3. Post #6, left wing organizations responsible for actual violence, not imaginary threats, outside of presidential assassinations, including police and ordinary citizens.
Did I mention left wing?
All that still doesn't count for one fraction of all the violence the country has had, which you continue to claim is responsible from the left.
"tons more violence in our society over the decades than those assassins, where's your proof that the left was responsible for that? Oh wait you didn't bring any." covered
About as much as two drops of paint cover a wall.
"no statistics no numbers of any kind just talking about a handful of assassins over a span of many decades."
So, math isn't your strong suit either? Do you know how many Presidents there have been? Can you count the assassinations?
So, what kind of statistics do you need?
The political leanings of most murderers for starters, you want to pretend violence is only done by people on the left, show me that's so.
"...right-wing violence like say the recent abortion murders?"
I'm a rightwinger, bonehead, if there are such examples of right wing violence, that would be your job....No?
So you wish to ignore those right wing murderers for as long as possible? Figures.
1. "...doesn't count for one fraction of all the violence the country has had,.."
Where are your stats?
2. "...The political leanings of most murderers for starters..."
No wonder you can't produce a coherent post...it's not murderers and their political leanings...its those WITH political leanings, and whether these political assassins are left or right...
Can you see the difference?
I didn't think so.
3. "...So you wish to ignore those right wing murderers ..."
Another lacunae!!! The debate is to enforce one view or another....
Not both at once!
And- you have produced no data to support your side of the argument.,,,
How long have you been here????
Now, I know that this is beyond you, but for actual readers, let me show you the philosophical origins of violence as a political tool...and from whence it stems.
4. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a
French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired
Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with
his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered.
Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
5. . In his most famous work (1908), Sorel emphasized the
violent and irrational motivations of social and economic conduct (echoing Pareto in many ways). His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the
Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after.
Georges Sorel
6. In his best-known work,
Reflections on Violence (1908, tr. 1912), which became the basic text of syndicalism, Sorel expounded
his theory of "violence" as the creative power of the proletariat that could overcome "force," the coercive economic power of the bourgeoisie. He supported belief in myths about future social developments, arguing that such belief promoted social progress.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Georges_Sorel.aspx
So, you see it is at the very beginnings of leftist ideology that the need to incorporate violence was impressed by Sorel...further Mussolini incorporated the ideas of SorelÂ’s syndicalism to create his brand of fascism.
Syndicalism is similar to socialism but included violent, direction action.
I accept that you, Slimey, will be unable to see 4-5-and 6 as dispositive of the claim that it is the left that is the home for violence...simply claim that you didn't understand it. Anybody who reads your posts will believe it.
good lord, Ravi. The confederacy was DEMOCRATIC. Booth was as far left as possible in those times.
