelines.

 

[MikeK]

Wrong! Wealth is NOT finite, it is infinite. People generate wealth through their labor, creativity, talents, etc.

Fiat wealth is infinite. Real wealth is finite. Because every element of real wealth represents crystallized human effort and/or a measure of some material resource, neither of which is inexhaustible.

 

[MikeK]

We are now in a situation where our wealthy class gets it's labor elsewhere and therefore no longer needs our working class nearly as much as in decades past. Wages have stagnated, fringe benefits are not what they used to be, no one was job security anymore, the wealthy have been allowed to openly buy elections and the voice of the great American working class has been all but silenced. From my perspective the war is all but over and the billionaires have won.

There has indeed the super-rich have won a major battle in what has been a kind of cold war with the working class. But the war isn't over. Because the rich has not yet achieved their ultimate goal, which is the total elimination of the middle class.

In terms of wealth distribution, things are pretty bad right now -- but obviously not bad enough. And I believe things will need to get even worse before they get better. And what getting better will take is a political revolution which is even more motivated and intense than that which attended the FDR era.

Right now a substantial percentage of the working class is still too comfortably lazy, content, and apathetic to raise any hell. But that won't last much longer.