Walking in the morning while being black.

[progressive hunter]

You are a bitter lib who does not understand or appreciate how important the police are to your safety

I am a constitutionalist that believes our rights come from our creator and no government agent has a right to stomp on those rights,,

youre authoritarian view that cops can beat innocent people in the streets in front of their children is the leftist ideology,,

 

[Couchpotato]

I understand

According to OK law the cops are expected to prevent crime but are not give the tools they need

If the police officer can reasonable articulate a crime he believes a person has committed he can require the ID. At least that’s the way the law reads in most states. Thes cops didn’t even try to do that. In fact the dumb ass to put the guy in cuffs said he was placing him under arrest BECAUSE he wouldn’t identify himself which typically is specifically forbidden in these types of laws.

 

[progressive hunter]

We are back to the crazy lib desire for no police force

I want a police force that supports the constitution they swore an oath too,,

you want a jackboot force that beats up innocent people in front of their children,,

 

[Couchpotato]

We are back to the crazy lib desire for no police force

Yes expecting the police to act within the bounds of the law equals defund the police.

 

[Yarddog]

Cop was an IDIOT. He could have asked the guy his name and address and had it verrified in a few minutes.
Then he could have been on his way, but even that should not be necessary.

 

[progressive hunter]

Cop was an IDIOT. He could have asked the guy his name and address and had it verrified in a few minutes.
Then he could have been on his way, but even that should not be necessary.

he can ask,, the guy had no legal responsibility to give it,,

 

[Mac-7]

I am a constitutionalist that believes our rights come from our creator and no government agent has a right to stomp on those rights,,

Yeah sure

I think so too

But identifying yourself to a police officer in the line of duty is no threat to liberty

 

[progressive hunter]

Yeah sure

I think so too

But identifying yourself to a police officer in the line of duty is no threat to liberty

but demanding he provide ID when no crime has been committed is threat to liberty and why we have it written down in the constitution,,

next time you call someone else a lib/leftist you should look in a mirror,,

cause your position on this case is pure leftist nazi bullshit,,

 

[Mac-7]

If the police officer can reasonable articulate a crime he believes a person has committed he can require the ID. At least that’s the way the law reads in most states. Thes cops didn’t even try to do that. In fact the dumb ass to put the guy in cuffs said he was placing him under arrest BECAUSE he wouldn’t identify himself which typically is specifically forbidden in these types of laws.

You are flogging a dead horse

I agree that the cop was impatient and should have used better proceedure

But your overreaction is no better than the cop’s

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Of course it's excessive. There will always be outlier Cops who don't belong on the force. We don't see "viral videos" of the 99 percent of Cops who do a good job and risk their lives to keep citizens safe.

This^


For whatever reason, the police are singled out. What about the teachers who abuse children. What about the doctors who abuse their patients. They are in positions of power. Same as cops. But cops get singled out.

 

[progressive hunter]

You are flogging a dead horse

I agree that the cop was impatient and should have used better proceedure

But your overreaction is no better than the cop’s

youre the one over reacting,,

the cop was not just over reacting he was pissing on the very constitution he swore an oath to prtect and defend,, and he did it in front of the guys kid,,

what do you think that kid will think of cops after this??

 

[progressive hunter]

This^


For whatever reason, the police are singled out. What about the teachers who abuse children. What about the doctors who abuse their patients. They are in positions of power. Same as cops. But cops get singled out.

why are you trying to deflect from a cop beating up an innocent man in front of his child??

 

[Mac-7]

but demanding he provide ID when no crime has been committed is threat to liberty and why we have it written down in the constitution,

The cops have authority to detain a suspect till they can establish is identity if they have a reason to be suspicious

That is a protection of everyone

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

why are you trying to deflect from a cop beating up an innocent man in front of his child??

There is no deflection. I don’t approve of what that individual cop did. Although if a police officer asks me for my name, I will absolutely give it to him. I don’t have anything to hide.

The point was clear. These topics are given way too much attention and sensation by the media. Again teachers, doctors people in similar positions of power who have social trust have abused their students and patients .

The overwhelming majority of police in America are good people. Hell most Americans are good people. We don’t need to defund the police or start hating on the police for the actions of an individual few officers.

 

[Mac-7]

youre the one over reacting,,

the cop was not just over reacting he was pissing on the very constitution he swore an oath to prtect and defend,, and he did it in front of the guys kid,,

what do you think that kid will think of cops after this??

No you are the one going ballistic

 

[progressive hunter]

The cops have authority to detain a suspect till they can establish is identity if they have a reason to be suspicious

That is a protection of everyone

no they do not,,

only if a crime has been committed can they do that,,

they can ask but they cant demand,,

they sure the fuck cant beat up an innocent man in front of his child,,

they swore an oath to this and he pissed all over that oath,,

you may be thinking of nazi germany where they could stop anyone and demand papers,,

 

[progressive hunter]

There is no deflection. I don’t approve of what that individual cop did. Although if a police officer asks me for my name, I will absolutely give it to him. I don’t have anything to hide.

The point was clear. These topics are given way too much attention and sensation by the media. Again teachers, doctors people in similar positions of power who have social trust have abused their students and patients .

The overwhelming majority of police in America are good people. Hell most Americans are good people. We don’t need to defund the police or start hating on the police for the actions of an individual few officers.

again with the deflection,,

becuse no crime was committed this guy had no legal obligation to tell the cop anything,,

 

[progressive hunter]

No you are the one going ballistic

yes I am,, in the defense of the constitution and against a bad cop that pissed all over it and his sworn oath,,

what youre doing is saying we are nazi germany in the 1930s where anyone can be stopped and papers demanded from them for no reason,,

 

[Couchpotato]

The cops have authority to detain a suspect till they can establish is identity if they have a reason to be suspicious

That is a protection of everyone

That’s where you are wrong.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

again with the deflection,,

becuse no crime was committed this guy had no legal obligation to tell the cop anything,,

There is no deflection. I’ve made two separate points.

The first point is I think the cop probably could’ve done better. But again to that point I would show my ID to a police officer or tell him my name because I don’t have anything to hide. And I want a better society. I want to society where there’s as little crime as possible. I want to do my part. We should have good positive relations and trust between citizens and police officers.

Here’s the second point Ask yourself why don’t you see the left-wing media concentrating so much on bad teachers or bad doctors. Police get a bad wrap because apparently it’s popular the left wing