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[TheGreatGatsby]

Pats won again. Close one today 17-16.

Someone will take them out in the playoffs....

Big win for the Chargers 38-35 over the Niners!

 

[High_Gravity]

Rondo is gone. That sucks. I would have liked to see him be a Celtic for life and become an even bigger part of their folklore. On top of that, the C's are just unwatchable now. Mavs will be dangerous now. But I don't know how good Monta Ellis can be without the ball.

Sources Celtics deal Rajon Rondo to Mavs - Yahoo Sports

The worst part is Ainge basically gave Rondo away like a Christmas present, this has set Boston back 10 years. All that championship experience and veteran leadership is gone now, we basically just have a team of rookies and young players with a second year coach and no all stars in sight. Rondo actually wanted to stay in Boston, its not often that we get a star player that wants to stay but everytime we do Ainge trades them or doesn't give them an extension. The way this was handled was just hideous, we are now the new 76ers of the NBA and we will not be relevant again until 10 years. I hope Ainge is happy.

Ainge's bosses are cheap. They didn't want to pay Rondo.

They didn't want to pay Perkins or Tony Allen either, you can't win on the cheap though. Every team that wins a championship is paying someone, you will not find a team that wins championships on the cheap at bargain rates. I guess thats what Ainge doesn't understand.

The C's could have three-peated had KG not injured his knee. Perk and Allen could have been the difference in 11 or 12. I think they gave up on that team too early.

Boston would have won in 2012 if the company men didn't help Lebron get his first ring. Lebron was up against the wall and HAD to win that year, losing to Boston for a third time would have tarnished his legacu.

 

[High_Gravity]

I think the Celtics will do okay, they are rebuilding and have a lot of missing pieces, they are getting draft choices for the future. I think the Celtics have more of an upside in the next couple years than the Lakers, they have Kobe and no future until his contract is gone.

Boston has alot of picks yes but the players getting drafted these days take years to develop, Wiggins is only averaging 12 PPG and looks like he will need at least 2 years to develop. Anthony Davis is just finally breaking out this season and he was drafted in 2012. Anthony Bennett was drafted Number 1 last year and he is total garbage, worst number 1 pick in history. Damian Lillard came in playing like an all star right away but that is extremely rare. There are no Shaquille O'Neals or Tim Duncans out there waiting for us to draft them. Not to mention the Celtics luck in the lottery has been extremely poor, wanting to rebuild around the draft is very risky and I hope Danny Ainge knows what hes doing. With Rajon Rondo we had a legit all star point guard with championship experience who has put foot to ass in the playoffs and genuinely loved the Celtics and Boston and wanted to stay, I don't know why you would trade someone like that. At least with Rondo you had a star to build around, this rebuilding is going to take 10 years now or maybe more.

Draft picks are important. The C's got Rondo with the 23rd pick or something. So, they can pay off. But they'll need one of these high lottery picks to be a jackpot. They need another Paul Pierce cornerstone type of player. It looks like that won't be Marcus Smart.

Smart will need at least 2 years to develop, thats nothing bad against him even Anthony Davis needed 2-3 years to become a star. I'm thinking we can steal Noel Nerlens from Philly for Jeff Green, what do you think? I think Noel can have a upside. Plus, Noel is from Boston.

Smart's ceiling is a Kyle Lowry; and by the time he even hits that, he's probably out of Boston. I'm not that excited about him as of yet.

Philly's strategy is to stash and suck for higher picks. Nerlens for Green doesn't do that for them. Plus, they're probably higher on Nerlens than Green in the second place.

I think your right about Smart, Lowery is probably what his ceiling is and at that, it will take YEARS to get there. Thats why I think this rebuilding will take 10 years. I was hoping Philly might not care for Noel as much, since they have Joel Embid waiting to come back and probably another high pick this year, I'd try to go for the steal. Philly seems like a desperate organization and could use the scoring Jeff Green provides.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I was hoping Philly might not care for Noel as much, since they have Joel Embid waiting to come back and probably another high pick this year, I'd try to go for the steal. Philly seems like a desperate organization and could use the scoring Jeff Green provides.

No. Philly is far from desperate. They've very intentionally been drafting high potential long term projects that can't produce right away. The fact that Embid was going to miss this year only made him more attractive to Philly. It's a good strategy. They get guys who will bloom eventually and get to recoup more high draft picks in the meantime; and they do it all at low cost.

On a side note, Embid refused to do workouts with certain teams and had the alleged needed season ending surgery as part of a deterrent for teams to pass on him and for him to fall to the Lakers. But this time, the b's couldn't cheat their way to another 'superstar.'

 

[ChrisL]

Pats won again. Close one today 17-16.

Someone will take them out in the playoffs....

Big win for the Chargers 38-35 over the Niners!

NO way! The Pats are going to kick butts!!

Merry Christmas!

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

 

[High_Gravity]

I was hoping Philly might not care for Noel as much, since they have Joel Embid waiting to come back and probably another high pick this year, I'd try to go for the steal. Philly seems like a desperate organization and could use the scoring Jeff Green provides.

No. Philly is far from desperate. They've very intentionally been drafting high potential long term projects that can't produce right away. The fact that Embid was going to miss this year only made him more attractive to Philly. It's a good strategy. They get guys who will bloom eventually and get to recoup more high draft picks in the meantime; and they do it all at low cost.

On a side note, Embid refused to do workouts with certain teams and had the alleged needed season ending surgery as part of a deterrent for teams to pass on him and for him to fall to the Lakers. But this time, the b's couldn't cheat their way to another 'superstar.'

Interesting, lets see if it works out. The last team to build from the draft and actually win championships was the Spurs. Usually these young guys are always hurt or take years to develop, the only player recently to come in and play like a star right away was Damian Lillard.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I was hoping Philly might not care for Noel as much, since they have Joel Embid waiting to come back and probably another high pick this year, I'd try to go for the steal. Philly seems like a desperate organization and could use the scoring Jeff Green provides.

No. Philly is far from desperate. They've very intentionally been drafting high potential long term projects that can't produce right away. The fact that Embid was going to miss this year only made him more attractive to Philly. It's a good strategy. They get guys who will bloom eventually and get to recoup more high draft picks in the meantime; and they do it all at low cost.

On a side note, Embid refused to do workouts with certain teams and had the alleged needed season ending surgery as part of a deterrent for teams to pass on him and for him to fall to the Lakers. But this time, the b's couldn't cheat their way to another 'superstar.'

Interesting, lets see if it works out. The last team to build from the draft and actually win championships was the Spurs. Usually these young guys are always hurt or take years to develop, the only player recently to come in and play like a star right away was Damian Lillard.

I haven't seen enough of Nerlens to say for sure; but he seems like fool's gold. He is very athletic. But his basketball IQ is not high, and his skills are sub par. I'd trade him while his stock is high. I don't think Philly will though; cos they're fools. Embid is alleged to be a next Olajuwon. I doubt that. But could he be an 18-10-3(Blk) guy? It looks promising. I think Philly will need two or three more good drafts and the right guy(s) to come via free agency. It's way too early to tell any of that. They're in the weak east though; so the bar is pretty low.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

 

[Immanuel]

So, why was Ndamukong Suh suspended for next week's game? Oh wait, next in line for the Lions are league darlings, The Dallas Cowboys. That is all one needs to know in order to answer that question. Suh should be fined, but that ass, Goodell, wants to make sure Suh is no threat to his favorites.

Improve the league, fire Goodell.
Save the league, fire Goodell!

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

So, why was Ndamukong Suh suspended for next week's game? Oh wait, next in line for the Lions are league darlings, The Dallas Cowboys. That is all one needs to know in order to answer that question. Suh should be fined, but that ass, Goodell, wants to make sure Suh is no threat to his favorites.

Improve the league, fire Goodell.
Save the league, fire Goodell!

Ndamukong Suh of Detroit Lions wins appeal will play in playoff game vs. Dallas Cowboys - ESPN

Suspension overturned.

You're probably right. But Suh deserved it. He's been given more than enough chances.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I was hoping Philly might not care for Noel as much, since they have Joel Embid waiting to come back and probably another high pick this year, I'd try to go for the steal. Philly seems like a desperate organization and could use the scoring Jeff Green provides.

No. Philly is far from desperate. They've very intentionally been drafting high potential long term projects that can't produce right away. The fact that Embid was going to miss this year only made him more attractive to Philly. It's a good strategy. They get guys who will bloom eventually and get to recoup more high draft picks in the meantime; and they do it all at low cost.

On a side note, Embid refused to do workouts with certain teams and had the alleged needed season ending surgery as part of a deterrent for teams to pass on him and for him to fall to the Lakers. But this time, the b's couldn't cheat their way to another 'superstar.'

Interesting, lets see if it works out. The last team to build from the draft and actually win championships was the Spurs. Usually these young guys are always hurt or take years to develop, the only player recently to come in and play like a star right away was Damian Lillard.

Building is the right strategy for any organization that has their shiz together....Most don't. NBA execs are mostly retards.

 

[Papageorgio]

So, why was Ndamukong Suh suspended for next week's game? Oh wait, next in line for the Lions are league darlings, The Dallas Cowboys. That is all one needs to know in order to answer that question. Suh should be fined, but that ass, Goodell, wants to make sure Suh is no threat to his favorites.

Improve the league, fire Goodell.
Save the league, fire Goodell!

WTF? I despise Dallas, but Suh needs to be held accountable for his actions, he has done this in the past and unless he is held responsible, he will continue to try to ruin other players careers.

Now his suspension is currently overturned, so your screwed up rant is complete bull but Suh should not be allowed to act unprofessionally.

 

[Papageorgio]

I was hoping Philly might not care for Noel as much, since they have Joel Embid waiting to come back and probably another high pick this year, I'd try to go for the steal. Philly seems like a desperate organization and could use the scoring Jeff Green provides.

No. Philly is far from desperate. They've very intentionally been drafting high potential long term projects that can't produce right away. The fact that Embid was going to miss this year only made him more attractive to Philly. It's a good strategy. They get guys who will bloom eventually and get to recoup more high draft picks in the meantime; and they do it all at low cost.

On a side note, Embid refused to do workouts with certain teams and had the alleged needed season ending surgery as part of a deterrent for teams to pass on him and for him to fall to the Lakers. But this time, the b's couldn't cheat their way to another 'superstar.'

Interesting, lets see if it works out. The last team to build from the draft and actually win championships was the Spurs. Usually these young guys are always hurt or take years to develop, the only player recently to come in and play like a star right away was Damian Lillard.

Lillard continues to amaze me, the guy has ice in his veins and is closing in on the top point guards in the league. He has helped the Blazers to be contenders.

 

[Immanuel]

So, why was Ndamukong Suh suspended for next week's game? Oh wait, next in line for the Lions are league darlings, The Dallas Cowboys. That is all one needs to know in order to answer that question. Suh should be fined, but that ass, Goodell, wants to make sure Suh is no threat to his favorites.

Improve the league, fire Goodell.
Save the league, fire Goodell!

WTF? I despise Dallas, but Suh needs to be held accountable for his actions, he has done this in the past and unless he is held responsible, he will continue to try to ruin other players careers.

Now his suspension is currently overturned, so your screwed up rant is complete bull but Suh should not be allowed to act unprofessionally.

Just because his suspension was overturned does not mean that the original accusation that the suspension was handed down because the league favors Dallas is incorrect. He was fined as he should have been. However, what he did, was not all that bad and he did not cause any injury. That jackass Goodell is a POS who has tried to turn players into pussies (sorry ladies for the offensive language). I'm surprised their not wearing ballet slippers and tutus these days.

Suh is a prick and deserves to get the shit kicked out of him, but suspending him when it clearly gives a team that was not even involved in the incident a tremendous advantage in the playoffs is not the right way to go about it.

Dallas has long been favored by the league and Goodell. Goodell should have been fired years ago. He, all by himself, has done a major disservice to the league throughout his tenure. Getting rid of him before players are wearing tutus is the only way to save the league.

 

[Papageorgio]

Not all that bad? Didn't Rogers leave the game?

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Lillard continues to amaze me, the guy has ice in his veins and is closing in on the top point guards in the league. He has helped the Blazers to be contenders.

They beat the Spurs in 30T. But Kawaii Leonard was out of the line-up. He can contain him, even stifle him. And Green, Mills and Joseph are good enough to give him blows.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Joey Crawford reffed his first Spurs game in a while. I think he's only done two or three so far this season... He refused to video review whether Nene whacking Ginobili across the face should be considered flagrant.

 

[High_Gravity]

Joey Crawford reffed his first Spurs game in a while. I think he's only done two or three so far this season... He refused to video review whether Nene whacking Ginobili across the face should be considered flagrant.

Ha! Joey Crawford despises the Spurs, he will keep screwing them over until he retires.

 

[Jackson]

Came in for lunch, but not much happening here. Thought I might get some thoughts on the College National Championship game coming up next week. Looks like the pundits are going for OSU, so the Ducks might take it. I'm from Ohio so I am hoping for an OSU win. It's going to be tight.