"Utterly Insane"....Says Elon Musk About The "Big, Beautiful Bill" Gutting All Clean Energy Incentives. And He Is Correct.

[Dr. Phosphorous]

I don't care what Nancy Mace does.

Of course not....a fellow imbecile MAGA disagreeing with you.

We certainly can't have that.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Poor Obama and Biden. They had 12 years, couldn't raise taxes on billionaires.

Yeah, well.....I guess you never heard of anything called "Congress", the "Republican Party", or the "filibuster".

 

[leftwinger]

Raise the top income tax rate to 90%. Not done by Obiden 1 or 2. Yet they chirp.

Even at 90% they collect 20% of GDP max avg over 100 years proven fact. Money moves, people move.
100 million or billionairses dont rely on 2 week paychecks you moronic pole munchers. //

 

[leftwinger]

To give tax breaks to billionaires. Thats the whole point. The only point.

What tax breaks? Income tax rates to remain the same as the last decade? Are you on medication?

 

[Kondor3]

It pains me to say this, but Elon Musk is 100% correct. This bill is a ******* disaster for the environment, our economy, and for our country.

Trump and the Republican Party are literally destroying this country.

This is one of the biggest reasons Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC) is going to vote against the bill -- it kills good-paying, green energy manufacturing jobs in North Carolina and throughout the country.

Trump wants to bring back 1970s factories from China with his stupid ******* tariffs making cheap ass shirts, shorts, toys, pots, and pans.

But good paying, high tech green energy factory jobs? Nah.....just give all those good green energy manufacturing jobs to China!!

Total insanity.


From the Washington Post. --

Congressional Republicans are poised to reverse course on U.S. energy policy by wiping out hundreds of billions of dollars in incentives for solar and wind projects as well as for consumers seeking to purchase everything from energy-saving appliances to electric cars.

The Senate’s tax bill, which cleared a key procedural hurdle Saturday, contains strict green energy cutbacks that disappointed lobbyists for solar, wind and battery companies, who hoped senators would temper some of the House’s most draconian cuts. It also imposes a new tax on existing wind and solar farms if they include materials from a foreign entity like China — a huge blow for the renewables industry, which incorporates many materials from China across its supply chain.

“They’re proposing an outright massacre with punishing new taxes on these industries,” Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) wrote in a statement on Saturday. He said Republicans added what amounts to a “death sentence” for green energy, with provisions added “in the middle of the night” Friday before voting started in the Senate.

The bill, which still must be passed by both the Senate and the House, would fulfill a major campaign pledge of President Donald Trump, who favors coal mining and oil drilling and has railed against federal green energy spending. With the reversal, executives and climate experts are expecting a sharp retreat in U.S. manufacturing and continued Chinese domination of the industry.

“The latest Senate draft bill will destroy millions of jobs in America and cause immense strategic harm to our country!” Tesla founder Elon Musk posted on X on Saturday, extending his split with the administration he served as leader of the U.S. DOGE Service. “Utterly insane and destructive. It gives handouts to industries of the past while severely damaging industries of the future.”

The new bill also eliminates consumer subsidies for rooftop solar, electric vehicles, heat pumps and other energy-efficient technologies. Homeowners will have just a few months (for electric vehicles) or until the end of the year (for heat pumps and rooftop solar) to take advantage of the credits before they expire.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/06/28/solar-green-energy-tax-bill-trump/

People stopped paying attention to Musk some months ago.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah, well.....I guess you never heard of anything called "Congress", the "Republican Party", or the "filibuster".

Which Obama and Biden tax bills almost got passed, but were stopped by a filibuster?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Which Obama and Biden tax bills almost got passed, but were stopped by a filibuster?

The more relevant question....why did Republicans pass tax cuts for billionaires in the first place?

Explain why that was a good idea or just shut the **** up.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

People stopped paying attention to Musk some months ago.

Why? Because Trump no longer likes him?

Is that how it works in fucked up MAGA World?

 

[leftwinger]

Pretty much sums it up. In 08' they started. In 20' officially a war. No they can't finish. Destroy them every minute. None are "your friend" they are evil destructive want black or Mexican imports to poison or rape and stab your children. In addition to the white problem criminals, they want more.

 

[Zincwarrior]

What tax breaks? Income tax rates to remain the same as the last decade? Are you on medication?

Lower corporate rates. Improved personal tax rates at the high end. **** those Poorz and MAGA states!

 

[leftwinger]

Lower corporate rates. Improved personal tax rates at the high end. **** those Poorz and MAGA states!

Why didn't Obiden do as you wish? Last I saw business rates 21% or 15% since 2017.

Improved at high end? Huh? Not income tax rates? More fantasy from CNN?

 

[Kondor3]

Why? Because Trump no longer likes him?

Is that how it works in fucked up MAGA World?

I dunno... ask all of the Lefties burning-down Tesla dealerships and torching Tesla automobiles...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The more relevant question....why did Republicans pass tax cuts for billionaires in the first place?

Explain why that was a good idea or just shut the **** up.

Republicans cut taxes for everyone.
It was in all the papers.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

I dunno... ask all of the Lefties burning-down Tesla dealerships and torching Tesla automobiles...

Libs never liked Musk.

What is the excuse for Trump and full-of-shit MAGA nut jobs like yourself?

 

[leftwinger]

Why? Because Trump no longer likes him?

Is that how it works in fucked up MAGA World?

I like him. Tesla a great car if you want batteries and charger. I'm greatful for Leon starting DOGE to show lwvelof waste & theft we all knew was there.

If he argued with President Trump or his people got a black eye so what? Stuff happens.

 

[jknowgood]

Even if you think climate change is a hoax, it's utter stupidity not to have incentives for clean energy. Dirty fossil fuels hurt all Americans, shortening our life spans.

But you are stupid...and there is no point talking to you about it.

You do know solar panels are not recyclable and are toxic to the environment when discarded?

 

[whitehall]

Musk's alleged opinion interpreted by WAPO? The only time hypocrite TDS lefties seem to care about "manufacturing" jobs is when they are using Chinese materials to create useless products that pretend to be "clean energy". Hypocrite lefties torched Tesla cars two months ago and now they pretend to use Tesla cars as examples of "clean energy". WTF?

 

[leftwinger]

Gj)

The more relevant question....why did Republicans pass tax cuts for billionaires in the first place?

Explain why that was a good idea or just shut the **** up.

Piglousy & Schumer demanded it for Coastal elites upset with SALT cap. No longer huge Property taxes would be subsidized. Stain 101…not for me.

 

[Foxfyre]

It pains me to say this, but Elon Musk is 100% correct. This bill is a ******* disaster for the environment, our economy, and for our country.

Trump and the Republican Party are literally destroying this country.

This is one of the biggest reasons Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC) is going to vote against the bill -- it kills good-paying, green energy manufacturing jobs in North Carolina and throughout the country.

Trump wants to bring back 1970s factories from China with his stupid ******* tariffs making cheap ass shirts, shorts, toys, pots, and pans.

But good paying, high tech green energy factory jobs? Nah.....just give all those good green energy manufacturing jobs to China!!

Total insanity.


From the Washington Post. --

Congressional Republicans are poised to reverse course on U.S. energy policy by wiping out hundreds of billions of dollars in incentives for solar and wind projects as well as for consumers seeking to purchase everything from energy-saving appliances to electric cars.

The Senate’s tax bill, which cleared a key procedural hurdle Saturday, contains strict green energy cutbacks that disappointed lobbyists for solar, wind and battery companies, who hoped senators would temper some of the House’s most draconian cuts. It also imposes a new tax on existing wind and solar farms if they include materials from a foreign entity like China — a huge blow for the renewables industry, which incorporates many materials from China across its supply chain.

“They’re proposing an outright massacre with punishing new taxes on these industries,” Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) wrote in a statement on Saturday. He said Republicans added what amounts to a “death sentence” for green energy, with provisions added “in the middle of the night” Friday before voting started in the Senate.

The bill, which still must be passed by both the Senate and the House, would fulfill a major campaign pledge of President Donald Trump, who favors coal mining and oil drilling and has railed against federal green energy spending. With the reversal, executives and climate experts are expecting a sharp retreat in U.S. manufacturing and continued Chinese domination of the industry.

“The latest Senate draft bill will destroy millions of jobs in America and cause immense strategic harm to our country!” Tesla founder Elon Musk posted on X on Saturday, extending his split with the administration he served as leader of the U.S. DOGE Service. “Utterly insane and destructive. It gives handouts to industries of the past while severely damaging industries of the future.”

The new bill also eliminates consumer subsidies for rooftop solar, electric vehicles, heat pumps and other energy-efficient technologies. Homeowners will have just a few months (for electric vehicles) or until the end of the year (for heat pumps and rooftop solar) to take advantage of the credits before they expire.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/06/28/solar-green-energy-tax-bill-trump/

You cannot reduce spending without goring somebody's ox.

Trillions and trillions of dollars or pounds or Deusche marks or krones or whatever have been poured into green energy without a single model producing accurate results yet, without a single prediction coming true yet, without reducing the Co2 in the atmosphere by a single particle.

The so-called climate scientists just shrug off their wrong predictions and move the goal posts on down the road.

If wind and solar are viable energy sources they should be able to pay for themselves as all other energy sources do.

If electric cars are viable and what the public wants to buy then they should pay for themselves.

We cannot go on spending billions and trillions more than our revenues without eventually bankrupting the country which on paper it already is. If we do not cut spending where it makes sense to cut spending--cutting spending on things that have produced questionable or ineffective or no results is an excellent place to do that--we will never get spending under control.

 

[Mac-7]

I dont understand killing subsidies for homeowners investing in devices that help reduce their elecyric bills. Why?

If the homeowners are going to benefit from the “investment” why do taxpayers have to pay for it?