....views on pardoning the J6 attackers ?....

[JWBooth]

no you didn't, you tried to post an insult and slander but you FAILED

Yep I did, perhaps clumsily, but that was the intent.

 

[Redfish]

Actually, you don’t need to prove the election was stolen in order to pardon the Jan 6 protestors. Many of them are guilty of no more than trespassing, and in some cases, we’re actually invited in.

Even the violent ones have served four years, and should be released.

The vast majority of them were simply american citizens who wanted the evidence of vote fraud to be presented to congress and the American public. Pence blocked it, why?

 

[Redfish]

Yep I did, perhaps clumsily, but that was the intent.

OK, nice admission.

 

[Meathead]

Why hasn't this already happened? Do you know? Do you care?

Because Biden hasn't done it. Anyone who physically attacked someone or destroyed property should face some penalty. In many cases time served should be sufficient. Others should be outright pardoned and their records expunged.

 

[Redfish]

Because Biden hasn't done it. Anyone who physically attacked someone or destroyed property should face some penalty. In many cases time served should be sufficient. Others should be outright pardoned and their records expunged.

correct, the dems needed to continue the lies about jan 6 for their political rhetoric

 

[Lisa558]

The vast majority of them were simply american citizens who wanted the evidence of vote fraud to be presented to congress and the American public. Pence blocked it, why?

Good question.

 

[Mac1958]

Should Don Trump pardon all of them?

I can't imagine anything that would make the base instantly swoon than Trump pardoning all the insurrectionists.

It's as easy call, no spending needed, it happens the same day, most of the populace won't give a shit.

Hell, I'd bet that at least one third of the country wouldn't even be able to tell you that anything happened that day. That's just where the country is.

 

[SeaMajor7]

I can't imagine anything that would make the base instantly swoon than Trump pardoning all the insurrectionists.

It's as easy call, no spending needed, it happens the same day, most of the populace won't give a shit.

Hell, I'd bet that at least one third of the country wouldn't even be able to tell you that anything happened that day. That's just where the country is.

There was no insurrection.

 

[Lisa558]

I can't imagine anything that would make the base instantly swoon than Trump pardoning all the insurrectionists.

It's as easy call, no spending needed, it happens the same day, most of the populace won't give a shit.

Hell, I'd bet that at least one third of the country wouldn't even be able to tell you that anything happened that day. That's just where the country is.

There were no insurrectionists. You thought that lie would win you the election, and it didn’t - and you’re still pushing it? Get a brain!

 

[martybegan]

there is no evidence of anyone doing that. I want to know why the capital cops escorted the people into the building and made no attempts to stop any of them. Also want to know why Pelosi rejected troops offered by Trump.

I'm sure there is.

Some of them were violent, many were not.

We need to pardon the non-violent ones.

 

[Redfish]

I'm sure there is.

Some of them were violent, many were not.

We need to pardon the non-violent ones.

I agree that anyone who injured another person or damaged public or private property should be prosecuted. The only injury anyone has rerported is the murder of Ashli Babbett. Are the capital cops guilty of dereliction of duty for allowing the people to enter the building and in fact escorting them?

 

[Foxfyre]

We all heard or watched Don Trump promise he would pardon all of the people arrested/jailed for their participation in the violent attempt to stop the transfer of power back in 2021. In fact he called them all "Patriots".

I believe somewhere near 1,500 have been convicted. How many of them went to jail, how many are still in jail....... I dunno at this time. Surely the big sentences for the Oathkeepers, Three Percenters, and Proud Boy contingent must still be in place? Hell, just three days ago one attacker was sentenced to eight years in prison (it was the bloke who smashed down the window so Ashli Babbitt could leap toward the police)

So, my questions: Will Trump pardon, exonerate, release ALL of those now behind bars?
Will he pardon all of those who were convicted but have already served their time and been released? Can he erase their felonies?

Are there some who should remain jailed and complete their sentences?

Should Don Trump pardon all of them?
Most especially those where there is ample verifiable video of violent criminal behavior?

In short, should any of them be pardoned? And why?

He will likely pardon all who were convicted of nothing more than rhetoric or just being there. I don't think he'll pardon those who committed actual assault and battery and the evidence is overwhelming that they are guilty. He might commute the sentences of some.commiting non lethal offenses.

 

[martybegan]

I agree that anyone who injured another person or damaged public or private property should be prosecuted. The only injury anyone has rerported is the murder of Ashli Babbett. Are the capital cops guilty of dereliction of duty for allowing the people to enter the building and in fact escorting them?

That's what we need an investigation for.

And honestly, they probably are over-prosecuting the property damage things as well.

 

[Lisa558]

She didn't have to die. She could've stayed home that day.

And Floyd didn’t have to die the day he did either. The violent ex-felon could have stayed home day, or not pass a counterfeit bill, or not defy police orders.

 

[Lisa558]

He will likely pardon all who were convicted of nothing more than rhetoric or just being there. I don't think he'll pardon those who committed actual assault and battery and the evidence is overwhelming that they are guilty. He might commute the sentences of some.commiting non lethal offenses.

Given how liberals have gone out of their way to keep violent offenders out of jail - the thugs in NYC have long, violent rap sheets, for example - I say that unless someone actually killed someone, the four years they’ve already served is sufficient.

All should be released. IMO.

 

[Foxfyre]

Given how liberals have gone out of their way to keep violent offenders out of jail - the thugs in NYC have long, violent rap sheets, for example - I say that unless someone actually killed someone, the four years they’ve already served is sufficient.

All should be released. IMO.

Oh me too. But I think Trump might commute the sentences of the relatively few actual offenders instead of giving full pardons.

 

[Lisa558]

Oh me too. But I think Trump might commute the sentences of the relatively few actual offenders instead of giving full pardons.

Yes, agree. I wasn’t thinking in terms of pardons - I was thinking in terms of release from prison.

Those who were mere trespassers should be pardoned, and those with assault convictions should have that remain on their record. ALL should sleep in their own homes the evening of January 20.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Prove you are right.
Tell us how many fall into the categories you describe.
Name names. Who are they.
Where are they located.
What are the crimes they are accused of? And in which court? Before which judges?

Don't mean to put you on the spot poster Redfish but there is the undeniable perception that you do not know your subject, That you haven't done your homework, your due diligence.
So, show us what you really know.

Thanks in advance.

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???? To be blunt with you poster Redfish the above allegation sorta kinda supports the suggestion above that you are uninformed and uneducated about the events of January 6th.
Prove to the forum that you do know what you are talking about.



The sedition convictions aganst members of the Oathkeepers and the ProudBoys were not that they were there to "overthrow-the-government".....in fact, they were there to KEEP the government then in power ....in power.

Their activities were intended to overthrow our Constitutional mandates. And thus seditious. Make 'em serve their full sentences that were levied after grand juries looked at the evidence, after full juries reviewed the evidence, and hear arguments of the prosecutors.....AND..... the defense. And they were convicted after all of that.

Trust the several juries of dozens of citizens who handed down indictments and convicted 'em. THAT....is the way of American jurisprudence.

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Ummmm?
Recall the earlier response to you Redfish?
The one that suggested you were uneducated and uninformed about the events of J6?

Well, amigo, you make MAGA look bad. You make any J6 apologist look bad.
You make your avatar look bad.

Be better.
The forum could be persuaded you are better.
If only you would do homework.

they were there to prevent what they thought was a stolen election, by getting the election sent back to the states. Now, if they had known they lost the electron and still fit what they did, it would have been sedition.

I agree that they should be punished for vandalism and trespass.

By the way, it's ironic that the DoI says we should remove tyrannical government, but congress wrote laws making that illegal... just as a side note

 

[d0gbreath]

And Floyd didn’t have to die the day he did either. The violent ex-felon could have stayed home day, or not pass a counterfeit bill, or not defy police orders.

You should probably consider staying home today, to be on the safe side.

 

[Lisa558]

You should probably consider staying home today, to be on the safe side.

The point is that when an honorable vet who was a Republican is murdered, you casually say …” well, she should have stayed home” - and when a violent ex-felon is killed, you don’t make the same comment.

News flash: there’s a new sheriff in town. We won’t have two standards of justice where non-violent white Republicans are thrown in prison, and black ex- cons with long rap records are practically awarded sainthood.