Zone1 Wanna Be Catholic

[BreezeWood]

I did not miss what you wrote. I offered a different perspective.

that was their comment ... your perspective.

 

[ding]

If an organization says they are going to help the poor then they steal every penny and try to hide that would you feel that they were doing the best they could? Would you be willing to just oh well?

And you believe this is the rule instead of the exception?

 

[ding]

I've been a regular at Mass for over 30 years. I admire the Mass & the majority of the Catechism. I am pursuing RCIA or OCIA. However, due to the position taken below & a couple of other things, I struggle with the Believe all Catholic beliefs requirement. I feel that the Church should focus on the reason WHY the people are breaking into the US. Instead they are focusing on Trump's policy. Frustrating. What say you Catholics? Can you help me?

It's best to separate politics from faith.

 

[Meriweather]

And you believe this is the rule instead of the exception?

I noted he didn't necessarily specify the Catholic Church, noting "a church or organization". He also mentions "taking every penny". Yet he didn't mention who is taking every penny. Not knowing the books in the Catholic Bible also seemed a little off to me, as that was one of the early reasons he was giving for not continuing as a practicing Catholic. It also seems the reason he doesn't practice his own faith is due to the bad examples of everyone else, and that also seems odd to me. While we Catholics do come together and worship as a community and to serve as a community, much about of living our faith is also a private matter, which takes place between God and the individual.

 

[BreezeWood]

It's best to separate politics from faith.

I noted he didn't necessarily specify the Catholic Church, noting "a church or organization".

its obvious who is being discussed ...

what appeals to the religious some would be better served to know - has nothing to do with the bibles of the three desert religions ... their forgeries and fallacies.

 

[Maxdeath]

I did not miss what you wrote. I offered a different perspective.

You believe what ever you want. I feel you are being slightly disingenuous but hey you do you. Maybe one day you will tolerance of others.

 

[ding]

It also seems the reason he doesn't practice his own faith is due to the bad examples of everyone else...

That's what I was trying to understand.

And that he believes the exception is the rule.

 

[ding]

You believe what ever you want. I feel you are being slightly disingenuous but hey you do you. Maybe one day you will tolerance of others.

She's pretty tolerant especially for here.

Maybe you are the one who isn't so tolerant. That usually goes hand in hand with selectivity.

 

[ding]

its obvious who is being discussed ...

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what appeals to the religious some would be better served to know - has nothing to do with the bibles of the three desert religions ... their forgeries and fallacies.

Is it as obvious as you being a religious nutjob attacking rival religions?

 

[Meriweather]

You believe what ever you want. I feel you are being slightly disingenuous but hey you do you. Maybe one day you will tolerance of others.

Talk about believing whatever one wants! (Re-read your posts.) Actually, I am fully accepting of your perspective and decisions, so I regret you miss that. I am genuinely interested in why people give up God and His Ways. You say, that for you, it is because they observe some don't (yet) have it right. You seem unforgiving towards them, and fully forgiving of self. In any decision, there are pros and cons. Second, one of the first beefs you said you had about the Catholic Church is that they tossed some books out of the Bible. That really bugged you, when the fact is that it is the Catholic Church who kept them all.

You then say people act one way in Church and another way outside of Church. Does it occur to you, that the way one acts in church is limited? Have you noticed, that people can act one way inside a museum of great art and totally different when they are at the zoo? Your posts are hard on people. Does this mean you are hard on people in your daily life?

The other point that interests me when people give up faith, religion, church is whether it happens gradually, almost unnoticeably, or whether there was there an event or a moment of clarity. So, yes, your decisions do interest me, but thus far I find them difficult to understand.

 

[Meriweather]

That's what I was trying to understand.

And that he believes the exception is the rule.

Possibly because the news media failed to report this at the time it broke the story of Catholic priests, but school districts, scouting groups, etc. had that same practice of sending the miscreants to training and then moving them to another location. In recent years, this has become better known, but it appears few (if any) people use this as a reason to decide to give up on education or even a sport/hobby. People often say this is the number one reason they left the Catholic Church. That seems as logical as saying, I came across one bad apple, so I'll never again eat an apple.

 

[Maxdeath]

Talk about believing whatever one wants! (Re-read your posts.) Actually, I am fully accepting of your perspective and decisions, so I regret you miss that. I am genuinely interested in why people give up God and His Ways. You say, that for you, it is because they observe some don't (yet) have it right. You seem unforgiving towards them, and fully forgiving of self. In any decision, there are pros and cons. Second, one of the first beefs you said you had about the Catholic Church is that they tossed some books out of the Bible. That really bugged you, when the fact is that it is the Catholic Church who kept them all.

You then say people act one way in Church and another way outside of Church. Does it occur to you, that the way one acts in church is limited? Have you noticed, that people can act one way inside a museum of great art and totally different when they are at the zoo? Your posts are hard on people. Does this mean you are hard on people in your daily life?

The other point that interests me when people give up faith, religion, church is whether it happens gradually, almost unnoticeably, or whether there was there an event or a moment of clarity. So, yes, your decisions do interest me, but thus far I find them difficult to understand.

You are more on the defensive then actually understanding why I decided not to be a part of the Catholic Church.
I never said anything about giving up on God. You decided that by yourself. Look at what you wrote to ding or some of the replies to me and you will find intolerance, an inability of acceptance of another. Which is fine you do you. You will be the one who will be required to account for your life.
I wish you all the best

 

[Meriweather]

You are more on the defensive then actually understanding why I decided not to be a part of the Catholic Church.
I never said anything about giving up on God. You decided that by yourself. Look at what you wrote to ding or some of the replies to me and you will find intolerance, an inability of acceptance of another. Which is fine you do you. You will be the one who will be required to account for your life.
I wish you all the best

First, observations are not being "defensive" and "intolerant". Therefore, it is you who prefer to view me that way, when I have assured you several times I am genuinely interested. Perhaps if you quote the sentences you view as either defensive or intolerant. I understand you do not know me or my history. I am from a large family of Protestants, Catholics, Buddhists, and atheists. (Both my grandmother and I married atheists.) Therefore, my interest in how/why people come to believe (or not believe) as they do. Thus far, you have shared nothing of this--only why you cannot tolerate the Catholic Church including priests and parishioners.

No. If you wished me "all the best" you wouldn't run from a discussion that truly interests me. Your choice, and I do respect that. Just know, it is not me you think you have been speaking with; rather someone you created in your own mind. I am not your imaginings.

 

[BreezeWood]

I am genuinely interested in why people give up God and His Ways.

you in fact hide behind the heavens when the truth is obvious, the christian bible all three desert religions are what are found to be lacking and not the underlying message jesus taught of self determination and liberation theology as the means for admission to the everlasting.