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So what is it about in Venezuela?
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Venezuela elections clean: International observers
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I don´t consume Washington´s "free media" on such issues. I know that the "peaceful" protesters killed many people and even burned some to death in public.--- Venezuela protests: What you need to know - CNN --- just some info for you Crep and BP .
In Detail: The Deaths So Far
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And they can´t be on a parade why?We tend to call them reactive armor.You go.I don't think we can truly be sure they had a clean election unless we invade and confirm for ourselves.
Wow, nothing says incompetence more than a military that parades tanks past civilians with the ERA blocks still attached.
Explosive Reactive Armor, and they are also great AP weapons when used against people.
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We're responsible they elected a socialist?? Are you saying obama influenced tgeir electionsSince the US is responsible for their misery, they should go to the US until the crisis is over. They should wreck havoc so the US population leans their regime´s criminal actions have consequences and thus make the people stand up against the regime.i sure hope they don't come or try to come to the USA , ---------- Go TRUMP , Build that wall .
Less than fifty percent voted for him. On top of that, the election observers probably aren't to be trusted.
None the less, except for the CIA's repeated attempts at a coup and attempts on Chavez's life, you are right, the US doesn't bear much responsibility in this mess.Hugo Chavez says US is giving South American leaders cancer | Daily Mail Online
In Chavez's attempt at noble defiance of NWO hegemony and neo-imperialist/colonialist globalist policies that were bankrupting the populace, he turned to an autocratic police state (Cuba) for help. That's like running into a vat a boiling acid to avoid a forest fire.
The Cuban commies and drug cartels infiltrated his nation's bureaucracy, while he was busy obtusely destroying the economic and bureaucratic structure of the nation, trying to get things to work when he didn't have a clue what he was doing.
Then he died and the SHTF b/c folks that really didn't give a shit about the common folk took over.
Who are the Council of Electoral Specialists of Latin America (CEELA)?
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And they can´t be on a parade why?We tend to call them reactive armor.You go.I don't think we can truly be sure they had a clean election unless we invade and confirm for ourselves.
Wow, nothing says incompetence more than a military that parades tanks past civilians with the ERA blocks still attached.
Explosive Reactive Armor, and they are also great AP weapons when used against people.
What would happen if one of them went off by accident?
Or is this not a parade but an attempt to quell a demonstration?
In that case it's no surprise they keep the ERA on.
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You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.Elections are now undemocratic?The US is responsible for its actions: Backing an undemocratic "opposition" that boycotts its own economy and democracy and even commits terrorist acts like dropping grenades from a helicopter. Obama ran the same agenda against Venezuela as now Trump does. Without the US support the "opposition" could´t do that without international condemnation and the government and the people would receive the support they need to overcome the feudal twenty cents monthly wage exploiters´ attack on their own country. It is very clear that the US wants to get their fingers on free Venezuelan oil.
How is creating a new legislature when you don't like the original one "democratic?
Socialists always blame their failures on someone else, it's the calling card of the eco-political philosophy.
The election was set up to return a majority for the socialists, and replaced an existing legislature.
Nice try there sport.
Why did they need to replace the existing legislature?
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
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Never heard they explode by accident. Maybe you like those better, however:And they can´t be on a parade why?We tend to call them reactive armor.You go.
Wow, nothing says incompetence more than a military that parades tanks past civilians with the ERA blocks still attached.
Explosive Reactive Armor, and they are also great AP weapons when used against people.
What would happen if one of them went off by accident?
Or is this not a parade but an attempt to quell a demonstration?
In that case it's no surprise they keep the ERA on.
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You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.Elections are now undemocratic?How is creating a new legislature when you don't like the original one "democratic?
Socialists always blame their failures on someone else, it's the calling card of the eco-political philosophy.
The election was set up to return a majority for the socialists, and replaced an existing legislature.
Nice try there sport.
Why did they need to replace the existing legislature?
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.Elections are now undemocratic?How is creating a new legislature when you don't like the original one "democratic?
Socialists always blame their failures on someone else, it's the calling card of the eco-political philosophy.
The election was set up to return a majority for the socialists, and replaced an existing legislature.
Nice try there sport.
Why did they need to replace the existing legislature?
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
LOL, a vote with less than 40% turnout to determine a new constitution, and each voter having 10 votes?
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What?You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.Elections are now undemocratic?
The election was set up to return a majority for the socialists, and replaced an existing legislature.
Nice try there sport.
Why did they need to replace the existing legislature?
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.Elections are now undemocratic?
The election was set up to return a majority for the socialists, and replaced an existing legislature.
Nice try there sport.
Why did they need to replace the existing legislature?
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
LOL, a vote with less than 40% turnout to determine a new constitution, and each voter having 10 votes?
- Apr 5, 2010
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What?You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.The election was set up to return a majority for the socialists, and replaced an existing legislature.
Nice try there sport.
Why did they need to replace the existing legislature?
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.The election was set up to return a majority for the socialists, and replaced an existing legislature.
Nice try there sport.
Why did they need to replace the existing legislature?
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
LOL, a vote with less than 40% turnout to determine a new constitution, and each voter having 10 votes?
click on the link about the election that created the assembly.
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The elections were democratic and clean. Undemocratic is the behavior of the countries dismissing the elections. Remember, it is just a year ago that this very countries insisted on elections.
"On Monday an international observer mission led by the Council of Electoral Experts of Latin America (CEELA), comprised of former top electoral officials from throughout the region, said the election was clean.
"Technically, up until today, we have not observed any element that could disqualify the electoral process," said CEELA President Nicanor Moscoso in a press conference.
"We can emphasize that these elections must be recognized, because they are the result of the will of the Venezuelan people," he added."
Venezuela’s Maduro Wins Reelection with 67.7% of Vote, Falcon Cries Fraud
Maduro is useless. He's destroyed his own country. He's the worst sort of politician, the sort that puts more value in their own power than in the welfare of the people.
Sort of like Trump.
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The elections were democratic and clean. Undemocratic is the behavior of the countries dismissing the elections. Remember, it is just a year ago that this very countries insisted on elections.
"On Monday an international observer mission led by the Council of Electoral Experts of Latin America (CEELA), comprised of former top electoral officials from throughout the region, said the election was clean.
"Technically, up until today, we have not observed any element that could disqualify the electoral process," said CEELA President Nicanor Moscoso in a press conference.
"We can emphasize that these elections must be recognized, because they are the result of the will of the Venezuelan people," he added."
Venezuela’s Maduro Wins Reelection with 67.7% of Vote, Falcon Cries Fraud
Maduro is useless. He's destroyed his own country. He's the worst sort of politician, the sort that puts more value in their own power than in the welfare of the people.
Sort of like Trump.
Nothing like Trump, but nice try at a false equivalency.
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There is nothing about "10 votes".What?You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
LOL, a vote with less than 40% turnout to determine a new constitution, and each voter having 10 votes?
click on the link about the election that created the assembly.
- Thread starter
- #54
Nonsense.The elections were democratic and clean. Undemocratic is the behavior of the countries dismissing the elections. Remember, it is just a year ago that this very countries insisted on elections.
"On Monday an international observer mission led by the Council of Electoral Experts of Latin America (CEELA), comprised of former top electoral officials from throughout the region, said the election was clean.
"Technically, up until today, we have not observed any element that could disqualify the electoral process," said CEELA President Nicanor Moscoso in a press conference.
"We can emphasize that these elections must be recognized, because they are the result of the will of the Venezuelan people," he added."
Venezuela’s Maduro Wins Reelection with 67.7% of Vote, Falcon Cries Fraud
Maduro is useless. He's destroyed his own country. He's the worst sort of politician, the sort that puts more value in their own power than in the welfare of the people.
Sort of like Trump.
------------------------------------- except for the TRUMP reference i agree with you post . As far as your TRUMP Reference i blame yer advanced state and case of TDS Frigid .The elections were democratic and clean. Undemocratic is the behavior of the countries dismissing the elections. Remember, it is just a year ago that this very countries insisted on elections.
"On Monday an international observer mission led by the Council of Electoral Experts of Latin America (CEELA), comprised of former top electoral officials from throughout the region, said the election was clean.
"Technically, up until today, we have not observed any element that could disqualify the electoral process," said CEELA President Nicanor Moscoso in a press conference.
"We can emphasize that these elections must be recognized, because they are the result of the will of the Venezuelan people," he added."
Venezuela’s Maduro Wins Reelection with 67.7% of Vote, Falcon Cries Fraud
Maduro is useless. He's destroyed his own country. He's the worst sort of politician, the sort that puts more value in their own power than in the welfare of the people.
Sort of like Trump.
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There is nothing about "10 votes".What?You are wrong.The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
You are wrong.The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
LOL, a vote with less than 40% turnout to determine a new constitution, and each voter having 10 votes?
click on the link about the election that created the assembly.
What was the second question on the ballot?
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What?There is nothing about "10 votes".What?
LOL, a vote with less than 40% turnout to determine a new constitution, and each voter having 10 votes?
click on the link about the election that created the assembly.
What was the second question on the ballot?
- Apr 5, 2010
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What?You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.The election was set up to return a majority for the socialists, and replaced an existing legislature.
Nice try there sport.
Why did they need to replace the existing legislature?
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.The election was set up to return a majority for the socialists, and replaced an existing legislature.
Nice try there sport.
Why did they need to replace the existing legislature?
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
LOL, a vote with less than 40% turnout to determine a new constitution, and each voter having 10 votes?
Wow, someone edited the article... I wonder who did that....
But take a look at the election that resulted:
Constituent Assembly elections were held in Venezuela on 25 July 1999,[1] following a referendum on April on convening one. For the election two large coalitions were created; Polo Patriótico, which consisted of the Fifth Republic Movement, the Movement for Socialism, Fatherland for All, the Communist Party of Venezuela, the People's Electoral Movement and some other minor parties, and Polo Democrático consisting of Democratic Action,Copei, Project Venezuela and Convergencia.[2] The result was a victory for Polo Patriótico, which won 121 of the 128 seats, whilst an additional three seats were taken by representatives of indigenous communities elected by indigenous associations.[2] Despite the apparent high number of votes, voter turnout was only 46.2%, as each voter had 10 votes.[3]
Venezuelan Constituent Assembly election, 1999 - Wikipedia
wait here it is!
Venezuelan constitutional referendum, April 1999 - Wikipedia
A referendum on convening a Constitutional Assembly was held in Venezuela on 25 April 1999.[1] Voters were asked two questions;
Both measures were approved, with 92.4% in favour of the first question and 86.5% in favour of the second. Voter turnout was 37.8%.[2]
- Should a Constitutional Assembly be convened?[2]
- Do you agree with the President's suggestion of how the Assembly should be elected (each voter having ten votes)?[2]
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So what´s wrong with ten votes when it is about to elect an assembly? How many votes do you have at home? Zero.What?You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
You are wrong.The elections take place every six years. Go cry if you don´t like it. They take place when they take place and not when your regime wants them.
US, EU calls for Venezuela election recount
U.S. denounces Venezuela for repression, demands free elections
The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
LOL, a vote with less than 40% turnout to determine a new constitution, and each voter having 10 votes?
Wow, someone edited the article... I wonder who did that....
But take a look at the election that resulted:
Constituent Assembly elections were held in Venezuela on 25 July 1999,[1] following a referendum on April on convening one. For the election two large coalitions were created; Polo Patriótico, which consisted of the Fifth Republic Movement, the Movement for Socialism, Fatherland for All, the Communist Party of Venezuela, the People's Electoral Movement and some other minor parties, and Polo Democrático consisting of Democratic Action,Copei, Project Venezuela and Convergencia.[2] The result was a victory for Polo Patriótico, which won 121 of the 128 seats, whilst an additional three seats were taken by representatives of indigenous communities elected by indigenous associations.[2] Despite the apparent high number of votes, voter turnout was only 46.2%, as each voter had 10 votes.[3]
Venezuelan Constituent Assembly election, 1999 - Wikipedia
wait here it is!
Venezuelan constitutional referendum, April 1999 - Wikipedia
A referendum on convening a Constitutional Assembly was held in Venezuela on 25 April 1999.[1] Voters were asked two questions;
Both measures were approved, with 92.4% in favour of the first question and 86.5% in favour of the second. Voter turnout was 37.8%.[2]
- Should a Constitutional Assembly be convened?[2]
- Do you agree with the President's suggestion of how the Assembly should be elected (each voter having ten votes)?[2]
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So what´s wrong with ten votes when it is about to elect an assembly? How many votes do you have at home? Zero.What?You are wrong.The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
You are wrong.The election for the sham "Constituent assembly" was the first time ever, since it was a new legislative body.
It was made up because the ruling party lost the actual legislature.
No country that respects constitutions and rights has accepted the constituent assembly as valid.
2017 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
Red is does not recognize, green is recognize.
1999 Constituent National Assembly - Wikipedia
LOL, a vote with less than 40% turnout to determine a new constitution, and each voter having 10 votes?
Wow, someone edited the article... I wonder who did that....
But take a look at the election that resulted:
Constituent Assembly elections were held in Venezuela on 25 July 1999,[1] following a referendum on April on convening one. For the election two large coalitions were created; Polo Patriótico, which consisted of the Fifth Republic Movement, the Movement for Socialism, Fatherland for All, the Communist Party of Venezuela, the People's Electoral Movement and some other minor parties, and Polo Democrático consisting of Democratic Action,Copei, Project Venezuela and Convergencia.[2] The result was a victory for Polo Patriótico, which won 121 of the 128 seats, whilst an additional three seats were taken by representatives of indigenous communities elected by indigenous associations.[2] Despite the apparent high number of votes, voter turnout was only 46.2%, as each voter had 10 votes.[3]
Venezuelan Constituent Assembly election, 1999 - Wikipedia
wait here it is!
Venezuelan constitutional referendum, April 1999 - Wikipedia
A referendum on convening a Constitutional Assembly was held in Venezuela on 25 April 1999.[1] Voters were asked two questions;
Both measures were approved, with 92.4% in favour of the first question and 86.5% in favour of the second. Voter turnout was 37.8%.[2]
- Should a Constitutional Assembly be convened?[2]
- Do you agree with the President's suggestion of how the Assembly should be elected (each voter having ten votes)?[2]
You are really trying to justify this?
Wow, I always ignored your posts because I thought you were a mindless idiot. I guess my original thought was correct.
and I have plenty of votes at different levels, and they all mean something far more than the dog and pony shows that are going on in Venezuela.
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