W VA Chem Spill... Get ready for a new Attack on Coal by Obama and the Left

[Antares]

Train cars full of solar energy never derail.

...and solar energy isn't viable.....but go on in your delusions.

 

[hazlnut]

West Virginia chemical spill cuts water to up to 300,000, state of emergency declared - U.S. News

They better get into the Rural Areas and make sure people know directly.

Okay. I'm ready for the "new attack on coal"….

Meanwhile could we help those people out and stop playing politics.

 

[bripat9643]

Why don't you try it? But wait - not just you.

Let's say you have a family - a wife, 3 children under the age of 6, including an infant and a toddler. Let's say you also are a farmer running maybe 30 cattle through the winter. And, your aged grandmother is in a local nursing home. How much bottled water will it take to handle all that? How about milking the cows, sanitizing the equipment and hosing out manure? How about keeping the kids at least somewhat clean - especially an infant? Cattle take A LOT of water - you don't have it running on your property so how are you going to keep the tanks filled? It's not like your pipes froze so you can borrow from your neighbor until you can get them thawed and fixed - he doesn't have any either. And none of you know how long this is going to last or if there will be long term issues.

Easy peasy. What a bunch of whiners.

If you live on a farm, then you're probably getting your water from a well. You scenario is implausible.

Get a clue. No one said it's not terribly inconvenient. Having a hurricane blow your entire neighborhood away is also inconvenient. However, no one was even injured in this incident. It's not a huge tragedy.

Get a clue. Not all our farms get water from a well. Add to that there is no information on what effect that might be on underground water systems that feed a well. Not everyone has a deep well, my friends for example get there water from a surface well.

Get a clue: If any of a farmer's livestock or crops die because of this spill, then he can sue the company that caused it. Furthermore, a smart farmer could simply call some company in the next town and pay to have a tanker truck with all the water he needs drive to his farm.

You act as if these people are helpless.

It is a huge tragedy - if you are there - because you are dealing with a spill effecting a huge portion of the Elk River and it's watershed,

To me, it's a huge tragedy if I slip on a banana peel. However, intelligent people are capable of looking at the larger picture.

no one actually knows what a toxic or safe level for this compound is, no one knows how long it will remain in the waterways or what the long term effect is.

I seriously doubt that.

Sure - it's not like a tsunami or tornado. But it's not just an "inconvenience" - not if it effects *you*.

Hmmmm, yes it is.

 

[bripat9643]

West Virginia chemical spill cuts water to up to 300,000, state of emergency declared - U.S. News

They better get into the Rural Areas and make sure people know directly.

Okay. I'm ready for the "new attack on coal"….

Meanwhile could we help those people out and stop playing politics.

Perhaps we could if you stopped playing politics.

 

[zeke]

Wheres the free market with their super duper cost effective solutions?

Correct, the free market generally does come up with a cost effective solution.

Yea right. A "free market" chemical storage company found a way to create the tragedy.
The current and previous owners were both aware that the chemical holding tanks were deteriorating and posing a danger.

Of course the coal lobby of WV will be found to have made it possible to locate a chemical storage planet 5 miles up river of a drinking water treatment plant for 300k people.

Yes sir that vaunted free market capitalism strikes again.

So what solution have they come up with briar patty?

 

[candycorn]

Kennedy filed for bankruptcy in 2005 after he was charged with tax evasion and willful failure to pay employees' withholdings to the government. He pleaded guilty to both charges in U.S. District Court in the Southern District of West Virginia.

He admitted that between 2000 and 2003, while he was the accountant for Freedom Industries, Poca Blending and New River Chemical Co., he withheld more than $1 million from employee paychecks that he never passed on to the federal government, according to court filings. He also owed more than $200,000 in state taxes.

"Carl L. Kennedy II took steps to conceal a large portion of his income from the Internal Revenue Service by, among other things, using his position as an accountant to ensure a W2 form was not filed in his name," the court document reads, "using corporate funds for his personal benefit and writing corporate checks to cash for his personal enrichment."

He was sentenced to more than three years in prison, but had his sentence cut almost in half after he cooperated with authorities by making controlled cocaine buys and wearing a wire in conversations with a former business associate.

Could you imagine such a guy running a nuke plant? This is why we need air-tight oversight on these matters.

More at the source: - - The Charleston Gazette - West Virginia News and Sports -

Can you imagine these people running a nuclear plant?

Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) pleaded guilty on February 20, 2013 to one count of wire and mail fraud in connection with his misuse of $750,000 of campaign funds. In August 2013 Jackson was sentenced to two and half years imprisonment.

Thomas Porteous (D) The Federal Judge of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana was impeached, convicted and removed from office on December 8, 2010 on charges of bribery and lying to Congress. He had been appointed to office by Bill Clinton in 1994. (2010)

William J. Jefferson (D-LA) in August 2005 the FBI seized $90,000 in cash from Jefferson's home freezer. He was re-elected anyway, but lost in 2008. He was convicted of 11 counts of bribery and sentenced to 13 years in prison on November 13, 2009.[15] Jefferson's Chief of Staff Brett Pfeffer, was sentenced to 84 months for bribery. (2006)

Jim Traficant (D-OH) found guilty on 10 felony counts of financial corruption was sentenced to 8 years in prison and expelled from the US House of Representatives. (2002)

Frank Ballance (D-NC) admitted to federal charges of money laundering and mail fraud in October 2005 and was sentenced to 4 years in prison.

Wade Sanders (D), Deputy Assistant United States Secretary of the Navy, for Reserve Affairs, was sentenced to 37 months in prison on one charge of possession of child pornography. (2009)

Mel Reynolds (D-IL) was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. (1997) Was later convicted of 12 counts of bank fraud. (1999)

Walter R. Tucker III (D-CA) was sentenced to 27 months in prison in 1996 for extortion and tax evasion. (1995)

Yeah, which is why I want the finest military machine ever assembled--the US Navy--to run it instead of people like Scooter Libby

 

[candycorn]

Wheres the free market with their super duper cost effective solutions?

Correct, the free market generally does come up with a cost effective solution.

Yea right. A "free market" chemical storage company found a way to create the tragedy.
The current and previous owners were both aware that the chemical holding tanks were deteriorating and posing a danger.

Of course the coal lobby of WV will be found to have made it possible to locate a chemical storage planet 5 miles up river of a drinking water treatment plant for 300k people.

Yes sir that vaunted free market capitalism strikes again.

So what solution have they come up with briar patty?

From what I'm hearing, it's a bunch of national guardsmen and women (aka tax dollars) doing the work...basically it's another government bail out for the rich but we can't characterize it as that; can we?

 

[zeke]

Correct, the free market generally does come up with a cost effective solution.

Yea right. A "free market" chemical storage company found a way to create the tragedy.
The current and previous owners were both aware that the chemical holding tanks were deteriorating and posing a danger.

Of course the coal lobby of WV will be found to have made it possible to locate a chemical storage planet 5 miles up river of a drinking water treatment plant for 300k people.

Yes sir that vaunted free market capitalism strikes again.

So what solution have they come up with briar patty?

From what I'm hearing, it's a bunch of national guardsmen and women (aka tax dollars) doing the work...basically it's another government bail out for the rich but we can't characterize it as that; can we?

The coal industry and their friends have always been able to do that most special thing that rich people get by with; socialize the loss and privatize the gain. They have struck again.

Where is briar patty to defend the free market solutions?

 

[bripat9643]

Could you imagine such a guy running a nuke plant? This is why we need air-tight oversight on these matters.

More at the source: - - The Charleston Gazette - West Virginia News and Sports -

Can you imagine these people running a nuclear plant?

Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) pleaded guilty on February 20, 2013 to one count of wire and mail fraud in connection with his misuse of $750,000 of campaign funds. In August 2013 Jackson was sentenced to two and half years imprisonment.

Thomas Porteous (D) The Federal Judge of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana was impeached, convicted and removed from office on December 8, 2010 on charges of bribery and lying to Congress. He had been appointed to office by Bill Clinton in 1994. (2010)

William J. Jefferson (D-LA) in August 2005 the FBI seized $90,000 in cash from Jefferson's home freezer. He was re-elected anyway, but lost in 2008. He was convicted of 11 counts of bribery and sentenced to 13 years in prison on November 13, 2009.[15] Jefferson's Chief of Staff Brett Pfeffer, was sentenced to 84 months for bribery. (2006)

Jim Traficant (D-OH) found guilty on 10 felony counts of financial corruption was sentenced to 8 years in prison and expelled from the US House of Representatives. (2002)

Frank Ballance (D-NC) admitted to federal charges of money laundering and mail fraud in October 2005 and was sentenced to 4 years in prison.

Wade Sanders (D), Deputy Assistant United States Secretary of the Navy, for Reserve Affairs, was sentenced to 37 months in prison on one charge of possession of child pornography. (2009)

Mel Reynolds (D-IL) was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. (1997) Was later convicted of 12 counts of bank fraud. (1999)

Walter R. Tucker III (D-CA) was sentenced to 27 months in prison in 1996 for extortion and tax evasion. (1995)

Yeah, which is why I want the finest military machine ever assembled--the US Navy--to run it instead of people like Scooter Libby

You mean the one with 2 nuclear subs lying at the bottom of the ocean?

The one that shelled our own troops during WW II?

The one that had two aircraft carriers catch on fire and burn for days during the Vietnam war?

The one that had a nuclear submarine collide with an amphibious transport dock?

The one that had two destroyers collide in the Straights of Hormuz?

The one that had a nuclear submarine crash into an Aegis missile cruiser?

The one that had an amphibious assault ship collide with a fleet replenishment oiler?

The one that had one of its battleships spontaneously blow up in Havana harbor?

The one that had a patrol boat spontaneously blow up in San Diego harbor?

That navy?

 

[Coyote]

If you live on a farm, then you're probably getting your water from a well. You scenario is implausible.

Get a clue. No one said it's not terribly inconvenient. Having a hurricane blow your entire neighborhood away is also inconvenient. However, no one was even injured in this incident. It's not a huge tragedy.

Get a clue. Not all our farms get water from a well. Add to that there is no information on what effect that might be on underground water systems that feed a well. Not everyone has a deep well, my friends for example get there water from a surface well.

Get a clue: If any of a farmer's livestock or crops die because of this spill, then he can sue the company that caused it. Furthermore, a smart farmer could simply call some company in the next town and pay to have a tanker truck with all the water he needs drive to his farm.

You're not a farmer are you?

This extends over multiple counties - 9 I think. Lawsuits can take years to work through the system.

To me, it's a huge tragedy if I slip on a banana peel. However, intelligent people are capable of looking at the larger picture.

True. Intelligent people realize that you slipping on a bananna peel is *not* the big picture and a chemical spill affecting 300,000 people might be a much bigger picture.

no one actually knows what a toxic or safe level for this compound is, no one knows how long it will remain in the waterways or what the long term effect is.

I seriously doubt that.

Not only are you not a farmer, you don't listen to the news much

 

[initforme]

What effect will that chemical have on the river and environment? I hope minimal but then again many chemicals we have are not tested enough for us to know the effect of them on the environment, or us. Sad. Spills should not be tolerated whatsoever.

 

[candycorn]

Can you imagine these people running a nuclear plant?

Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) pleaded guilty on February 20, 2013 to one count of wire and mail fraud in connection with his misuse of $750,000 of campaign funds. In August 2013 Jackson was sentenced to two and half years imprisonment.

Thomas Porteous (D) The Federal Judge of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana was impeached, convicted and removed from office on December 8, 2010 on charges of bribery and lying to Congress. He had been appointed to office by Bill Clinton in 1994. (2010)

William J. Jefferson (D-LA) in August 2005 the FBI seized $90,000 in cash from Jefferson's home freezer. He was re-elected anyway, but lost in 2008. He was convicted of 11 counts of bribery and sentenced to 13 years in prison on November 13, 2009.[15] Jefferson's Chief of Staff Brett Pfeffer, was sentenced to 84 months for bribery. (2006)

Jim Traficant (D-OH) found guilty on 10 felony counts of financial corruption was sentenced to 8 years in prison and expelled from the US House of Representatives. (2002)

Frank Ballance (D-NC) admitted to federal charges of money laundering and mail fraud in October 2005 and was sentenced to 4 years in prison.

Wade Sanders (D), Deputy Assistant United States Secretary of the Navy, for Reserve Affairs, was sentenced to 37 months in prison on one charge of possession of child pornography. (2009)

Mel Reynolds (D-IL) was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. (1997) Was later convicted of 12 counts of bank fraud. (1999)

Walter R. Tucker III (D-CA) was sentenced to 27 months in prison in 1996 for extortion and tax evasion. (1995)

Yeah, which is why I want the finest military machine ever assembled--the US Navy--to run it instead of people like Scooter Libby

You mean the one with 2 nuclear subs lying at the bottom of the ocean?

The one that shelled our own troops during WW II?

The one that had two aircraft carriers catch on fire and burn for days during the Vietnam war?

The one that had a nuclear submarine collide with an amphibious transport dock?

The one that had two destroyers collide in the Straights of Hormuz?

The one that had a nuclear submarine crash into an Aegis missile cruiser?

The one that had an amphibious assault ship collide with a fleet replenishment oiler?

The one that had one of its battleships spontaneously blow up in Havana harbor?

The one that had a patrol boat spontaneously blow up in San Diego harbor?

That navy?

Yes, that navy.

That you had to go back to 1898 is telling of just how bizarrely dense your opposition is. That you take the side of the polluters and say, "no biggie" (and will say the same for every incident listed below) is an even more brazenly idiotic stance.

Anyway, since you started it, here is a much more up-to-date-list (no where near as inclusive) of disasters by your buddies in the chemical industry where no corner is left uncut.

Energy industry[edit]


May 1962: The Centralia, Pennsylvania coal mine fire began, forcing the gradual evacuation of the Centralia borough. The fire continues to burn in the abandoned borough.

March 1967: The Torrey Canyon supertanker was shipwrecked off the west coast of Cornwall, England, causing an environmental disaster. This was the first major oil spill at sea.

August, 1975: The Banqiao Dam flooded in the Henan Province of China due to extraordinarily heavy rains and poor construction quality of the dam, which was built during Great Leap Forward. The flood immediately killed over 100,000 people, and another 150,000 died of subsequent epidemic diseases and famine, bringing the total death toll to around 250,000—making it the worst technical disaster ever.

March 16, 1978: The Amoco Cadiz, an VLCC owned by the company Amoco (now merged with BP) sank near the Northwest coasts of France, resulting in the spilling of 68,684,000 US Gallons of crude oil (1,635,000 barrels). This is the largest oil spill of its kind (spill from an oil tanker) in history.

March 28, 1979: Three Mile Island accident. Partial nuclear meltdown. Mechanical failures in the non-nuclear secondary system, followed by a stuck-open pilot-operated relief valve (PORV) in the primary system, allowed large amounts of reactor coolant to escape. Plant operators initially failed to recognize the loss of coolant, resulting in a partial meltdown. The reactor was brought under control but not before up to 481 PBq (13 million curies) of radioactive gases were released into the atmosphere.[1]

June 3, 1979: Ixtoc I oil spill. The Ixtoc I exploratory oil well suffered a blowout resulting in the third largest oil spill and the second largest accidental spill in history.

November 20, 1980: A Texaco oil rig drilled into a salt mine transforming the Lake Peigneur, a freshwater lake before the accident, into a salt water lake.

February 15, 1982: Newfoundland, Canada. The mobile offshore oil rig Ocean Ranger is struck by a rogue wave off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada and sinks with the loss of all 84 crew.

July 23, 1984: Romeoville, Illinois, Union Oil refinery explosion killed 19 people.

November 19, 1984: San Juanico Disaster, an explosion at a liquid petroleum gas tank farm killed hundreds and injured thousands in San Juanico, Mexico.

April 26, 1986: Chernobyl disaster. At the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in Prypiat, Ukraine a test on reactor number four goes out of control, resulting in a nuclear meltdown. The ensuing steam explosion and fire killed up to 50 people with estimates that there may be between 4,000 and several hundred thousand additional cancer deaths over time. Fallout could be detected as far away as Canada. The Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, covering portions of Belarus and Ukraine surrounding Prypiat, remains contaminated and mostly uninhabited. Prypiat itself was totally evacuated and remains as a ghost town.

May 5, 1988: Norco, Louisiana, Shell Oil refinery explosion after hydrocarbon gas escaped from a corroded pipe in a catalytic cracker and was ignited. Louisiana state police evacuated 2,800 residents from nearby neighborhoods. Seven workers were killed and 42 injured. The total cost arising from the Norco blast is estimated at US$ 706 million.

July 6, 1988: Piper Alpha disaster. An explosion and resulting fire on a North Sea oil production platform kills 167 men. Total insured loss is about US$ 3.4 billion. To date it is rated as the world's worst offshore oil disaster in terms both of lives lost and impact to industry.

March 24, 1989: Exxon Valdez oil spill. The Exxon Valdez, an oil tanker bound for Long Beach, California, hits Prince William Sound's Bligh Reef dumping an estimated minimum 10.8 million US gallons (40.9 million litres, or 250,000 barrels) of crude oil into the sea. It is considered to be one of the most devastating human-caused environmental disasters ever to occur in history.[2] 100,000 to as many as 250,000 seabirds died as well as at least 2,800 sea otters, approximately 12 river otters, 300 harbor seals, 247 bald eagles, and 22 orcas, and billions of salmon and herring eggs were destroyed.[3] Overall reductions in population have been seen in various ocean animals, including stunted growth in pink salmon populations.[4] Sea otters and ducks also showed higher death rate in following years, partially because they ingested prey from contaminated soil and from ingestion of oil residues on hair due to grooming.[5] The effects of the spill continue to be felt 20 years later.

March 23, 2005: Texas City Refinery explosion. An explosion occurred at a BP refinery in Texas City, Texas. It is the third largest refinery in the United States and one of the largest in the world, processing 433,000 barrels of crude oil per day and accounting for 3% of that nation's gasoline supply. Over 100 were injured, and 15 were confirmed dead, including employees of the Fluor Corporation as well as BP. BP has since accepted that its employees contributed to the accident. Several level indicators failed, leading to overfilling of a knock out drum, and light hydrocarbons concentrated at ground level throughout the area. A nearby running diesel truck set off the explosion.

December 11, 2005: Hertfordshire Oil Storage Terminal fire. A series of explosions at the Buncefield oil storage depot, described as the largest peacetime explosion in Europe, devastated the terminal and many surrounding properties. There were no fatalities. Total damages have been forecast as £750 million.

February 7, 2010: 2010 Connecticut power plant explosion. A large explosion occurred at a Kleen Energy Systems 620-megawatt, Siemens combined cycle gas- and oil- fired power plant in Middletown, Connecticut, United States. Preliminary reports attributed the cause of the explosion to a test of the plant's energy systems.[6] The plant was still under construction and scheduled to start supplying energy in June 2010.[7] The number of injuries was eventually established to be 27.[8] Five people died in the explosion.[9]

April 20, 2010: Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. 11 oil platform workers died in an explosion and fire that resulted in a massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, considered the largest offshore spill in U.S. history.[10]

March 2011: Fukushima I nuclear accidents in Japan. Regarded as the largest nuclear disaster since the Chernobyl disaster, there were no direct deaths but a few of the plant's workers were severely injured or killed by the disaster conditions resulting from the earthquake.

October 29, 2012: Hurricane Sandy caused a ConEdison power plant to explode, causing a blackout in most of Midtown Manhattan. The blue light emitted from the arc made places as far as Brooklyn glow. No person was killed or injured.

July 6, 2013: Lac-Mégantic, Quebec Canada. Lac-Mégantic derailment. Forty seven people were killed when there was a derailment of an oil shipment train. The oil shipment caught fire, exploded and more than thirty buildings were destroyed. It is the fourth deadliest rail accident in Canadian history.

Of course the list from Wiki left out the explosion last year in West, Texas, the most recent derailment in North Dakota and this business in West Virginia.

I'm sure you'll come back with some malarkey about this and that and the other...whatever dude. The Navy's record is superior to anything you want to bring up...

 

[AceRothstein]

Can you imagine these people running a nuclear plant?

Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) pleaded guilty on February 20, 2013 to one count of wire and mail fraud in connection with his misuse of $750,000 of campaign funds. In August 2013 Jackson was sentenced to two and half years imprisonment.

Thomas Porteous (D) The Federal Judge of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana was impeached, convicted and removed from office on December 8, 2010 on charges of bribery and lying to Congress. He had been appointed to office by Bill Clinton in 1994. (2010)

William J. Jefferson (D-LA) in August 2005 the FBI seized $90,000 in cash from Jefferson's home freezer. He was re-elected anyway, but lost in 2008. He was convicted of 11 counts of bribery and sentenced to 13 years in prison on November 13, 2009.[15] Jefferson's Chief of Staff Brett Pfeffer, was sentenced to 84 months for bribery. (2006)

Jim Traficant (D-OH) found guilty on 10 felony counts of financial corruption was sentenced to 8 years in prison and expelled from the US House of Representatives. (2002)

Frank Ballance (D-NC) admitted to federal charges of money laundering and mail fraud in October 2005 and was sentenced to 4 years in prison.

Wade Sanders (D), Deputy Assistant United States Secretary of the Navy, for Reserve Affairs, was sentenced to 37 months in prison on one charge of possession of child pornography. (2009)

Mel Reynolds (D-IL) was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. (1997) Was later convicted of 12 counts of bank fraud. (1999)

Walter R. Tucker III (D-CA) was sentenced to 27 months in prison in 1996 for extortion and tax evasion. (1995)

Yeah, which is why I want the finest military machine ever assembled--the US Navy--to run it instead of people like Scooter Libby

You mean the one with 2 nuclear subs lying at the bottom of the ocean?

The one that shelled our own troops during WW II?

The one that had two aircraft carriers catch on fire and burn for days during the Vietnam war?

The one that had a nuclear submarine collide with an amphibious transport dock?

The one that had two destroyers collide in the Straights of Hormuz?

The one that had a nuclear submarine crash into an Aegis missile cruiser?

The one that had an amphibious assault ship collide with a fleet replenishment oiler?

The one that had one of its battleships spontaneously blow up in Havana harbor?

The one that had a patrol boat spontaneously blow up in San Diego harbor?

That navy?

Why do you hate the troops? Why do you hate America?

 

[bripat9643]

Yeah, which is why I want the finest military machine ever assembled--the US Navy--to run it instead of people like Scooter Libby

You mean the one with 2 nuclear subs lying at the bottom of the ocean?

The one that shelled our own troops during WW II?

The one that had two aircraft carriers catch on fire and burn for days during the Vietnam war?

The one that had a nuclear submarine collide with an amphibious transport dock?

The one that had two destroyers collide in the Straights of Hormuz?

The one that had a nuclear submarine crash into an Aegis missile cruiser?

The one that had an amphibious assault ship collide with a fleet replenishment oiler?

The one that had one of its battleships spontaneously blow up in Havana harbor?

The one that had a patrol boat spontaneously blow up in San Diego harbor?

That navy?

Why do you hate the troops? Why do you hate America?

Why do you and candycorn hate American industry and American workers?

 

[candycorn]

Thanks, hopefully all are okay and water will be provided ASAP.

Thank you. I may be making a trip there to bring some of my family members here.

There is zero water there. I do know that the National guard is transporting water. Thank goodness, my family already had some bottled water.
Hospitals are in big trouble. They claim to have backup water resource, but it can only last so long.

They have to drink bottled water?

Oh, the horror!

Months after the spill, WVA was still on bottled water:

In Charleston things appear normal — businesses are open, the National Guard is gone, the tanker trucks of clean water are no longer idling in strip-mall parking lots — but scratch the surface and it's clear that the emergency is not over. Behind the counter at a café sit two five-gallon tanks of bottled water hooked up to the coffee machines. At a local eatery, when I order a soda, the bartender explains that it comes from the tap. "Are you sure you don't just want bottled water?" he asks. Grocery stores still can't keep their water shelves stocked. Talk to people on the street and you're told that no one drinks from the tap. Some people bathe in it, others use it to wash their clothes, but almost no one trusts it.

Read more: Inside the West Virginia Chemical Spill | Culture News | Rolling Stone
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

This from Last Month:
The Charleston Gazette | Pipe tests show ‘limited’ MCHM permeation

Subsequent research has found that residents reported an increase in health problems that appeared related to skin exposure or chemical inhalation following the flushing of their plumbing systems. - See more at: The Charleston Gazette | Pipe tests show ‘limited’ MCHM permeation

It's only your health, babies.

 

[bripat9643]

Thanks, hopefully all are okay and water will be provided ASAP.

Thank you. I may be making a trip there to bring some of my family members here.

There is zero water there. I do know that the National guard is transporting water. Thank goodness, my family already had some bottled water.
Hospitals are in big trouble. They claim to have backup water resource, but it can only last so long.

They have to drink bottled water?

Oh, the horror!

Months after the spill, WVA was still on bottled water:

In Charleston things appear normal — businesses are open, the National Guard is gone, the tanker trucks of clean water are no longer idling in strip-mall parking lots — but scratch the surface and it's clear that the emergency is not over. Behind the counter at a café sit two five-gallon tanks of bottled water hooked up to the coffee machines. At a local eatery, when I order a soda, the bartender explains that it comes from the tap. "Are you sure you don't just want bottled water?" he asks. Grocery stores still can't keep their water shelves stocked. Talk to people on the street and you're told that no one drinks from the tap. Some people bathe in it, others use it to wash their clothes, but almost no one trusts it.

Read more: Inside the West Virginia Chemical Spill | Culture News | Rolling Stone
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

This from Last Month:
The Charleston Gazette | Pipe tests show ‘limited’ MCHM permeation

Subsequent research has found that residents reported an increase in health problems that appeared related to skin exposure or chemical inhalation following the flushing of their plumbing systems. - See more at: The Charleston Gazette | Pipe tests show ‘limited’ MCHM permeation

It's only your health, babies.

In other words, the residents are paranoid. You haven't posted any objective reason why they should drink bottled water.

 

[candycorn]

Thanks, hopefully all are okay and water will be provided ASAP.

Thank you. I may be making a trip there to bring some of my family members here.

There is zero water there. I do know that the National guard is transporting water. Thank goodness, my family already had some bottled water.
Hospitals are in big trouble. They claim to have backup water resource, but it can only last so long.

They have to drink bottled water?

Oh, the horror!

Months after the spill, WVA was still on bottled water:

In Charleston things appear normal — businesses are open, the National Guard is gone, the tanker trucks of clean water are no longer idling in strip-mall parking lots — but scratch the surface and it's clear that the emergency is not over. Behind the counter at a café sit two five-gallon tanks of bottled water hooked up to the coffee machines. At a local eatery, when I order a soda, the bartender explains that it comes from the tap. "Are you sure you don't just want bottled water?" he asks. Grocery stores still can't keep their water shelves stocked. Talk to people on the street and you're told that no one drinks from the tap. Some people bathe in it, others use it to wash their clothes, but almost no one trusts it.

Read more: Inside the West Virginia Chemical Spill | Culture News | Rolling Stone
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

This from Last Month:
The Charleston Gazette | Pipe tests show ‘limited’ MCHM permeation

Subsequent research has found that residents reported an increase in health problems that appeared related to skin exposure or chemical inhalation following the flushing of their plumbing systems. - See more at: The Charleston Gazette | Pipe tests show ‘limited’ MCHM permeation

It's only your health, babies.

In other words, the residents are paranoid. You haven't posted any objective reason why they should drink bottled water.

Did you read the article? We both know you won't entertain any facts that will run counter to your world view that corporations are saints and the people are sinners so I have it posted below for you.

Subsequent research has found that residents reported an increase in health problems that appeared related to skin exposure or chemical inhalation following the flushing of their plumbing systems.

An increase in health problems from Paranoia? Yeah sure.

Anyway, the rest of the world can see what GOP governance gets us...corporations that pollute and endanger with total impunity from regulation since these "job creators" are necessary.

Unless they are union jobs; of course.

 

[candycorn]

 

[candycorn]

 

[TooTall]

Train cars full of solar energy never derail.

The Sun cannot shine at night ether.

Oh but it does. It shines 7/24.

Sounds like a good reason to build more windfarms.

Here is a reason NOT to build more windfarms.

According to the current literature somewhere between 140,000 and 328,000 birds die each year from collisions with wind turbines. That's not all, explains the blog Natural Reactions:

In addition, it appears that there is a greater risk of fatal collisions with taller turbines. This is a real problem, as larger wind turbines may provide more efficient energy generation. Consequently, it is expected that new wind farms will contain even bigger turbines, which will result in even more bird deaths. Future developments therefore will have to give very careful consideration to potential wildlife impacts when planning the type of turbine to install.


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