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excellent stuff there.

Recently Dave Peacock made this statement: "It’s possible we have different ownership of the (Rams) because I think (Kroenke) is really committed to Los Angeles,” Peacock said. “I’m not against Stan going to Los Angeles, I just don’t want our team there... This is why we’re spending most of our time with the league — we think this is an NFL issue.”
Can someone put their hand on this man's forehead either to bless his with more wisdom or check for a fever? What Dave? Really Dave? I just love these random/general personal opinion statements that are place at the street corner to be collected by media and the masses. Ok Dave, so let us start with "Kroenke is committed to Los Angeles" that is true, the man has and is investing millions in Inglewood. Now to the sour grapes part: he will sell the Rams, buy another team and move them to LA, right? Wrong Dave! A few questions to consider: 1- which ownership group/man in StL are ready to buy the Rams in the next 5 months? Answer: 2- which team is on sale and is willing to sell to Kroenke? Answer: 3- which team on sale is not currently under lease to move? Answer: 4- what significant benefit makes Kroenke sell his team? Answer: Here is the thing Dave Peacock, in 5 months this LA, NFL market party will be done, by the time the owner's meeting in October, the stadium will be selected, the team will be identified, the relocation fee will be agreed up and the relocation date will be moved up. This is why the LA 6 committee was formed this year. Let us take question 1, not a single person or entity has stepped up to buy the Rams and commit money to build Riverfront Stadium, the Rams are valued at ~ $930 million + $450 million stadium cost (and God know what else) so minimum you need $1.4 billion to buy and keep them in StL! That narrows the field, which multi billionaire is Johnny on the spot to by the Rams Dave? Come on, gives us some names. Question 2, not one team has hinted itself on the market to be sold in the next three years, with NFL revenue estimated to go from 9 billion annually to 25 billion in the next few decades, why would anyone sell? Question 3, we know Inglewood will be done in 2018, so Kroenke must have ownership of a team or his state of the art $1.86 billion stadium will be empty in 2018! besides the Rams, only two other teams are year to year in lease: Chargers and Raiders. Neither are on sale. Question 4, it make no sense for Kroenke to sell the Rams. The perfect team to move is one with a rich/deep rooted history in LA like the Rams. Why would Kroenke forfeit that value? The Rams are the least valued team in the NFL at $930 million, if Stan, for example, were to sell the Rams to buy the Raiders then he would have to pay another $40 million to cover. The Chargers have minimal fan base in LA and the Raiders have a thug image in LA. Do you really think Kroenke will trade the clean image of the Rams in LA, for corporate sponsorship, to the bar-fight image of the Raiders AND pay an extra $40 million? If Kroenke sells his Rams he will have to pay at least 15% capital gains tax on any part of the Rams that has appreciated under his ownership, that would be millions! Why would he do that Dave? Because he wants to do StL a "favor" the same StL that broke their lease with him, waited to the last minute to offer him a new stadium, took him to arbitration, lost and still didn't renovate the EDJ dome to keep it top tier, and is the lowest valued NFL team in the league in StL. And Dave, you want all this logistics and logic to make sense in 5 months' time? Are you ******* crazy? It's not your team, the LA Rams are Mr. Enos Stanley Kroenke's team!!
 
I think the Warriors and the Clips. And the winner wins it all.
 
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I was coming back looking for your reply and I just noticed that I posted a few posts on your thread by accident.My bad.I meant to post those last four posts on MY thread but i posted them on yours by accident,sorry about that,again my bad.:banghead::mad:

Post # 1678 the FIRST post of mine was the ONLY post i intentionally meant to post here on this thread.that was in reply to your rambling on my Rams thread.the last four were by accident,they were meant to be posted on MY thread for MY benefit.Now since I spotted my mistake,i got to go post them on my thread now.the hour in a half time has elapsed so unfortunately,I cant delete the last four posts I accidently posted here now.as I said,my bad.:mad:
 
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I think the Warriors and the Clips. And the winner wins it all.
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If the Rockets choke Game 7 away at home, which can happen. Clips were better than GS last year; but I think they're running on fumes. The Warriors pretty much got a free trip to the Finals when the Spurs went down.
 
cool to see you admit defeat from post# 1678 of mine after i took you to school there.:biggrin: the one post i posted on PURPOSE and meant to on this thread.
 
Nick Wagoner and ESPN'S John Clayton at the 41 min markhttp://t.co/91EeIlC7lk

Wagoner puts Rams likelihood of staying at 20%.

Wagoner also vindicates me what i told you before that Kroneke did not make the move this year because had he done that,Spanos doesnt have the LA threat anymore to use as leverage for a new stadium in san diego.:thup:

the rest of it before all that is good stuff as well talking about deflategate.:thup:
 
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Yep,looks like Stan Kronke plans to stay in st louis next year,thats why at the NFL owners meetings in Arizona in march he did not attend the st louis presentation which lasted a mere ten minutes with no questions from the owners asked and then when the Inglewood project was presented later on after that,Stan Kroneke walked in and gave a 45 minute presentation on it.talk about a slap in the face to Peacock who was representing the st louis plan.:biggrin:

that had to be embarrassing and humiliating to him not having the owner of the team there talk about the st louis plan ONLY to come in later and give a very detailed through plan on Inglewood.:lmao:

Face it dude,this isnt like years past where LA never had an owner who was serious about moving the team.:happy-1::biggrin: you dont go and spend MILLIONS of dollars for land for LEVERAGE,only the koolaide drinkers in st lou still are using the word LEVERAGE.:biggrin:

one st louis apologist who originally came on my thread a year ago who said kroeke was just using the land purchase for leverage even HE has now seen the light and is back peddling saying he never said he never the Rams were not coming back.:haha: which is what I knew he would do because he always lies when he is proven wrong.

oh and the final nail in the coffin for the Rams in st lou after this season is Goodel has said there will only be TWO teams playing in southern california in 2016 as well as ALSO saying LA will play host to the superbowl in 2018 which would be impossible to do if you dont have a team playing in that city.

It will obviously be the Rams because the inglewood project is LIGHT YEARS ahead of that laughable raiders/chargers carson project which would not be ready at the earliest until a year later and the NFL is not going to change their minds to accompany the chargers and raiders pathetic carson project.Lets not forger that carson is on a toxic landfill which is why nobody has ever built anything there on that land.:biggrin:

thats why I keep saying the chargers and raiders,they ARE using LA for leverage.:biggrin:

Like I said before the ONLY reason Kroneke did not make the move this year like he easily could have,is he is allowing Spanos to use LA as leverage for a new stadium in san diego.If Kroneke makes the move this year,then Spanos loses his leverage for a new stadium.

I am thinking the chargers might be joining the Rams in Inglewood a couple years after Kroneke moves them next year since that is what many sportswriters think as well.
 
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NFL Stadium Finance Committee voted 8-2 in favor of Rams to LA and for Inglewood to begin construction.

also you might try and drive by the former hollywood racetrack park in Inglewood and you will notice there are bulldozers there and they are getting ready to demo the racetrack which proves Inglewood mayor James Butts was not blowing smoke and being sincere when he said construction on the NFL stadium will begin in december this year.:biggrin:

here is further proof on that as well I am not blowing smoke on that and they are going to demo the place.lol

Early Sunday morning, May 31 - Join Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams as we say farewell to a Southern California landmark as it paves the way for the rise of the City of Champions Revitalization Project and the future home stadium of the LOS ANGELES RAMS!!!

The legendary Hollywood Park Racetrack grandstands will be destroyed in a controlled demolition scheduled for 6:00 AM.

We will be in the Target parking lot (3471 W. Century Blvd - Inglewood, CA )
 
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Yep,looks like Stan Kronke plans to stay in st louis next year,thats why at the NFL owners meetings in Arizona in march he did not attend the st louis presentation which lasted a mere ten minutes with no questions from the owners asked and then when the Inglewood project was presented later on after that,Stan Kroneke walked in and gave a 45 minute presentation on it.talk about a slap in the face to Peacock who was representing the st louis plan.:biggrin:

that had to be embarrassing and humiliating to him not having the owner of the team there talk about the st louis plan ONLY to come in later and give a very detailed through plan on Inglewood.:lmao:

Face it dude,this isnt like years past where LA never had an owner who was serious about moving the team.:happy-1::biggrin: you dont go and spend MILLIONS of dollars for land for LEVERAGE,only the koolaide drinkers in st lou still are using the word LEVERAGE.:biggrin:

one st louis apologist who originally came on my thread a year ago who said kroeke was just using the land purchase for leverage even HE has now seen the light and is back peddling saying he never said he never the Rams were not coming back.:haha: which is what I knew he would do because he always lies when he is proven wrong.

oh and the final nail in the coffin for the Rams in st lou after this season is Goodel has said there will only be TWO teams playing in southern california in 2016 as well as ALSO saying LA will play host to the superbowl in 2018 which would be impossible to do if you dont have a team playing in that city.

It will obviously be the Rams because the inglewood project is LIGHT YEARS ahead of that laughable raiders/chargers carson project which would not be ready at the earliest until a year later and the NFL is not going to change their minds to accompany the chargers and raiders pathetic carson project.Lets not forger that carson is on a toxic landfill which is why nobody has ever built anything there on that land.:biggrin:

thats why I keep saying the chargers and raiders,they ARE using LA for leverage.:biggrin:

Like I said before the ONLY reason Kroneke did not make the move this year like he easily could have,is he is allowing Spanos to use LA as leverage for a new stadium in san diego.If Kroneke makes the move this year,then Spanos loses his leverage for a new stadium.

I am thinking the chargers might be joining the Rams in Inglewood a couple years after Kroneke moves them next year since that is what many sportswriters think as well.
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just to clear things up here i made one mistake in my numbers there.I was listening to an interview with Inglewood mayor James Butts "whom I have personally meant face to face by the way and got to talk to and who has had meetings with Kroneke as well."

In listening to an interview on sports radio he gave yesterday,he set me straight that it is actually 2020 the year the NFL plans to host a superbowl and they want an NFL stadium built there by 2018 to do so.

again that will be impossible for the carson project to go ahead because that stadium will NEVER be ready by then.Inglewood is light years ahead of carson and will be ready.Oh and mayor butts as well said yesterday what i just mentioned that this sunday they are going to demo hollywood park.

2016 LA RAMS will be playing in either the rose bowl or the LA coliseum baby.:banana:

crossing my fingers that it is the LA coliseum since that is where most of their history in LA is.
 
The NHL has two 7 game semis, really good games this year.

So do the Lightening win or do the Rangers go 5-0 in elimination games in the playoffs?
 
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The NHL has two 7 game semis, really good games this year.

So do the Lightening win or do the Rangers go 5-0 in elimination games in the playoffs?
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Oh, I was out of town. The Ducks dropped Game 6, huh. Yea, the hockey playoffs have been way better than basketball. I wish I had watched more. But the Kings not making it made less interested from the outset.
 
9/11 inside job said:
NFL Stadium Finance Committee voted 8-2 in favor of Rams to LA and for Inglewood to begin construction.

also you might try and drive by the former hollywood racetrack park in Inglewood and you will notice there are bulldozers there and they are getting ready to demo the racetrack which proves Inglewood mayor James Butts was not blowing smoke and being sincere when he said construction on the NFL stadium will begin in december this year.:biggrin:

here is further proof on that as well I am not blowing smoke on that and they are going to demo the place.lol

Early Sunday morning, May 31 - Join Bring Back the Los Angeles Rams as we say farewell to a Southern California landmark as it paves the way for the rise of the City of Champions Revitalization Project and the future home stadium of the LOS ANGELES RAMS!!!

The legendary Hollywood Park Racetrack grandstands will be destroyed in a controlled demolition scheduled for 6:00 AM.

We will be in the Target parking lot (3471 W. Century Blvd - Inglewood, CA )
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This is not the worst news
 
9/11 inside job said:
excellent stuff there.

Recently Dave Peacock made this statement: "It’s possible we have different ownership of the (Rams) because I think (Kroenke) is really committed to Los Angeles,” Peacock said. “I’m not against Stan going to Los Angeles, I just don’t want our team there... This is why we’re spending most of our time with the league — we think this is an NFL issue.”
Can someone put their hand on this man's forehead either to bless his with more wisdom or check for a fever? What Dave? Really Dave? I just love these random/general personal opinion statements that are place at the street corner to be collected by media and the masses. Ok Dave, so let us start with "Kroenke is committed to Los Angeles" that is true, the man has and is investing millions in Inglewood. Now to the sour grapes part: he will sell the Rams, buy another team and move them to LA, right? Wrong Dave! A few questions to consider: 1- which ownership group/man in StL are ready to buy the Rams in the next 5 months? Answer: 2- which team is on sale and is willing to sell to Kroenke? Answer: 3- which team on sale is not currently under lease to move? Answer: 4- what significant benefit makes Kroenke sell his team? Answer: Here is the thing Dave Peacock, in 5 months this LA, NFL market party will be done, by the time the owner's meeting in October, the stadium will be selected, the team will be identified, the relocation fee will be agreed up and the relocation date will be moved up. This is why the LA 6 committee was formed this year. Let us take question 1, not a single person or entity has stepped up to buy the Rams and commit money to build Riverfront Stadium, the Rams are valued at ~ $930 million + $450 million stadium cost (and God know what else) so minimum you need $1.4 billion to buy and keep them in StL! That narrows the field, which multi billionaire is Johnny on the spot to by the Rams Dave? Come on, gives us some names. Question 2, not one team has hinted itself on the market to be sold in the next three years, with NFL revenue estimated to go from 9 billion annually to 25 billion in the next few decades, why would anyone sell? Question 3, we know Inglewood will be done in 2018, so Kroenke must have ownership of a team or his state of the art $1.86 billion stadium will be empty in 2018! besides the Rams, only two other teams are year to year in lease: Chargers and Raiders. Neither are on sale. Question 4, it make no sense for Kroenke to sell the Rams. The perfect team to move is one with a rich/deep rooted history in LA like the Rams. Why would Kroenke forfeit that value? The Rams are the least valued team in the NFL at $930 million, if Stan, for example, were to sell the Rams to buy the Raiders then he would have to pay another $40 million to cover. The Chargers have minimal fan base in LA and the Raiders have a thug image in LA. Do you really think Kroenke will trade the clean image of the Rams in LA, for corporate sponsorship, to the bar-fight image of the Raiders AND pay an extra $40 million? If Kroenke sells his Rams he will have to pay at least 15% capital gains tax on any part of the Rams that has appreciated under his ownership, that would be millions! Why would he do that Dave? Because he wants to do StL a "favor" the same StL that broke their lease with him, waited to the last minute to offer him a new stadium, took him to arbitration, lost and still didn't renovate the EDJ dome to keep it top tier, and is the lowest valued NFL team in the league in StL. And Dave, you want all this logistics and logic to make sense in 5 months' time? Are you ******* crazy? It's not your team, the LA Rams are Mr. Enos Stanley Kroenke's team!!
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"Demolition crews imploded the old Hollywood Park Grandstands at the closed racetrack Sunday morning. crews are making room for a new development on the Inglewood site. A NFL stadium is part of that project.

The stadium is scheduled to break ground in December."

Racetrack demolished in California to make way for Rams owner s new stadium FOX2now.com
 
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Yep,looks like Stan Kronke plans to stay in st louis next year,thats why at the NFL owners meetings in Arizona in march he did not attend the st louis presentation which lasted a mere ten minutes with no questions from the owners asked and then when the Inglewood project was presented later on after that,Stan Kroneke walked in and gave a 45 minute presentation on it.talk about a slap in the face to Peacock who was representing the st louis plan.:biggrin:

that had to be embarrassing and humiliating to him not having the owner of the team there talk about the st louis plan ONLY to come in later and give a very detailed through plan on Inglewood.:lmao:

Face it dude,this isnt like years past where LA never had an owner who was serious about moving the team.:happy-1::biggrin: you dont go and spend MILLIONS of dollars for land for LEVERAGE,only the koolaide drinkers in st lou still are using the word LEVERAGE.:biggrin:

one st louis apologist who originally came on my thread a year ago who said kroeke was just using the land purchase for leverage even HE has now seen the light and is back peddling saying he never said he never the Rams were not coming back.:haha: which is what I knew he would do because he always lies when he is proven wrong.

oh and the final nail in the coffin for the Rams in st lou after this season is Goodel has said there will only be TWO teams playing in southern california in 2016 as well as ALSO saying LA will play host to the superbowl in 2018 which would be impossible to do if you dont have a team playing in that city.

It will obviously be the Rams because the inglewood project is LIGHT YEARS ahead of that laughable raiders/chargers carson project which would not be ready at the earliest until a year later and the NFL is not going to change their minds to accompany the chargers and raiders pathetic carson project.Lets not forger that carson is on a toxic landfill which is why nobody has ever built anything there on that land.:biggrin:

thats why I keep saying the chargers and raiders,they ARE using LA for leverage.:biggrin:

Like I said before the ONLY reason Kroneke did not make the move this year like he easily could have,is he is allowing Spanos to use LA as leverage for a new stadium in san diego.If Kroneke makes the move this year,then Spanos loses his leverage for a new stadium.

I am thinking the chargers might be joining the Rams in Inglewood a couple years after Kroneke moves them next year since that is what many sportswriters think as well.
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just to clear things up here i made one mistake in my numbers there.I was listening to an interview with Inglewood mayor James Butts "whom I have personally meant face to face by the way and got to talk to and who has had meetings with Kroneke as well."

In listening to an interview on sports radio he gave yesterday,he set me straight that it is actually 2020 the year the NFL plans to host a superbowl and they want an NFL stadium built there by 2018 to do so.

again that will be impossible for the carson project to go ahead because that stadium will NEVER be ready by then.Inglewood is light years ahead of carson and will be ready.Oh and mayor butts as well said yesterday what i just mentioned that this sunday they are going to demo hollywood park.

2016 LA RAMS will be playing in either the rose bowl or the LA coliseum baby.:banana:

crossing my fingers that it is the LA coliseum since that is where most of their history in LA is.
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Only good I can see if they do move is that they will be a west coast team and located in the geographical area of the NFC West. Great for my team as they won't have to travel so far to play them nor have an early game with someone from their own division
 
On this day in 1941, Lou Gehrig died of ALS.... Less than two years earlier he said goodbye to the Yankees fans:

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I just wanted to see the picture of the idiot mayor who declared today Houston Rockets Day in Houston just because they made it to a conference finals (and lost in 5 games).

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TrinityPower said:
9/11 inside job said:
9/11 inside job said:
Yep,looks like Stan Kronke plans to stay in st louis next year,thats why at the NFL owners meetings in Arizona in march he did not attend the st louis presentation which lasted a mere ten minutes with no questions from the owners asked and then when the Inglewood project was presented later on after that,Stan Kroneke walked in and gave a 45 minute presentation on it.talk about a slap in the face to Peacock who was representing the st louis plan.:biggrin:

that had to be embarrassing and humiliating to him not having the owner of the team there talk about the st louis plan ONLY to come in later and give a very detailed through plan on Inglewood.:lmao:

Face it dude,this isnt like years past where LA never had an owner who was serious about moving the team.:happy-1::biggrin: you dont go and spend MILLIONS of dollars for land for LEVERAGE,only the koolaide drinkers in st lou still are using the word LEVERAGE.:biggrin:

one st louis apologist who originally came on my thread a year ago who said kroeke was just using the land purchase for leverage even HE has now seen the light and is back peddling saying he never said he never the Rams were not coming back.:haha: which is what I knew he would do because he always lies when he is proven wrong.

oh and the final nail in the coffin for the Rams in st lou after this season is Goodel has said there will only be TWO teams playing in southern california in 2016 as well as ALSO saying LA will play host to the superbowl in 2018 which would be impossible to do if you dont have a team playing in that city.

It will obviously be the Rams because the inglewood project is LIGHT YEARS ahead of that laughable raiders/chargers carson project which would not be ready at the earliest until a year later and the NFL is not going to change their minds to accompany the chargers and raiders pathetic carson project.Lets not forger that carson is on a toxic landfill which is why nobody has ever built anything there on that land.:biggrin:

thats why I keep saying the chargers and raiders,they ARE using LA for leverage.:biggrin:

Like I said before the ONLY reason Kroneke did not make the move this year like he easily could have,is he is allowing Spanos to use LA as leverage for a new stadium in san diego.If Kroneke makes the move this year,then Spanos loses his leverage for a new stadium.

I am thinking the chargers might be joining the Rams in Inglewood a couple years after Kroneke moves them next year since that is what many sportswriters think as well.
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just to clear things up here i made one mistake in my numbers there.I was listening to an interview with Inglewood mayor James Butts "whom I have personally meant face to face by the way and got to talk to and who has had meetings with Kroneke as well."

In listening to an interview on sports radio he gave yesterday,he set me straight that it is actually 2020 the year the NFL plans to host a superbowl and they want an NFL stadium built there by 2018 to do so.

again that will be impossible for the carson project to go ahead because that stadium will NEVER be ready by then.Inglewood is light years ahead of carson and will be ready.Oh and mayor butts as well said yesterday what i just mentioned that this sunday they are going to demo hollywood park.

2016 LA RAMS will be playing in either the rose bowl or the LA coliseum baby.:banana:

crossing my fingers that it is the LA coliseum since that is where most of their history in LA is.
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Only good I can see if they do move is that they will be a west coast team and located in the geographical area of the NFC West. Great for my team as they won't have to travel so far to play them nor have an early game with someone from their own division
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You know when you bring that up I think that is WHY The NFL never realined the Rams into the central division when they moved to st louis and why the NFL until now was never serious about bringing a team back to LA is because they knew back then that the 20 year lease on the dome they signed back then expired after this season and if the team was not in the top third tier of all NFL stadiums "which they are not." that it stipulated they could relocate and they knew they could come back.

Think about it for a minute.If the Rams were going to stay in st louis past 20 years,then WHY did they not realine them in the central division with the packers,bears,lions,and vikings where they are more geographically closer? Look at baseball.the cardinals are in the same division with the cubs,pirates,and brewers.teams that are either in the midwest or on the east coast which makes sense.

It also benefits the NFL having the Rams back in LA because were talking the second biggest media market in the country here.That is why the NFL opposed the move initially.

the other way the NFL benefits from the Rams coming back to LA is the rivalry with the 49ers is renewed.That rivalry has been dead the past 20 years since they been gone.

Not only that,but the rivalry the Rams had with the dallas cowboys and minnestoa vikings has long been dead since then as well. when they come back,the rivalry is restored ESPECIALLY with the 49ers no matter how bad both teams are playing at the time fans from both cities will be eager to see those teams play again. the rivalry with the san francisco 49ers and LOS ANGELES RAMS,that rivalry is as old as any like the new york yankees and and boston red sox.

With the Rams coming back to LA,they will be a much better team because free agents will want to come and play there in LA.Nobody wants to sign with st louis as a free agent and play in that dump down there.

Remember the NFL owners did not want the Rams to leave in the first place.They originally voted against the move and then when the ***** threatened to sue them,they then backed down and voted approval of the move reluctantly.

I guarantee you the owners of the niners,seahawks,and cardinals will be voting for the move later this year.
 
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