Zone1 Wake-up call: This is what happens when Christians are afraid to offend

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Wake-up call: This is what happens when Christians are afraid to offend | Blaze Media

A church that’s afraid to offend cannot save, command allegiance, inspire sacrifice, or offer truth.

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A new Pew study suggests the steep decline in Christianity is finally “leveling off,” as if that’s a cause for celebration. It’s not. The damage is done. Entire generations have grown up with no real catechesis, no spiritual formation, and no sense of the sacred.

But make no mistake: This isn’t happening because the church refused to modernize. It’s happening because it did.

For decades, the great institutions of Western Christianity traded clarity for relevance and truth for tone. Sermons stopped warning and started pandering. The word “sin” was quietly retired, considered too sharp for modern ears. In its place came talk of “journeys,” “growth,” and whatever else kept the collection plate full. The church, once feared by tyrants and hated by the powerful, rebranded itself as a wellness center with great art.


The cross became a prop. The sacraments became optional. The faith became a product: Clean, inoffensive, entirely forgettable.

I see this all the time. Entire churches will not even discuss the Leftist gender cult, for example, as they bury their heads in the sand pretending that the world going on around them does not really exist because they are too scared to take a stand one way or the other.

 

[pknopp]

and Jesus rose and spoke his mighty words church, go out and offend

 

[theHawk]

and Jesus rose and spoke his mighty words church, go out and offend

Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. -Matthew 10:34

 

[pknopp]

Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. -Matthew 10:34

That wasn't a call for violence or anything of the sort. Jesus was saying that not everyone will accept his words and that will bring about conflict.

 

[onefour1]

There are many in the world today that wish for Christianity to adopted homosexuality which according to Bible is an abomination in the eyes of God. Being too nice or accepting can lead some to go against God in the name of being kind. It is like befriending the serial killer and inviting him into your home to give him/her a place to rest and get food but then finding out that your entire family has been murdered. Kindness in the gospel is not sacrificing the laws of God and your morals just to be a nice person. The kindest thing you can do is to enforce the laws of God and protect you and your family from potential corruption.

 

[pknopp]

There are many in the world today that wish for Christianity to adopted homosexuality which according to Bible is an abomination in the eyes of God.

They've accepted adultery.

Being too nice or accepting can lead some to go against God in the name of being kind. It is like befriending the serial killer and inviting him into your home to give him/her a place to rest and get food but then finding out that your entire family has been murdered. Kindness in the gospel is not sacrificing the laws of God and your morals just to be a nice person. The kindest thing you can do is to enforce the laws of God and protect you and your family from potential corruption.

Homosexual wasn't even in a Bible until 1946.

Has 'Homosexual' Always Been in the Bible?

A scholar uncovers evidence that the Greek word translated as "homosexual" in modern versions of the Bible actually meant something quite different to its originators.

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Jesus said that not all people were born the same unlike what many will argue.

Matthew 19:12

 

[IM2]

Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. -Matthew 10:34

He didn't come to bring bigotry.

 

[onefour1]

They've accepted adultery.

Unfortunately!!

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Homosexual wasn't even in a Bible until 1946.

Has 'Homosexual' Always Been in the Bible?

A scholar uncovers evidence that the Greek word translated as "homosexual" in modern versions of the Bible actually meant something quite different to its originators.

um-insight.net

Jesus said that not all people were born the same unlike what many will argue.

Matthew 19:12

That may be true for the word, "Homosexual" but the concept has been there from the time of the Old testament.

Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:24-32
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

They even named the sin Sodomy after a city of the same name.

 

[pknopp]

Unfortunately!!

That may be true for the word, "Homosexual" but the concept has been there from the time of the Old testament.

Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:24-32
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

They even named the sin Sodomy after a city of the same name.

Again, a recent translation. The original words did not translate to homosexual.

Look it up.

 

[onefour1]

Again, a recent translation. The original words did not translate to homosexual.

Look it up.

I didn't say it translated to the word, "homosexual". Read my last post again. The act of homosexuality is described as being an abomination and is described all through the Bible.

Here is the translation from the original Hebrew: Leviticus 20:13 Interlinear: And a man who lieth with a male as one lieth with a woman; abomination both of them have done; they are certainly put to death; their blood is on them.

Here is the translation from the original Greek: Romans 1:24 Interlinear: Wherefore also God did give them up, in the desires of their hearts, to uncleanness, to dishonour their bodies among themselves;

Romans 1:24 Interlinear: Wherefore also God did give them up, in the desires of their hearts, to uncleanness, to dishonour their bodies among themselves;

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Romans 1:25 Interlinear: who did change the truth of God into a falsehood, and did honour and serve the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed to the ages. Amen.

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Romans 1:26 Interlinear: Because of this did God give them up to dishonourable affections, for even their females did change the natural use into that against nature;

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Romans 1:27 Interlinear: and in like manner also the males having left the natural use of the female, did burn in their longing toward one another; males with males working shame, and the recompense of their error that was fit, in themselves receivin

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Romans 1:28 Interlinear: And, according as they did not approve of having God in knowledge, God gave them up to a disapproved mind, to do the things not seemly;

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Romans 1:29 Interlinear: having been filled with all unrighteousness, whoredom, wickedness, covetousness, malice; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil dispositions; whisperers,

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Romans 1:30 Interlinear: evil-speakers, God-haters, insulting, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

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Romans 1:31 Interlinear: unintelligent, faithless, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful;

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Romans 1:32 Interlinear: who the righteous judgment of God having known -- that those practising such things are worthy of death -- not only do them, but also have delight with those practising them.

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[pknopp]

Here is the translation from the original Hebrew: Leviticus 20:13 Interlinear: And a man who lieth with a male as one lieth with a woman; abomination both of them have done; they are certainly put to death; their blood is on them.

Here is the translation from the original Greek: Romans 1:24 Interlinear: Wherefore also God did give them up, in the desires of their hearts, to uncleanness, to dishonour their bodies among themselves;

Romans 1:24 Interlinear: Wherefore also God did give them up, in the desires of their hearts, to uncleanness, to dishonour their bodies among themselves;

biblehub.com

Romans 1:25 Interlinear: who did change the truth of God into a falsehood, and did honour and serve the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed to the ages. Amen.

biblehub.com

Romans 1:26 Interlinear: Because of this did God give them up to dishonourable affections, for even their females did change the natural use into that against nature;

biblehub.com

Romans 1:27 Interlinear: and in like manner also the males having left the natural use of the female, did burn in their longing toward one another; males with males working shame, and the recompense of their error that was fit, in themselves receivin

biblehub.com

Romans 1:28 Interlinear: And, according as they did not approve of having God in knowledge, God gave them up to a disapproved mind, to do the things not seemly;

biblehub.com

Romans 1:29 Interlinear: having been filled with all unrighteousness, whoredom, wickedness, covetousness, malice; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil dispositions; whisperers,

biblehub.com

Romans 1:30 Interlinear: evil-speakers, God-haters, insulting, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

biblehub.com

Romans 1:31 Interlinear: unintelligent, faithless, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful;

biblehub.com

Romans 1:32 Interlinear: who the righteous judgment of God having known -- that those practising such things are worthy of death -- not only do them, but also have delight with those practising them.

biblehub.com

Original word. It wasnt homosexual.

 

[theHawk]

That wasn't a call for violence or anything of the sort. Jesus was saying that not everyone will accept his words and that will bring about conflict.

Which is relevant to the OP and your comment.

 

[theHawk]

Original word. It wasnt homosexual.

Everyone knows what man laying with man is.

 

[pknopp]

Everyone knows what man laying with man is.

And that isn't the original wording.

 

[theHawk]

And that isn't the original wording.

You’re lying.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Wake-up call: This is what happens when Christians are afraid to offend | Blaze Media

A church that’s afraid to offend cannot save, command allegiance, inspire sacrifice, or offer truth.

www.theblaze.com

A new Pew study suggests the steep decline in Christianity is finally “leveling off,” as if that’s a cause for celebration. It’s not. The damage is done. Entire generations have grown up with no real catechesis, no spiritual formation, and no sense of the sacred.

But make no mistake: This isn’t happening because the church refused to modernize. It’s happening because it did.

For decades, the great institutions of Western Christianity traded clarity for relevance and truth for tone. Sermons stopped warning and started pandering. The word “sin” was quietly retired, considered too sharp for modern ears. In its place came talk of “journeys,” “growth,” and whatever else kept the collection plate full. The church, once feared by tyrants and hated by the powerful, rebranded itself as a wellness center with great art.


The cross became a prop. The sacraments became optional. The faith became a product: Clean, inoffensive, entirely forgettable.

I see this all the time. Entire churches will not even discuss the Leftist gender cult, for example, as they bury their heads in the sand pretending that the world going on around them does not really exist because they are too scared to take a stand one way or the other.

By all means, let's go back to the days when Negros and women knew their place under the thumb of white males. Or maybe further back when the church ruled the entire world and made laws against blasphemy to show humanity that "God" didn't like to be criticized or questioned. Torture in the town square for posts that question his existence should straighten society out. Also, no more divorces or marriage outside of Catholicism and people need to be made to have more babies because God loves that and it brings more souls to heaven. A law could be made that women must have at least 6 children. I think we could then go back to slavery to help the economy. Why pay them anything at all. There are laws in the bible where god said you can beat them into submission and bequeath them as part of your estate. Christians are too modern today. They adopted secular morals. This needs to stop so that God's plan will be done.

 

[Zebra]

There are many in the world today that wish for Christianity to adopted homosexuality which according to Bible is an abomination in the eyes of God. Being too nice or accepting can lead some to go against God in the name of being kind. It is like befriending the serial killer and inviting him into your home to give him/her a place to rest and get food but then finding out that your entire family has been murdered. Kindness in the gospel is not sacrificing the laws of God and your morals just to be a nice person. The kindest thing you can do is to enforce the laws of God and protect you and your family from potential corruption.

really an abomination?

 

[Mac-7]

There are going to be a lot of lost souls on Judgement Day

And all of them were warned but chose to ignore

 

[DStar777]

Again, a recent translation. The original words did not translate to homosexual.

Way to miss the point. What the passages quoted describe is what we now deem ' homosexual ' acts.
Romans 1:27 is quite clear:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

really an abomination?

Yep. Cause it’s in the Bible and that is what he was taught.