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personally, I like the terms and conditions put forth by President Trump this week.
it's generous towards the Russians, possibly as generous as NATO and the EU should ever get.
and Ukraine would see an end to the war with it's capital and surrounding cities largely left standing.
 
personally, I like the terms and conditions put forth by President Trump this week.
it's generous towards the Russians, possibly as generous as NATO and the EU should ever get.
and Ukraine would see an end to the war with it's capital and surrounding cities largely left standing.
From what i am reading the Russians don't know anything about this plan, i believe if Putin doesn't see through the SMO objectives he will be replaced by a more hardline leader after so many deaths and destruction and suffering, these days Medvedev sounds more hardline when at one time he was seen as more sympathetic to the West, maybe he has woken up and seen what Russia is facing from an aggressive West.
 
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From what i am reading the Russians don't know anything about this plan, i believe if Putin doesn't see through the SMO objectives he will be replaced by a more hardline leader after so many deaths and destruction and suffering, these days Medvedev sounds more hardline when at one time he was seen as more sympathetic to the West, maybe he has woken up and seen what Russia is facing from an aggressive West.
Kellogg leaked it before it was presented, though I think I saw somewhere that it has been given to them in a semi formal way now.
 

Astonishing moment Putin's hypersonic missile pierces through sky during Ukraine onslaught​



"Vladimir Putin unleashed a new hypersonic ballistic missile on Ukraine in retaliation for its use of Western weapons to strike Russia.

This morning’s attack, using a mid-range hypersonic Oreshnik missile fired from Russia's southern Astrakhan region, comes 24 hours after Ukraine deployed US and British missiles on targets in Russia."


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Fired another one.

Russia fires Oreshnik hypersonic missile, with attacks on Ukraine killing at least 4​

European leaders condemn 'escalatory' Russian act, Ukraine calls for UN Security Council meeting​



 
two best tanks in the world have flopped mainly in Ukraine for reasons unrelated to how good the tanks are.
"...The two best tanks in the world (the second, of course, being the Abrams) failed in Ukraine mainly for reasons unrelated to their superiority. As expected, the unprepared Ukrainian troops tasked with maintaining the Leopard 2 were unable to perform the necessary maintenance."
 
two best tanks in the world have flopped mainly in Ukraine for reasons unrelated to how good the tanks are.
"...The two best tanks in the world (the second, of course, being the Abrams) failed in Ukraine mainly for reasons unrelated to their superiority. As expected, the unprepared Ukrainian troops tasked with maintaining the Leopard 2 were unable to perform the necessary maintenance."
That's why they would have had German teams helping them, the fact is no tank can stop Russian anti tank missiles like the Kornet, those Israeli thugs found that out in 2006 in Lebanon.
 
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🇷🇺 Mongoloids , how you can live this way ?
 
Can you elaborate on this?
When half of Kiev is freezing their asses taking a dump in a hole they dug out in the courtyard of their apartment buildings it's a sure sign of Russians loosing. Didn't you know? Every Ukrainian knows that.
 
It appears that the tide is turning and Russia is now losing the war.
So, they didn't lose before after all but are starting to lose only now? How about the billions they lost in the previous meat waves?
 
So, they didn't lose before after all but are starting to lose only now? How about the billions they lost in the previous meat waves?
They are running out of trained soldiers and are using poorly trained conscripts who are refusing to advance in many cases. Their economy is now in serious decline.
 
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They are running out of trained soldiers and are using poorly trained conscripts who are refusing to advance in many cases. Their economy is now in serious decline.
Oh, thanks, you've opened my eyes. Must have been the green goblin who told you that, the most trustworthy person in the world.
Sorry, my bad, the dumb **** that goes by the Litvin handle is the most, the goblin comes second.
 
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They are running out of trained soldiers and are using poorly trained conscripts who are refusing to advance in many cases. Their economy is now in serious decline.
I don´t know if that information is true but as you can read in this thread, for the Ukrainian side it has been proven.
Second, the economic situation will have little impact on the battlefield. Both Ukraine and Russia are engaged in a low-cost, infantry-based drone war: What ever will happen to the economy, it will always be enough to wage this kind of war.
 
When half of Kiev is freezing their asses taking a dump in a hole they dug out in the courtyard of their apartment buildings it's a sure sign of Russians loosing. Didn't you know? Every Ukrainian knows that.
Here is an interesting poll in Ukraine: Of the 40 % willing to concede the Donbass many cite the shelling but most of them the fear of loss of beloved ones.

 
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