Verdict reached in Karmelo murder trial

[Ghost of a Rider]

It hasn't lost its meaning at all, or you racists wouldn't be shitting your pants over it every time.

That tends to happen when people are accused of something they're not guilty of. And to prove my point for me, you have just called me racist and I'll bet you can't even logically explain why.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

"Those who knew him" speaks for itself.

You're conflating "those who knew him" as "those who were his friends and family". Those who knew him means anyone who knew who he was, interacted with him in any way or otherwise observed his actions and behaviors. This includes pretty much every person who attended or taught at that school. It also includes neighbors, friends of friends two, three, four times or more removed, etc.

A f**k of a lot more people knew Austin or knew of him than you're willing to admit. Even those who only knew his name and saw him around school knew more than you do. No one who knew him or knew of him came forward to make this allegation but you make the allegation because somebody on the internet said so.

Now are you claiming that Karmelo had a proper defense?

Irrelevant. Are you claiming without evidence that Austin was a bully?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

"Those who knew him" speaks for itself. Now are you claiming that Karmelo had a proper defense?

If he didnt, who's fault is that? His parents bought expensive cars and a house but couldn't hire a good attorney?

 

[MarcATL]

That tends to happen when people are accused of something they're not guilty of. And to prove my point for me, you have just called me racist and I'll bet you can't even logically explain why.

You think you're anti-racist?

 

[MarcATL]

You're conflating "those who knew him" as "those who were his friends and family". Those who knew him means anyone who knew who he was, interacted with him in any way or otherwise observed his actions and behaviors. This includes pretty much every person who attended or taught at that school. It also includes neighbors, friends of friends two, three, four times or more removed, etc.

A f**k of a lot more people knew Austin or knew of him than you're willing to admit. Even those who only knew his name and saw him around school knew more than you do. No one who knew him or knew of him came forward to make this allegation but you make the allegation because somebody on the internet said so.

Irrelevant. Are you claiming without evidence that Austin was a bully?

So you're suggesting that Austin had a good name around town and Karmelo didn't?

 

[MarcATL]

That tends to happen when people are accused of something they're not guilty of. And to prove my point for me, you have just called me racist and I'll bet you can't even logically explain why.

That means, unlike what you stated previously, the word "racist" still has meaning.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[MarcATL]

If he didnt, who's fault is that? His parents bought expensive cars and a house but couldn't hire a good attorney?

When, are you suggesting, that they bought those things?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So you're suggesting that Austin had a good name around town and Karmelo didn't?

which of the two took a knife to a track meet and was kicked out of school earlier for having a knife? which of the two MURDERED the other with said knife because of a push? Go ahead make more excuses for coldblooded murder.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

When, are you suggesting, that they bought those things?

see you dont even know anything about this case.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

You think you're anti-racist?

Irrelevant. You're the one who made the allegation that I'm racist. Either give a logical explanation for your allegation or give it up as an unsubstantiated assumption.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

So you're suggesting that Austin had a good name around town and Karmelo didn't?

I didn't say anything about Karmelo and I didn't say what the people around town thought of Austin. I have no idea what they thought of him, I only know that the people who knew him and knew of him did not say he was a bully. That is a fact.

You need to understand and remember that this is not about anything I said or didn't say. This is about your allegation that Austin was a bully. That's it. An allegation you have no evidence for or testimony to support it. Not one person who would know if Austin was a bully ever said he was. That's all I'm saying and I don't know anything beyond that.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

That means, unlike what you stated previously, the word "racist" still has meaning.

But which meaning? Which meaning do I fall under? Is it the one that dictates that if you disagree with someone, you're racist?

You're the one who made (another) allegation. Explain to us logically why you make this claim about me.

 

[AZrailwhale]

He and his brother ganged up on a smaller black kid over something as petty as who got to stand in a tent during a rainstorm.

Sure as hell sounds like a bully to me.

Oh, yeah, and their dad thinks saying "Watermelon Felon" in public is acceptable discourse. The Apples didn't fall far from the tree.

So people calling other people racists for no reason is acceptable public discourse in your eyes? Anthony's parents started the war when Metcalf's parents were trying to prevent it. I wouldn't have stooped to calling names in public, but Anthony's parents are scum.

 

[AZrailwhale]

"Those who knew him" speaks for itself. Now are you claiming that Karmelo had a proper defense?

Anthony's lawyer did a piss poor job, but he had nothing to work with to begin with. He put at least one character witness on the stand without interviewing him first. Even I know one of the first things they teach trial lawyers is to never put anyone on the stand without knowing exactly what they are going to say. Anthony was guilty of killing Metcalf, there were at least twenty eyewitnesses AND two videos taken from fixed cameras at long range. Plus Anthony admitted to the cops that he did it when apprehended BEFORE he could be Mirandized. There is no doubt that the killing occurred and that Anthiony did it. The only hope the defense had was to bring in facts and witnesses to reduce the sentence, they managed to do that; Anthony got 35 years instead of life which was the maximum possible sentence.

 

[Ringo]

 

[krichton]

Oh, you are making it too easy.

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I just ead up on this case. Legally once you've retreated to safety, you can no longer reenter your home to fight your intruder and then claim SYG. This is not considered self defense under Florida state law and it makes complete sense. Ultimately this is just one case, you're claiming that SYG never applies to blacks. Where is the proof of this?

 

[Papageorgio]

Lemme guess, you believe Karmelo had a chip on his shoulder and just threw the first punch to start shit unprovoked, right

All they do is lie, because the truth is never in their favor.

Anthony is no longer presumed innocent and is guilty the website has a policy of collecting funds for a person convicted of a violent crime. Penny was acquitted, also Penny’s page added that any excess funds over and above the trial expenses would go to mental health programs, and to that his legal battles have not ended because an ongoing civil trial.

I know that won’t please you but those are the facts and policies that have been there for awhile. Now, if you can find a case where someone was found guilty and is still up there, then you have a real case. But two entirely different circumstances.

 

[Papageorgio]

"Melo" should have gotten death not Jail.

A 17 year old? No, what he did was terrible and unjustified but killing him would serve no purpose for such a young man and I am in flavor of the death penalty, just not here.

 

[MarcATL]

But which meaning? Which meaning do I fall under? Is it the one that dictates that if you disagree with someone, you're racist?

You're the one who made (another) allegation. Explain to us logically why you make this claim about me.

There's no such meaning. The only meaning is that in the dictionary.