Vindham Testified that He “Thought” President’s “Policy” Was Wrong--Advised Ukrainians to Ignore Him

[depotoo]

Your a ******* loon..

The PRESIDENT sets the agenda and they are required, by law, to follow his orders. They are NOT the policy setters. Vindham disobeyed orders and undermined the presidents orders because he disagreed. That is not his place and is tantamount to treason by a military officer.

Quit misusing the word treason.

What do you charge a person with when they disobey orders and attempt to subvert the policies of the sitting president by a military officer? Its called TREASON!

No it isn't. The definition given in the constitution says it's working on behalf of a foreign power to make war on America. At best he could charged with insubordination, if a military trial, which has an out for illegal orders. In a civilian court he's done nothing he can be charged with.

There is NOTHING illegal about what Trump was doing...

Your legal opinions are kind of retarded. Good thing actual lawyers work for the government. Trump is in trouble because he would not take their advice.

No, the non legal opinions that you listen to are. Any attorney not being paid off will tell you so.

 

[depotoo]

Just another example of responsible people valiantly trying to save the president from his worst impulses. The coming years will reveal many examples of the administration trying to operate within the law in spite of Trump. Trump is now experiencing what happens when you surround yourself with toadies and yes-men.

It is not the responsibility of the State Dept to save him from anything. There is a reason people elect a President, to see his agenda. If he falls flat on his face, so be it. You don’t like his policies and can’t convince him why? Resign. This was not a national security situation.

Wrong. The state department exists to insulate the president from his diplomatic mistakes and preventing him from doing anything illegal in the terribly complex sphere of international law. In the worst case scenario the president can blame the SoS for doing anything that might threaten his presidency. Trump fucked up trying to conduct foreign policy personally through the white house. He found protocol to be a hindrance and didn't seem to care that it protects him from what is happening right now.

Your a ******* loon..

The PRESIDENT sets the agenda and they are required, by law, to follow his orders. They are NOT the policy setters. Vindham disobeyed orders and undermined the presidents orders because he disagreed. That is not his place and is tantamount to treason by a military officer.

For starters the he is President not Dictator... The President is bound by the law. Are you saying the President is above the law?

Also, what orders did Vindham break?

Prove he broke any law.

 

[CowboyTed]

Wrong. The state department exists to insulate the president from his diplomatic mistakes and preventing him from doing anything illegal in the terribly complex sphere of international law. In the worst case scenario the president can blame the SoS for doing anything that might threaten his presidency. Trump fucked up trying to conduct foreign policy personally through the white house. He found protocol to be a hindrance and what 't seem to care that it protects him from what is happening right now.

Your a ******* loon..

The PRESIDENT sets the agenda and they are required, by law, to follow his orders. They are NOT the policy setters. Vindham disobeyed orders and undermined the presidents orders because he disagreed. That is not his place and is tantamount to treason by a military officer.

Quit misusing the word treason.

What do you charge a person with when they disobey orders and attempt to subvert the policies of the sitting president by a military officer? Its called TREASON!

No it isn't. The definition given in the constitution says it's working on behalf of a foreign power to make war on America. At best he could charged with insubordination, if a military trial, which has an out for illegal orders. In a civilian court he's done nothing he can be charged with.

There is NOTHING illegal about what Trump was doing...

So asking a foreign government to do something which benefits himself personally while refusing them aide...

That's soliciting a bribe...

 

[bullwinkle]

The fool acted unethically and interfered with his Commander in Chief dealing with the Ukrainians. This should be enough to court martial him.

HUGE! Schiff Witness Vindham Testified that He "Thought" President's "Policy" Was Wrong So He Advised Ukrainians to Ignore the President

Actually, Vindham was recommending staying within the law. I know you Little Trumpsters would kiss Trump's butt, no matter how many times Trump broke the law.
And here's an another law Trump broke, but then he, like you, think he is above the law.
Congressional Watchdog Reviewing Hold on Ukraine Aid

Lt. Col. Vinderman has violated UCMJ 94 & 106a – Sedition and Espionage respectively. These are both capital punishment offenses under the UCMJ.

I think you are wrong...dead wrong. Vindman went thru channels, was told when he brought up the issue to not speak about the action he considered an opening to dangerous repercussions, and ignored. When he did speak it was under subpoena, which he, unlike those wishing to hide the facts, answered.. as required by the Constitution.