Venezuela ; The Socialists nightmare w/ half the population in CRITICAL poverty now

[Disir]

The great thing about you fucktard liberals is that when you say something, no one with a brain thinks it's so......

The great thing is when you post, your head is stuck so far up your ass that the rest of the world hears nothing.

Not that you liberal fucktards would understand....

So how is Chavez doing?

LOL!! Ok, now that was funny.. I don't care who ya are!

Evo Morales to John Kerry: Latin America Is Not Your Backyard

How funny is it?

Bolivia's already a shit hole and there's nothing Morales can do to make it any worse. Bolivia is in fact the back yard of all the countries that border it, and that's quite a few.

Thus giving Kerry the right.

 

[Disir]

Seriously, can anyone decipher Corky's (Disir) posts as in what the fuck he's talking about???

You had your ass handed to you and this is all you have. Got it.

OMG.. Did you bother to read the fucking thread title, Retardo?? All of these dumb fucking links you're posting has ZERO to do with this thread.. Geezus you liberals are fucking RIDICULOUSLY stupid..

I read the title of the thread. I read your links. I read your commentary. The only thing you have demonstrated is that you are a useful tool.

So early? You might want to slow down.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Seriously, can anyone decipher Corky's (Disir) posts as in what the fuck he's talking about???

You had your ass handed to you and this is all you have. Got it.

OMG.. Did you bother to read the fucking thread title, Retardo?? All of these dumb fucking links you're posting has ZERO to do with this thread.. Geezus you liberals are fucking RIDICULOUSLY stupid..

I read the title of the thread. I read your links. I read your commentary. The only thing you have demonstrated is that you are a useful tool.

So early? You might want to slow down.

Hey Stupido, from your own fucking link.. tell us what the relevance of John Kerry not supporting the latest SOCIALIST leader of Venezuela has to do with the collapse of Venezuela????

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I'm sorry, I didn't hear you Disir ?

 

[PurpleOwl]

Here is a good explanation for whats going on in venezuela right now, even though it was written awhile ago

After 17 years of rule by Hugo Chavez’s Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV), the country’s economy is unraveling. The vast majority of the Venezuelan population faces scarcities of food, medical care, consumer goods, and electricity, while poverty has doubled to 80 percent since 2013. Food riots and spontaneous protests in working class neighborhoods take place on a daily basis, and the Chavista government of President Nicholas Maduro has responded by imposing a state of emergency.

While the jostling between the PSUV and the right-wing opposition Democratic Unity Roundtable (MUD) for state power has produced the possibility of a coup or martial law, these two bourgeois parties are not the only elements whose actions will determine the future of the country. The Venezuelan working class, denied the basic necessities of life, is increasingly coming into conflict with both the government and the official opposition.

But the period of PSUV rule has shown how disastrous it is for workers to forfeit their political independence to a section of the ruling class that falsely labels itself as “socialist.” What is most urgently required by the Venezuelan working class today is a political program of class struggle, independent of and in opposition to both sections of the bourgeoisie who base their support or opposition to the government on the false claim that the PSUV, Chavez, and Maduro represent socialism.

At precisely this juncture, a series of groups that have for years served as “left” props for the Chavez-Maduro administration are engaging in an operation to prevent the working class from breaking politically with Chavismo. Composed of sections of the upper-middle class which are tied materially to the PSUV bureaucracy and the purse strings of state power, the Venezuelan pseudo-left and its international allies have a material interest in defending the bourgeois government from the working class.

The web site VenezuelAnalysis, an international consortium of PSUV apologists, published a May 20 article by Jorge Martin of the International Marxist Tendency titled “Venezuela—A Last Warning.” The IMT, led by the British ex-radical Alan Woods, has long served as a “left” advisor to the PSUV and has claimed since Chavez took power in 1999 that his so-called Bolivarian revolution represented socialism.

The author begins by acknowledging that Venezuela is in the throes of “a very serious crisis.” “The reactionary opposition,” he writes, is carrying out “an attempt to capitalize on the severe economic problems the country is facing” by “trying to create a situation of chaos and violence” aimed at removing Maduro from power.

Undoubtedly the right-wing opposition, composed of CIA assets and corporate CEOs, believes it is better poised than the PSUV to impose the diktats of Wall Street and US imperialism. But what is the cause of the “severe economic problems the country is facing”?

Martin presents a list of ways in which “private capitalists” and the “private sector” have manipulated the economy through currency speculation and the black market for consumer goods. He notes that “this unsustainable economic dislocation” has been “aimed at hitting the working masses in order to undermine their support for the revolution.” He adds that “one of the main reasons for this unsustainable economic dislocation is therefore the ‘natural’ rebellion of the capitalist producers against any attempt to regulate the normal workings of the ‘free market.’”

Martin’s argument is based on a fundamental contradiction: How is Chavismo revolutionary if after nearly two decades of PSUV rule, “private capitalists” exercise such control over the Venezuelan economy that they can plunge the working class into such desperation?

The Venezuelan pseudo-left and the debacle of Chavismo - World Socialist Web Site

 

[Disir]

You had your ass handed to you and this is all you have. Got it.

OMG.. Did you bother to read the fucking thread title, Retardo?? All of these dumb fucking links you're posting has ZERO to do with this thread.. Geezus you liberals are fucking RIDICULOUSLY stupid..

I read the title of the thread. I read your links. I read your commentary. The only thing you have demonstrated is that you are a useful tool.

So early? You might want to slow down.

Hey Stupido, from your own fucking link.. tell us what the relevance of John Kerry not supporting the latest SOCIALIST leader of Venezuela has to do with the collapse of Venezuela????

All of the links provided say the same. It is implementing US policy which is "free market" and hence the links provided with money funneled to NGOs and USAID under the guise of "human rights". Regime change. I'm sure you are familiar with it. You sound like an Obama bot. Query. What are the US sanctions against Venezuela?

Why were diplomats expelled?

 

[Penelope]

Where are you at LGS?

I'm right here DIPSHIT

Good, now bring your ass up to speed. I'm going to drink some coffee and catch the news. I'll wait. It shouldn't take you too long.

You might be waiting a long time.

 

[Penelope]

Flashback: All Those People Who Praised Chavez’s Socialism

Read more: Flashback: All Those People Who Praised Chavez’s Socialism

Dead Socialist Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez was praised throughout his life by many figures in academia, journalism and Hollywood despite his brutal regime.

This praise included Salon writer David Sirota’s piece after the leader’s death, titled “Hugo Chavez’s economic miracle.” In British publication The New Statesman, a headline as Chavez was nearing death in January 2013 was “Hugo Chavez: Man against the world,” and its sub-headline read “As illness ends Hugo Chavez’s rule in Venezuela, what will his legacy be? Richard Gott argues he brought hope to a continent.”



See how INSANE liberals are??!

Yes what you call liberals are too stupid to realize capitalistic elites will always squeeze them to death, starve and or freeze.

Worldwide oil supply and demand has remained relatively constant the past four years. What has changed is the perception that demand will soon outstrip supply and the exacerbation of this by speculators allowing prices to skyrocket past $140 a barrel and Big Oil to fill its coffers. Given the chance to make a balanced distribution of these “unearned” profits, Big Oil has chosen to reward shareowners over their customers, who struggle to afford gas for daily commutes or heat to warm homes during winter. Every year Citizens Energy petitions Big Oil to provide a small slice of assistance to help keep the poor warm. Every year, Big Oil says no.” [ix]

The only oil company to respond to the cry for help back in 2005, and every year since then, was Citgo Petroleum, a subsidiary of the Venezuelan state oil company (known as Petroleos de Venezuela S.A., or PDVSA, and pronounced peh-deh-VEH-sa. The “S.A.” stands for “sociedad anonima” or incorporated).[x]

That response has led to a thriving partnership between Citgo and the South Bronx, as well as a much broader national program. Citizens Energy is currently working with Citgo to provide heating assistance to 200,000 low-income families in 23 states, more than 250 Indian tribes from Alaska to Maine, and to more than 200 homeless shelters.[xi]

Warming Up the Bronx: Citgo Venezuela Heating & Social Development Program

(I imagine in Texas its not a big deal, heat in the winter)

What's your fucking point??? That 200 Venezuelans won't freeze to death so it's all good????

Actually its your problem , you don't read, and if you do you don't comprehend. There are special ed schools for people like you. Don't fear.

 

[Disir]

Where are you at LGS?

I'm right here DIPSHIT

Good, now bring your ass up to speed. I'm going to drink some coffee and catch the news. I'll wait. It shouldn't take you too long.

You might be waiting a long time.

She/he/it will never get it. It requires critical thinking.

 

[Penelope]

That response has led to a thriving partnership between Citgo and the South Bronx, as well as a much broader national program. Citizens Energy is currently working with Citgo to provide heating assistance to 200,000 low-income families in 23 states, more than 250 Indian tribes from Alaska to Maine, and to more than 200 homeless shelters.[xi]

Warming Up the Bronx: Citgo Venezuela Heating & Social Development Program

(I imagine in Texas its not a big deal, heat in the winter)

The US subsidizes heating for the poor to the tune of about 3 billion a year.


Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) | Office of Community Services | Administration for Children and Families

Yes I am aware and oil is down now but it was going up in 05 ,

The Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program, which helps people pay their heating bills, would be cut 8.4 percent, to $2 billion.

Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said this proposal could not have come at a worse time, since the cartel of oil-producing countries "continues to jack up oil prices and tip American consumers upside down."

Senator Olympia J. Snowe, Republican of Maine, rejected the plan, saying she would push legislation to provide $3.4 billion in energy assistance.

Subject to Bush's Knife: Aid for Food and Heating

By ROBERT PEARFEB. 8, 2005

Continue reading the main story Share This Page

 

[Penelope]

************** THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE PERILS OF SOCIALISM with regard to THE MODERN DAY COLLAPSE OF VENEZUELA..

And the capitalists did not like it and revolted and in turn starved the people. Greed at the top is what happened in Venezuela.

 

[owebo]

Flashback: All Those People Who Praised Chavez’s Socialism

Read more: Flashback: All Those People Who Praised Chavez’s Socialism

Dead Socialist Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez was praised throughout his life by many figures in academia, journalism and Hollywood despite his brutal regime.

This praise included Salon writer David Sirota’s piece after the leader’s death, titled “Hugo Chavez’s economic miracle.” In British publication The New Statesman, a headline as Chavez was nearing death in January 2013 was “Hugo Chavez: Man against the world,” and its sub-headline read “As illness ends Hugo Chavez’s rule in Venezuela, what will his legacy be? Richard Gott argues he brought hope to a continent.”



See how INSANE liberals are??!

Yes what you call liberals are too stupid to realize capitalistic elites will always squeeze them to death, starve and or freeze.

Worldwide oil supply and demand has remained relatively constant the past four years. What has changed is the perception that demand will soon outstrip supply and the exacerbation of this by speculators allowing prices to skyrocket past $140 a barrel and Big Oil to fill its coffers. Given the chance to make a balanced distribution of these “unearned” profits, Big Oil has chosen to reward shareowners over their customers, who struggle to afford gas for daily commutes or heat to warm homes during winter. Every year Citizens Energy petitions Big Oil to provide a small slice of assistance to help keep the poor warm. Every year, Big Oil says no.” [ix]

The only oil company to respond to the cry for help back in 2005, and every year since then, was Citgo Petroleum, a subsidiary of the Venezuelan state oil company (known as Petroleos de Venezuela S.A., or PDVSA, and pronounced peh-deh-VEH-sa. The “S.A.” stands for “sociedad anonima” or incorporated).[x]

That response has led to a thriving partnership between Citgo and the South Bronx, as well as a much broader national program. Citizens Energy is currently working with Citgo to provide heating assistance to 200,000 low-income families in 23 states, more than 250 Indian tribes from Alaska to Maine, and to more than 200 homeless shelters.[xi]

Warming Up the Bronx: Citgo Venezuela Heating & Social Development Program

(I imagine in Texas its not a big deal, heat in the winter)

What's your fucking point??? That 200 Venezuelans won't freeze to death so it's all good????

Actually its your problem , you don't read, and if you do you don't comprehend. There are special ed schools for people like you. Don't fear.

You touting your alma matter, how precious.....

 

[owebo]

************** THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE PERILS OF SOCIALISM with regard to THE MODERN DAY COLLAPSE OF VENEZUELA..

And the capitalists did not like it and revolted and in turn starved the people. Greed at the top is what happened in Venezuela.

Yep, your socialist trickle up poverty sure did.....

 

[owebo]

Where are you at LGS?

I'm right here DIPSHIT

Good, now bring your ass up to speed. I'm going to drink some coffee and catch the news. I'll wait. It shouldn't take you too long.

You might be waiting a long time.

She/he/it will never get it. It requires critical thinking.

Your IQ is just above ceasing the involuntary function of breathing.....you seem so proud....

Perhaps you would move to your creation, Venezuela......

 

[Disir]

Where are you at LGS?

I'm right here DIPSHIT

Good, now bring your ass up to speed. I'm going to drink some coffee and catch the news. I'll wait. It shouldn't take you too long.

You might be waiting a long time.

She/he/it will never get it. It requires critical thinking.

Your IQ is just above ceasing the involuntary function of breathing.....you seem so proud....

Perhaps you would move to your creation, Venezuela......

Is that all you got? If this is the best you can deliver then you are backing up.

 

[kaz]

The only thing capitalists would do differently in Venezuela is slaughter and enslave the poor. There are plenty of capitalist countries in South America, that are much worse off but you will never hear a right winger blame capitalism for that

The biggest problem is the collapsing price of oil, Venezuela’s main export.When the oil price was high Chavez could fund anti-poverty programmes without confronting the rich. Maduro can no longer do this.

Meanwhile severe drought has rendered the hydroelectric dams that power Venezuela useless. Neither of these problems are former bus worker Maduro’s doing.

Of course, a decade of relying on oil revenue didn’t help. But Venezuela’s rulers were simply following the absurd capitalist logic about what a resource-rich country should do in a time of high prices.

The only thing the Venezuelan right and its US and European imperialist backers would have changed was letting the poor get a share.

Today’s crisis would be far worse in a Venezuela with no food subsidies or price controls.

Blame capitalism not socialism for Venezuela's crisis

Who?

And you don't know what capitalism is

 

[Penelope]

************** THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE PERILS OF SOCIALISM with regard to THE MODERN DAY COLLAPSE OF VENEZUELA..

And the capitalists did not like it and revolted and in turn starved the people. Greed at the top is what happened in Venezuela.

Yep, your socialist trickle up poverty sure did.....

Same reason trickle down does not work, the greedy at the top, are well "greedy".
Reminds one of the Edwardian Era in Britain. Same thing is happening here.

 

[Iceweasel]

That response has led to a thriving partnership between Citgo and the South Bronx, as well as a much broader national program. Citizens Energy is currently working with Citgo to provide heating assistance to 200,000 low-income families in 23 states, more than 250 Indian tribes from Alaska to Maine, and to more than 200 homeless shelters.[xi]

Warming Up the Bronx: Citgo Venezuela Heating & Social Development Program

(I imagine in Texas its not a big deal, heat in the winter)

The US subsidizes heating for the poor to the tune of about 3 billion a year.


Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) | Office of Community Services | Administration for Children and Families

Yes I am aware and oil is down now but it was going up in 05 ,

The Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program, which helps people pay their heating bills, would be cut 8.4 percent, to $2 billion.

Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said this proposal could not have come at a worse time, since the cartel of oil-producing countries "continues to jack up oil prices and tip American consumers upside down."

Senator Olympia J. Snowe, Republican of Maine, rejected the plan, saying she would push legislation to provide $3.4 billion in energy assistance.

Subject to Bush's Knife: Aid for Food and Heating

By ROBERT PEARFEB. 8, 2005

Continue reading the main story Share This Page

So why are leftists getting in the way of domestic production? ALSO, we should have MUCH more nuclear power plants on line. AND leftists are killing our coal industry. Get rid of the leftists and we can solve these problems.

 

[owebo]

************** THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE PERILS OF SOCIALISM with regard to THE MODERN DAY COLLAPSE OF VENEZUELA..

And the capitalists did not like it and revolted and in turn starved the people. Greed at the top is what happened in Venezuela.

Yep, your socialist trickle up poverty sure did.....

Same reason trickle down does not work, the greedy at the top, are well "greedy".
Reminds one of the Edwardian Era in Britain. Same thing is happening here.

Did you notice America? I mean before you, pre-fascist.....

 

[kaz]

************** THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE PERILS OF SOCIALISM with regard to THE MODERN DAY COLLAPSE OF VENEZUELA..

And the capitalists did not like it and revolted and in turn starved the people. Greed at the top is what happened in Venezuela.

Yep, your socialist trickle up poverty sure did.....

Same reason trickle down does not work, the greedy at the top, are well "greedy".
Reminds one of the Edwardian Era in Britain. Same thing is happening here.

It's funny, when you talk, Lenin's lips move ...