Video emerges of Georgia jogger attack; case headed to grand jury

[harmonica]

'And you said someone's breaking into it right now?' the operator asks.

'No, it's all open, it's under construction,' the caller explains. 'And he's running right now, there he goes right now.'

The operator replies: 'Okay, what is he doing?
'He's running down the street,' the caller says.

'Okay, that's fine. I'll get them out there. I just need to know what he was doing wrong,' the operator says.

The caller alleges that Arbery had been seen previously in the neighborhood.

'He's been caught on the camera a bunch before at night,' he claims, 'It's kind of an ongoing thing out here.'

The operator asks the caller to clarify what the alleged suspect is wearing, saying someone will be sent out to 'check it out.'

'Black guy, white t-shirt. And he's gone running back into the neighborhood,' the caller adds.

White men arrested for MURDER of black jogger 2 MONTHS after shooting

Exclusive photos show the moment Gregory McMichael, 64, and Travis McMichael, 34, were arrested at their home in Brunswick, Georgia, on Thursday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

From the same article you linked, here's how the initial 911 call from Gregory started out...

A 911 call made just minutes before Arbery was shot was released on Thursday morning.

'Hello. Err, I'm out here in Satilla Shores. There's a black male running down the street,' says the caller.

'I don't know what street we're on,' he adds, distracted and out of breath, when the operator asks him for the exact address within the neighborhood.

Gregory breaks off the call suddenly with an inaudible shout, adding: 'Goddamn it, c'mon, Travis.'

For the remainder of the 4:46-minute long call, the operator repeatedly asks in vain for information, saying 'hello, where you at?' without getting any reply.

That call was one of two placed to 911 relating to Arbery's supposed suspicious behavior in the moments before the shooting, with a second made to the non-emergency number of the Brunswick Police Department.


The transcript that you posted is from the second call to 911. The name of the second 911 caller has been redacted.

and?

 

[harmonica]

..at first, I thought this was ''not as bad'' as the TMartin case --but these dumbasses were intercepting/blocking/cutting him off!!!!!!!!!

 

[Fang]

..at first, I thought this was ''not as bad'' as the TMartin case --but these dumbasses were intercepting/blocking/cutting him off!!!!!!!!!

Exactly. The McMichaels lawyer even admitted they were trying to perform a citizens arrest. That was a huge legal mistake IMO because now the lawyers for Ahmaud's family don't need to make the case they were trying to detain him because we know they were. They had no right to do that.

 

[DOTR]

So the next time a white guy is in a Black neighborhood someone should shoot him?

If he's stupid enough to go there, probably yes.

You scared of black neighborhoods?

I lived in a primarily black neighborhood when I was younger. In Oklahoma City. Not that scary.

Unless you are a snowflake.

There are no black neighborhoods that arent best avoided. Its why decent blacks fight so hard to get into white neighborhoods.

 

[Natural Citizen]

and?

You completely omitted the initial 911 call from Gregory himself which stated only that they were chasing a black guy running down the street with no further response to the dispatcher's questions and chose only to post the transcript from the second unknown (name redacted) 911 caller.

So I corrected the record. That's "and."

 

[harmonica]

and?

You completely omitted the initial 911 call from Gregory himself which stated only that they were chasing a black guy running down the street with no further response to the dispatcher's questions and chose only to post the transcript from the second unknown (name redacted) 911 caller.

So I corrected the record. That's "and."

...ok
.....it doesn't change the fact they are chasing someone for no reason ...does it?

 

[harmonica]

..so I've read, in some places, they thought he was burglarizing a home '''under construction'''''
1. in previous posts, it appears they have no reason to chase/intercept/block him
2. '''under construction''' = no personal belongings could be robbed/etc....

 

[NotYourBody]

So the next time a white guy is in a Black neighborhood someone should shoot him?

If he's stupid enough to go there, probably yes.

You scared of black neighborhoods?

I lived in a primarily black neighborhood when I was younger. In Oklahoma City. Not that scary.

Unless you are a snowflake.

There are no black neighborhoods that arent best avoided. Its why decent blacks fight so hard to get into white neighborhoods.

^^^Evidence of a lily white snowflake. Probably has never left her neighborhood for fear of.........the world.

 

[jc456]

why was a friend following in a car taping him?

How do you know that was a friend?

oh for fk sake, it was in a link in post #95 here's the quote from that link;

Merritt said that the video was posted online anonymously and that he received it from someone who knew the victim. He said he believes the shooter's intention was to kill Arbery "without any proper justification," and he called the young man's death a "modern-day lynching."

major comprehension fail, loser

which part?

 

[jc456]

..so I've read, in some places, they thought he was burglarizing a home '''under construction'''''
1. in previous posts, it appears they have no reason to chase/intercept/block him
2. '''under construction''' = no personal belongings could be robbed/etc....

many personal belongings to workers. you've never seen a job site huh?

 

[harmonica]

..at first, I thought this was ''not as bad'' as the TMartin case --but these dumbasses were intercepting/blocking/cutting him off!!!!!!!!!

Exactly. The McMichaels lawyer even admitted they were trying to perform a citizens arrest. That was a huge legal mistake IMO because now the lawyers for Ahmaud's family don't need to make the case they were trying to detain him because we know they were. They had no right to do that.

..they admitted they tried to stop/detain/etc him many times

 

[harmonica]

..so I've read, in some places, they thought he was burglarizing a home '''under construction'''''
1. in previous posts, it appears they have no reason to chase/intercept/block him
2. '''under construction''' = no personal belongings could be robbed/etc....

many personal belongings to workers. you've never seen a job site huh?

..they leave tools/etc unlocked? = dumbasses
..anyway, there is no proof he took anything --or was even there

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Who is running toward somebody the black or the white guy?

Arbery runs around the truck to be confronted by a man holding a rifle. It's not hard to believe Arbery was in fear for his life. Neither of these guys are police and neither of them had any reason to confront him.

Your opinion is irrelevant as you are a known racist.

^^^BOOM^^^

Jits and Asclepias are two sides of the same racist coin. Neither can be taken very seriously when logic is required.

I’m typing what the video shows

Then we are seeing two vastly different encounters. Does your video show the man to be larger and faster than a typical truck?

do you see a truck chasing the jogger? again, post the time from the video showing that. I'll wait.

No. This is an assumption I am making. Need more facts than the 35 second video but people have yet to explain why the persons in the truck did not drive away. If more of the story comes out and there is a credible reason, I will gladly retract what I said. My intuition has been great so far in my life so I will continue to trust it. Hopefully more details come out regarding this homicide.

you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all.

Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

Because Assfaceias blatantly said that because I am white he does not want my help or opinion. IM2 and Marc have made similar statements before. Me being white makes me the enemy. So now, I'll just shrug. When you tell me to "**** off" and you don't need or want my help then you reap what you sow. What morons like them and likely you don't comprehend is that racists hate Jews more than blacks and I have seen racism more frequently than any of those jokes, I would wager, but they don't care because I am "white".

What you don't get, Lone Leftist, is that racism is not only a white disease. Blacks may be racist too and those three I mentioned are case in point.

 

[jc456]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

And, there was a witness right behind him videotaping him if all he did was turn and run toward that vehicle.

 

[jc456]

..so I've read, in some places, they thought he was burglarizing a home '''under construction'''''
1. in previous posts, it appears they have no reason to chase/intercept/block him
2. '''under construction''' = no personal belongings could be robbed/etc....

many personal belongings to workers. you've never seen a job site huh?

..they leave tools/etc unlocked? = dumbasses
..anyway, there is no proof he took anything --or was even there

sure they lock them. thieves break locks and steal them. that's why it's called robbery. You said there's no personal items there. so you admit you're wrong?

 

[harmonica]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

WRONG--see post #552......the jogger TRIED to get away--he even TURNED around!!!!!!

 

[harmonica]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

i also talk to people I know carrying guns. why don't you think we shouldn't talk to someone with a gun?

Exactly....a lot of liberals have a gun phobia....in Georgia anyone can walk around with a gun as in a lot of states. Still yet the fear of guns is quite rampant thanks to the media.

However the black dude must have had no fear of guns....I mean who in their right mind will attack someone holding a shotgun? Maybe he was on drugs???

How would you feel about two people with guns chasing you?

I try not to put myself into that situation. It scares me. They could shoot.

You have no evidence yet that shows them chasing him with guns.

In fact, the runner saw the dude with the gun before he ever got to the truck. It wasn't pointed at him at all. And you can see the jogger as he approached he went toward the drivers side, and I can see he sees the kid with the gun, and instead of turning around and running the opposite way, he maneuvers around to the passenger side and runs directly toward the kid with the rifle. The old man in the truck bed had no gun in his hand at the time the runner was approaching. The runner had every opportunity to avoid the truck and gun by simply turning around. That's what I would have done. just saying, I don't go down dark alleys for that very reason.

..the victim, tried to get away---they kept continuously chasing him/blocking him/intercepting him--by their OWN admission

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So, it turns out somebody caught it on video. It is clear from the video that the jogger was ambushed. The truck stopped in the road ahead of him, waiting on him to run by, and when he went around the truck, the driver jumped him while the other man, standing in the back of the truck, either shot the jogger, or was aiming and ready to shoot.

These men were not in fear of their lives. They ambushed the jogger plain and simple. Try them, and if convicted, give them the maximum sentence possible.

Video posted online as DA says case of Georgia man who was chased and killed will go to grand jury | CNN

A Georgia district attorney is recommending that the case of a man who was chased, shot and killed while running more than two months ago go to a grand jury, according to a news release obtained by CNN.

www.cnn.com

Good to hear but even with video Black people still get no justice. Here is to hoping the cave chimps go to prison and get injected in the eye with bleach.

Don't get any justice? As I said public hanging. Make a statement.

What was it you failed to understand? I didnt ask what you said and I already made a statement. Its the one you replied to.

What you fail to understand is that if you don't get those like myself on your side, these murders will keep happening and people will keep shrugging at it. You are a very stupid person.

Say what? Those like yourself? What does that mean in regards to this incident?

You're too stupid to understand the statement? OK.

 

[L.K.Eder]

why was a friend following in a car taping him?

How do you know that was a friend?

oh for fk sake, it was in a link in post #95 here's the quote from that link;

Merritt said that the video was posted online anonymously and that he received it from someone who knew the victim. He said he believes the shooter's intention was to kill Arbery "without any proper justification," and he called the young man's death a "modern-day lynching."

major comprehension fail, loser

which part?

all of it. it was explained to you. **** off.

 

[Asclepias]

Who is running toward somebody the black or the white guy?

Arbery runs around the truck to be confronted by a man holding a rifle. It's not hard to believe Arbery was in fear for his life. Neither of these guys are police and neither of them had any reason to confront him.

Your opinion is irrelevant as you are a known racist.

^^^BOOM^^^

Jits and Asclepias are two sides of the same racist coin. Neither can be taken very seriously when logic is required.

I’m typing what the video shows

Then we are seeing two vastly different encounters. Does your video show the man to be larger and faster than a typical truck?

do you see a truck chasing the jogger? again, post the time from the video showing that. I'll wait.

No. This is an assumption I am making. Need more facts than the 35 second video but people have yet to explain why the persons in the truck did not drive away. If more of the story comes out and there is a credible reason, I will gladly retract what I said. My intuition has been great so far in my life so I will continue to trust it. Hopefully more details come out regarding this homicide.

you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all.

Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

Because Assfaceias blatantly said that because I am white he does not want my help or opinion. IM2 and Marc have made similar statements before. Me being white makes me the enemy. So now, I'll just shrug. When you tell me to "**** off" and you don't need or want my help then you reap what you sow. What morons like them and likely you don't comprehend is that racists hate Jews more than blacks and I have seen racism more frequently than any of those jokes, I would wager, but they don't care because I am "white".

What you don't get, Lone Leftist, is that racism is not only a white disease. Blacks may be racist too and those three I mentioned are case in point.

I must have really hurt your feelings. You still talking about me? Dont be mad bro. Like I told you before, I dont need nor did I ask for your help. Not because youre white. Because youre white and you assume I need your help. If you have to be convinced that Black people shouldnt be killed by racists then youre a racist.