Vote Republican If You Want Equal Pay

[PoliticalChic]

Vote Republican If You Want Equal Pay - WSJ.com

Sen. Obama says that he wants equal pay for women. If the historical record is any guide, the best way to achieve this is to work for a labor market that creates opportunities for women like it did during the Reagan and the Bush years. At the Reagan-Bush years' pace, the gender wage gap in 2016 would be down to about 12%. At the Carter-Clinton years' pace, women will not see new opportunities, and the gender pay gap will be essentially where it is today.

 

[Shogun]

*yawn*

 

[jillian]

I think perhaps you need to recheck your history:

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
Syllabus
LEDBETTER v. GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER CO., INC.
CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE ELEVENTH CIRCUIT
No. 05–1074. Argued November 27, 2006—Decided May 29, 2007
During most of the time that petitioner Ledbetter was employed byrespondent Goodyear, salaried employees at the plant where sheworked were given or denied raises based on performance evalua-tions. Ledbetter submitted a questionnaire to the Equal EmploymentOpportunity Commission (EEOC) in March 1998 and a formal EEOCcharge in July 1998. After her November 1998 retirement, she filed suit, asserting, among other things, a sex discrimination claim underTitle VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The District Court allowed her Title VII pay discrimination claim to proceed to trial. There, Ledbetter alleged that several supervisors had in the past given her poor evaluations because of her sex; that as a result, her pay had not increased as much as it would have if she had been evaluated fairly;that those past pay decisions affected the amount of her pay through-out her employment; and that by the end of her employment, she wasearning significantly less than her male colleagues. Goodyear main-tained that the evaluations had been nondiscriminatory, but the juryfound for Ledbetter, awarding backpay and damages. On appeal, Goodyear contended that the pay discrimination claim was time barred with regard to all pay decisions made before September 26,1997—180 days before Ledbetter filed her EEOC questionnaire—and that no discriminatory act relating to her pay occurred after thatdate. The Eleventh Circuit reversed, holding that a Title VII pay dis-crimination claim cannot be based on allegedly discriminatory events that occurred before the last pay decision that affected the employee’s pay during the EEOC charging period, and concluding that there was insufficient evidence to prove that Goodyear had acted with discrimi-natory intent in making the only two pay decisions during that pe-riod, denials of raises in 1997 and 1998.

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/06pdf/05-1074.pdf

 

[PoliticalChic]

Vote Republican If You Want Equal Pay - WSJ.com

Sen. Obama says that he wants equal pay for women. If the historical record is any guide, the best way to achieve this is to work for a labor market that creates opportunities for women like it did during the Reagan and the Bush years. At the Reagan-Bush years' pace, the gender wage gap in 2016 would be down to about 12%. At the Carter-Clinton years' pace, women will not see new opportunities, and the gender pay gap will be essentially where it is today.

This doesn't refute what was stated. As a lawyer, you should know that one court case doesn't translate into a generalization.

 

[PoliticalChic]

*yawn*

Awww, did I wake you up from your afternoon nap. You can go back to sleep. I'll wake you up after the election...

 

[jillian]

This doesn't refute what was stated. As a lawyer, you should know that one court case doesn't translate into a generalization.

Actually, it does because that case is representative of the judicial philosophy of the Bush/McCain judges. And the ruling sets precedent for every other federal court in the country.

The "free market", which doesn't actually exist at all, does not assure equal pay.

 

[rayboyusmc]

Vote republican if you want to continue subsidizing the ultra rich and the corporations.

Why isn't distributing the wealth upward socialism?

 

[sealybobo]

Vote Republican If You Want Equal Pay - WSJ.com

Sen. Obama says that he wants equal pay for women. If the historical record is any guide, the best way to achieve this is to work for a labor market that creates opportunities for women like it did during the Reagan and the Bush years. At the Reagan-Bush years' pace, the gender wage gap in 2016 would be down to about 12%. At the Carter-Clinton years' pace, women will not see new opportunities, and the gender pay gap will be essentially where it is today.

Equal pay? Isn't that communism?

And what happened to the GOP position that the president doesn't do much? If anything happened during the Clinton years, wouldn't you blame Newt and the GOP Congress?

 

[strollingbones]

oddly enough mccain is against equal pay for women doing the same jobs..he said....that women need more education to get equal pay ...he ignored the fact these women were already doing the same job...that dog wont hunt here in nc...we know which party is keeping women down..the same party that thinks winky is a vivable candidate.

pissed over that....you bethca'

 

[strollingbones]

John McCain claimed today that he is determined to ensure "equal pay for equal work." But women's groups were quick to point out that the presumptive Republican nominee has announced his opposition to the
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act which seeks to do exactly that. The Arizona senator believes that the measure would "only serve to fatten the pockets of trial lawyers."

The Facts
Lilly Ledbetter was a Goodyear Tire employee who sued the company in 1998 after finding out that she was earning 40 percent less than male co-workers employed to do similar jobs. A federal judge in Birmingham, Ala, awarded her $360,000 in back pay, but the verdict was overturned on appeal. In May 2007, the Supreme Court ruled against Ledbetter in a 5-4 verdict. The justices ruled that employees who believe they have been discriminated against must file a complaint within 180 days with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

The Ledbetter bill, which passed the House last year and is now languishing before the Senate, removes the 180-day deadline. Supporters of the bill claim that it is usually impractical to file a complaint within 180 days as most companies are very secretive about salary data, and it can take years to establish a pattern of discrimination.

Back in April, McCain told reporters that he was "all in favor of equal pay" for women, but that there were better ways to help women find higher paying jobs. "They need the education and training, particularly since more and more women are heads of their households," he explained.

Asked to provide support for the senator's claim that he is committed to ensuring "equal pay for equal work," the McCain campaign cited several pieces of legislation that he has supported including the Older Workers Benefit Protection Act of 1989, which prohibits discrimination against older workers, the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, and the Family Medical Leave Act of 1993. However, none of these measures directly addresses the Ledbetter situation.

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said that the Ledbetter would "flood our already over-burdened court system and burden employers, who will have no choice but to charge consumers more for goods and services in order to pay for the swarm of new lawsuits that will only serve to fatten the pockets of trial lawyers."

The Pinocchio Test
The presumptive Republican nominee for president says that he is in favor of equal pay for equal work, but has yet to propose legislation that would achieve that goal. To oppose the Ledbetter act on the grounds that it will lead to a "swarm of new lawsuits," is fair enough, but John McCain has not proposed a realistic alternative.

McCain on equal pay - Fact Checker

 

[strollingbones]

show me where mccain has done anything for women.....if you think palin is a woman's woman check again....she is nothing more than a fall guy for the gop...

 

[Shogun]

Awww, did I wake you up from your afternoon nap. You can go back to sleep. I'll wake you up after the election...

I'm sure your whining and fit throwing will wake the dead on Nov 5. Hey, maybe a wave of last-ditch silly bullshit will make the pain of Mccain's loss sting a little less..

 

[jillian]

oddly enough mccain is against equal pay for women doing the same jobs..he said....that women need more education to get equal pay ...he ignored the fact these women were already doing the same job...that dog wont hunt here in nc...we know which party is keeping women down..the same party that thinks winky is a vivable candidate.

pissed over that....you bethca'

he also opposed the ledbetter fair pay act.

 

[del]

show me where mccain has done anything for women.....if you think palin is a woman's woman check again....she is nothing more than a fall guy for the gop...

what's obama done?

 

[jillian]

what's obama done?

he didn't oppose the ledbetter legislation, did he?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ladies, all this complaining about women not getting paid like men... Let's not forget, a lot of us including myself have either taken maternity leave or left the workforce temporarily to raise a family. Equal pay should be based on equal education, equal ability, and equal experience.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm sure your whining and fit throwing will wake the dead on Nov 5. Hey, maybe a wave of last-ditch silly bullshit will make the pain of Mccain's loss sting a little less..

Join us when you have something substantive to say.

 

[jillian]

Ladies, all this complaining about women not getting paid like men... Let's not forget, a lot of us including myself have either taken maternity leave or left the workforce temporarily to raise a family. Equal pay should be based on equal education, equal ability, and equal experience.

ledbetter wasn't talking about maternity leave and you know that. Ledbetter had more experience and more time on the job than the men who were being paid more than she was.

I know some women really hate women who work, but I, personally, never left the work force and I deserve to be paid commensurate with my knowledge and experience regardless of having two X chromosomes.

 

[del]

he didn't oppose the ledbetter legislation, did he?

no he didn't.

he also pays his female staffers 83 cents for every dollar he pays his male staffers.

he talks a good game.

Obama only talks a good game regarding gender-pay equity : Opinion : Ventura County Star

"Obama's commitment to federally mandated pay equity stretches from the Rockies to Wall Street and beyond. And, yet, it seems to have eluded his office. Compensation figures for his legislative staff reveal that Obama pays women just 83 cents for every dollar his men make.

A watchdog group called LegiStorm posts online the salaries for Capitol Hill staffers. "We have no political affiliations and no political purpose except to make the workings of Congress as transparent as possible," its Web site explains.

The most recent statistics are for the half-year from Oct. 1, 2007, to March 31, 2008, excluding interns and focusing on full-time personnel. For someone who worked only until, say, last Feb. 29, extrapolating up to six months' service simplifies this analysis. Doubling these half-year figures illustrates how a year's worth of Senate employees' paychecks should look.

Based on these calculations, Obama's 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama's average male employee earned $54,397. His 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average.

Why this disparity? One reason may be the under-representation of women in Obama's highest-compensated ranks. Among Obama's five best-paid advisers, only one was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women."

Senator Barack Obama (Illinois) - Staff salaries from LegiStorm

 

[strollingbones]

what's obama done?

dont you start.