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[LA RAM FAN]

excellent stuff there.

Recently Dave Peacock made this statement: "It’s possible we have different ownership of the (Rams) because I think (Kroenke) is really committed to Los Angeles,” Peacock said. “I’m not against Stan going to Los Angeles, I just don’t want our team there... This is why we’re spending most of our time with the league — we think this is an NFL issue.”
Can someone put their hand on this man's forehead either to bless his with more wisdom or check for a fever? What Dave? Really Dave? I just love these random/general personal opinion statements that are place at the street corner to be collected by media and the masses. Ok Dave, so let us start with "Kroenke is committed to Los Angeles" that is true, the man has and is investing millions in Inglewood. Now to the sour grapes part: he will sell the Rams, buy another team and move them to LA, right? Wrong Dave! A few questions to consider: 1- which ownership group/man in StL are ready to buy the Rams in the next 5 months? Answer: 2- which team is on sale and is willing to sell to Kroenke? Answer: 3- which team on sale is not currently under lease to move? Answer: 4- what significant benefit makes Kroenke sell his team? Answer: Here is the thing Dave Peacock, in 5 months this LA, NFL market party will be done, by the time the owner's meeting in October, the stadium will be selected, the team will be identified, the relocation fee will be agreed up and the relocation date will be moved up. This is why the LA 6 committee was formed this year. Let us take question 1, not a single person or entity has stepped up to buy the Rams and commit money to build Riverfront Stadium, the Rams are valued at ~ $930 million + $450 million stadium cost (and God know what else) so minimum you need $1.4 billion to buy and keep them in StL! That narrows the field, which multi billionaire is Johnny on the spot to by the Rams Dave? Come on, gives us some names. Question 2, not one team has hinted itself on the market to be sold in the next three years, with NFL revenue estimated to go from 9 billion annually to 25 billion in the next few decades, why would anyone sell? Question 3, we know Inglewood will be done in 2018, so Kroenke must have ownership of a team or his state of the art $1.86 billion stadium will be empty in 2018! besides the Rams, only two other teams are year to year in lease: Chargers and Raiders. Neither are on sale. Question 4, it make no sense for Kroenke to sell the Rams. The perfect team to move is one with a rich/deep rooted history in LA like the Rams. Why would Kroenke forfeit that value? The Rams are the least valued team in the NFL at $930 million, if Stan, for example, were to sell the Rams to buy the Raiders then he would have to pay another $40 million to cover. The Chargers have minimal fan base in LA and the Raiders have a thug image in LA. Do you really think Kroenke will trade the clean image of the Rams in LA, for corporate sponsorship, to the bar-fight image of the Raiders AND pay an extra $40 million? If Kroenke sells his Rams he will have to pay at least 15% capital gains tax on any part of the Rams that has appreciated under his ownership, that would be millions! Why would he do that Dave? Because he wants to do StL a "favor" the same StL that broke their lease with him, waited to the last minute to offer him a new stadium, took him to arbitration, lost and still didn't renovate the EDJ dome to keep it top tier, and is the lowest valued NFL team in the league in StL. And Dave, you want all this logistics and logic to make sense in 5 months' time? Are you ******* crazy? It's not your team, the LA Rams are Mr. Enos Stanley Kroenke's team!!

"Demolition crews imploded the old Hollywood Park Grandstands at the closed racetrack Sunday morning. crews are making room for a new development on the Inglewood site. A NFL stadium is part of that project.

The stadium is scheduled to break ground in December."

Racetrack demolished in California to make way for Rams owner s new stadium FOX2now.com

Yep anybody who STILL says the Rams are not coming back to LA next year has been on a deserted island the last few months. the st louis apologists need to give it up saying this is all for LEVERAGE which someone on here earlier mentioned.

you dont have a landmark demo'd if its all for leverage to get a new stadium in st louis which is not happening since the city is bankrupt and does not have the funds to build one and the owner is not going to put any money into it but has in inglewood for an NFL stadium.

so much for what someone drinking koolaide had to say earlier that nobody is batting an eye in southern calififornia over the Rams coming back.they are not batting an eye out there,thats WHY they demo'd that building for Kroneke to build an NFL stadium in LA and has not committed any money to a city that is a dump because its all for LEVERAGE.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Hey Trinnity,Alex,something else i forgot to mention earlier is that with the Rams coming back next year,I mentioned how the rivalry with the 49ers "which has been dead ever since they left," will be renewed and how it doesnt matter if it a season when both teams are really bad because of their long history together.

Its the same as with the packers and bears,chiefs and raiders,doesnt matter if it a season when both are really bad,when those two teams i mentioned in those two examples play, they always pack them in because of their long storied history and rivarly.same thing will happen with the 49ers and Rams.

also got two more examples that they have one foot out the door and are as good as gone. For the first time since they moved to st louis,this is the first year that they have cancelled their yearly fanfest they have each year before the season and thats because they have had a 20% dropoff in season ticket sales which is no surprise since everyone in st louis knows they are gone after this season. that place will be a ghosttown to play in this year.

Hard to believe it will be worse than last year which was bad enough.Here is how bad it was last year. on a monday night game against their long time arch rival "when they were in LA of course." the 49ers,just five minutes before the game started in the pregame show,steve young said-I look around here and all I see is empty seats everywhere.

also take a look at this article.the employees in st louis whos checks normally run through may,have been set to be cut off this year after february.anybody who still thinks they are staying in st louis after this season better stop drinking that koolaide.lol.

St. Louis Rams contracts hint at relocation - St. Louis Business Journal

 

[LA RAM FAN]

here is a good video on it from a RAIDERS fan who also says the Rams are as good as gone from st louis after this year and headed back to LA.He starts talking about it after the 25 minute mark.Its very interesting because he talks about the raiders and chargers stadium situation as well.If you got 40 minutes to spare,its a good listen.very informative.

 

[Papageorgio]

I just wanted to see the picture of the idiot mayor who declared today Houston Rockets Day in Houston just because they made it to a conference finals (and lost in 5 games).

That's what happens when people settle for mediocrity.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

This will be a fun read when I get around to it:

Bill Russell s Celtics Were Great. Tim Duncan s Spurs Have Been Better. FiveThirtyEight

I'm not sure if all the Spurs teams than all those Celtic teams. The teams were a lot deeper in the 60's and they played each other a lot.

My thoughts anyways.

I finally got around to reading it. It was definitely an interesting read. Some of the logic was a bit stretched to fit narratives; but thought provoking nonetheless. I did like the reminder on Bill Russell being 10-0 in Game 7's. That's an amazing stat.

Greatest so-called dynasties to me would be:

1. The 80's Boston Celtics. The Big Three was the real big three. Everything since are imposters by comparison. And I know other teams have had more elongated success. But when you're competing against so many other great teams from that period and suffering those injuries and even death (Len Bias), well some glory is bound to be robbed. No team will ever be better than the 86 Celtics because of how dominant that front line was and how well they passed. If they had one flaw it would be the lack of a great perimeter defender; something not needed so much in that era though.

2. The Spurs of the late 90's to today. Tim Duncan as the center piece with a lot of quality players from HOF'er like The Admiral, Parker and Manu to great perimeter defenders like Bowen and Kawhi and all as the Spurs win 50 plus every year for however many years it's been; practically two decades. Ironically, they underplayed in some of The Finals they won. But they were robbed in other years and were possibly denied what would be Russell like championship numbers.

3. The Showtime Lakers. They were the benificiaries of a much weaker conference in the 80's. And they don't win that 87 Finals if the C's are healthy and if the refs don't make a BS call in Game 4. But I give them credit for actually improving in 87 and 88 by adding Thompson and drafting Green. Those moves were tough in the wake of Len Bias dying and McHale cracking his ankle.

4. The sixties Celts. Winning 11 times in 13 years is obviously awesome. It's enough to make me question whether I'm under-rating them.

5. The early 80's Sixers. There window of greatness wasn't so big in part due to Dr. J being a bit past prime. But one through twelve, one of the deepest teams if not the deepest team you'll ever see.

6. The 90's Bulls. They were pretty much the underdog in most or all of their finals and in some conference finals and they always came out smelling like a rose. That to me says more about the state of the NBA. Nonetheless, having quality for that long and two awesome players like MJ and Pippen can't be written off completely.

 

[Alex.]

 

[LA RAM FAN]

speaking of traiter Al,I sure hope the Warriors win it all.They deserve a championship more than any team out there since the city of oakland just might be losing ALL of their sports franchises soon.

The Warriors seem as good as gone after a couple years,destined to move back to San Fran,the A's might move to san jose around the same time,and the Chokeland Faiders if they move,wont even be in the state anymore.LA is not an option for them so if they left,it would be to San Antonio.

I hope the warriors win and when they move to San Fran,they suck for the next 40 years same as they have since they been in Oakland.I dont feel good about them beating cleveland though.

They are all healthy where cleveland has some injurys yet the warriors have lost one game to them in oakland and nearly blew the first game as well having to win in ovetime.

they should easily be blowing them away under the circumstances.I dont think their mind is in the game.i think they are too much distracted about the move to San Fran.

I cant stand the game of basketball but i so badly want the warriors to win it all for their city.the last championship they had was in 89 when the A's swept the Giants.Thats a long time.over 25 years.I had to wait over 25 years for the royals to make it back to the playoffs so i know what it feels like to go for such a long time without a championship.It sucks.But the way the warriors been playing,I just dont see them coming back to win.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

33 Incredible Larry Bird Trash Talk Stories That Prove Why He s The Best Trash Talker of All Time - Viral Hoops

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Adam Carolla Says Bill Simmons Will Talk a Bunch of Poop When His ESPN Contract Ends The Big Lead

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

You Won t Believe These HORRIFIC Athletic Wardrobe Fails AfternoonSpecial

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

 

[Papageorgio]

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This should help cut down Duncan minutes.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

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This should help cut down Duncan minutes.

Yea, although the minutes didn't seem to have a negative effect on Duncan last year as he was basically the MVP of the Clips series. I think relegating Timmy to 22-27 mins a game will definitely pay dividends though.

Ginobili having to play the big minutes in December and January had him worn down. Parker was out of shape too. That's why keeping Green and Mills are big. Hopefully, the Spurs find more back court help. They just had to get rid of Corey Joseph.

Spurs need a center to bang about 5-18 mins a game cos Splitter and Baynes are gone. But no doubt the Spurs are stacked at the 4 with Duncan, Aldridge, Diaw and West.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

somebody here must feel pretty stupid now in their rants that the Rams arent coming back to LA. ,that kroneke made that land purchase merely only for "i love this word." LEVERAGE.

here,let me give you a kleenix to wipe the egg off your face.

LEVERAGE? oh really? is that why Kronke is not even trying to get something done in st louis,not returning phone calls from the governor there,is that why the Rams reached a verbal agreement with USC to use their facility for the next couple years while construction starts in Inglewood in december,is that why the NFL is discussing with USC and UCLA about using one of their facilities for the next couple years till the stadium is ready because Kroneke wants to stay in st louis because its all for LEVERAGE?


NFL pursues plans for temporary venues in L.A. market for 2016 season - LA Times


I'm seriously beginning to wonder if you really even live in california like you claim the fact you make untrue statements that people dont bat an eye out there on the Rams coming back and the fact you are sounding like the people in st louis who are in denial they are leaving.the fact that you have this delusion they are staying like they do in st louis.


Even this poster at keep the rams in st louis named randy dimwiddle who LA fans rightfully so refer to as randy dimwit recently posted this at that site after seeing that article.even some of the st louis people now see the light and are awake they are as good as gone after this season. this is what he posted at that site-Mr. Dimwit is starting to finally see the light. I guess he couldn't get anyone to distribute his SL Rams posters.

Randy Dimwiddle-Looks like we are wasting a lot of time on the Rams.If they want to leave,we need to show them the door.


oh and I guess the words of Coach John Robinson mean nothing to you either?



the ONLY question that still remains,is will the chargers join the Rams.


John Robinson entire family been in the know since last year. Rams reached out to the family to do repair PR when they come back. Also its known coaches have looked for homes out in the LA basin. To even make this better Rams have let go of PR and marketing ppl in STL while they are in hiring process of those same slots in LA. Bet your bottom dollar this is happening in 2016.

 

[Papageorgio]

^^^^troll ***** alert^^^^

No one cares.

 

[Papageorgio]

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This should help cut down Duncan minutes.

Yea, although the minutes didn't seem to have a negative effect on Duncan last year as he was basically the MVP of the Clips series. I think relegating Timmy to 22-27 mins a game will definitely pay dividends though.

Ginobili having to play the big minutes in December and January had him worn down. Parker was out of shape too. That's why keeping Green and Mills are big. Hopefully, the Spurs find more back court help. They just had to get rid of Corey Joseph.

Spurs need a center to bang about 5-18 mins a game cos Splitter and Baynes are gone. But no doubt the Spurs are stacked at the 4 with Duncan, Aldridge, Diaw and West.

I don't see anyone beating them next year in the playoffs, providing they all stay healthy.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

someone farted in here.^

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

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This should help cut down Duncan minutes.

Yea, although the minutes didn't seem to have a negative effect on Duncan last year as he was basically the MVP of the Clips series. I think relegating Timmy to 22-27 mins a game will definitely pay dividends though.

Ginobili having to play the big minutes in December and January had him worn down. Parker was out of shape too. That's why keeping Green and Mills are big. Hopefully, the Spurs find more back court help. They just had to get rid of Corey Joseph.

Spurs need a center to bang about 5-18 mins a game cos Splitter and Baynes are gone. But no doubt the Spurs are stacked at the 4 with Duncan, Aldridge, Diaw and West.

I don't see anyone beating them next year in the playoffs, providing they all stay healthy.

They have their weaknesses; but they definitely are the favorites on paper at this point.

Either way, I don't see GS repeating.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

somebody here must feel pretty stupid now in their rants that the Rams arent coming back to LA. ,that kroneke made that land purchase merely only for "i love this word." LEVERAGE.

here,let me give you a kleenix to wipe the egg off your face.

LEVERAGE? oh really? is that why Kronke is not even trying to get something done in st louis,not returning phone calls from the governor there,is that why the Rams reached a verbal agreement with USC to use their facility for the next couple years while construction starts in Inglewood in december,is that why the NFL is discussing with USC and UCLA about using one of their facilities for the next couple years till the stadium is ready because Kroneke wants to stay in st louis because its all for LEVERAGE?


NFL pursues plans for temporary venues in L.A. market for 2016 season - LA Times


I'm seriously beginning to wonder if you really even live in california like you claim the fact you make untrue statements that people dont bat an eye out there on the Rams coming back and the fact you are sounding like the people in st louis who are in denial they are leaving.the fact that you have this delusion they are staying like they do in st louis.


Even this poster at keep the rams in st louis named randy dimwiddle who LA fans rightfully so refer to as randy dimwit recently posted this at that site after seeing that article.even some of the st louis people now see the light and are awake they are as good as gone after this season. this is what he posted at that site-Mr. Dimwit is starting to finally see the light. I guess he couldn't get anyone to distribute his SL Rams posters.

Randy Dimwiddle-Looks like we are wasting a lot of time on the Rams.If they want to leave,we need to show them the door.


oh and I guess the words of Coach John Robinson mean nothing to you either?



the ONLY question that still remains,is will the chargers join the Rams.


John Robinson entire family been in the know since last year. Rams reached out to the family to do repair PR when they come back. Also its known coaches have looked for homes out in the LA basin. To even make this better Rams have let go of PR and marketing ppl in STL while they are in hiring process of those same slots in LA. Bet your bottom dollar this is happening in 2016.

I want to make this perfectly clear that I don't care one bit about your obsession with the Rams moving to LA or not. But if the Rams move to LA and fire Fischer and hire John Robinson as their coach, I'm in.