So, you don't want to discuss what actually happened in your example, you just want to defer to the Jury?
Funny, I would think that if you really believed in your example, you would WANT to discuss the details of what actually happened to really rub my face in it, and really, really make the point...
BUt, you don't...
And, let us remember, that is your STRONGEST example to justify your claim, that the Proud Boys are "thugs"?
Oh, photos of them looking tough or using military style tactics? We weren't arguing that they were not tough or competent, the question was are the the "thugs" that attack people, or are the the people that defend themselves when attacked by the actual "thugs".
Funny how you lost the thread there.
REal funny.
This is where, if you were not a partisan hack, where you would admit that you were on the wrong side of this issue and renounce antifa and start asking questions about the Proud Boys, so you could learn the truth.