USA Today: No Blacks or Females in Dunkirk Movie

[Tilly]

Sidebar.

Can anyone name the Oscar winning Best Picture winner that had no female speaking roles?

Lawrence of Arabia. A really, really long movie. I saw it when it came out and I was in high school. I didn't notice that there were no women in a speaking role until many decades later.

I love that movie, and I hadn't noticed either.

 

[Weatherman2020]

It was a retreat......the socialists drove them out of France....I know a lot of movies have covered the other battles of WW2...but how is a moment where Britain and the French got their asses handed to them a good movie experience?

It was a remarkable battle, a heroic battle.

The Nazi's had cut off, trapped hundreds of thousands of mostly British troops. America had not yet entered the war. Had Hitler been successful, Britain would have been severely crippled.

Adolph Hitler had expected to capture and/or kill most all of them. Churchill made a plea to the public to join the military in rescuing soldiers from the beach. Hundreds of privately owned boats of all sizes joined in the rescue effort. Tugboats, sailboats, fishing boats any and everything that floated. From May 27, 1940, through June 4th, over 330,000 British troops were rescued, over 240 ships and boats were sunk.

It was a huge moral and strategic victory for the Allies.

I am talking about the movie of it......it was a retreat......movies about losing aren't as interesting as those where you win, especially when you win against over whelming odds...

Pearl Harbor, Bridge on River Kwai, Bridge Too Far, No Man is an Island are a few historical movies justified to be a movie. All bad news for the good guys but great stories.

 

[Sunni Man]

I don't recall them having any dialogue they just showed the officer the paperwork.

A woman is shown speaking, but behind a closed door where you can't hear her. ....

 

[blackhawk]

Sidebar.

Can anyone name the Oscar winning Best Picture winner that had no female speaking roles?

It didn't win best picture but I don't recall any female speaking roles in Saving Private Ryan.

Sidebar just learned while home shopping. Private Ryan is based on a story of 4 brothers from Bedford VA. 3 brothers died in the opening days of Normandy. 39 men from Bedford were there on D Day. 19 died the first day. Largest per capita loss in the US. Very nice DDay memorial there now.
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Interesting I figured the story idea came from the Sullivan Brothers the five brothers serving on the USS Juneau who died when she was sunk in 1942.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Several movies would have been great except they inserted women into the story.
Pearl Harbor
Top Gun
Major League

 

[blackhawk]

I don't recall them having any dialogue they just showed the officer the paperwork.

A woman is shown speaking, but behind a closed door where you can't hear her. ....

I guess technically that counts as a speaking role even though it's a bit iffy to me but nothing to worked up over.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Sidebar.

Can anyone name the Oscar winning Best Picture winner that had no female speaking roles?

It didn't win best picture but I don't recall any female speaking roles in Saving Private Ryan.

Sidebar just learned while home shopping. Private Ryan is based on a story of 4 brothers from Bedford VA. 3 brothers died in the opening days of Normandy. 39 men from Bedford were there on D Day. 19 died the first day. Largest per capita loss in the US. Very nice DDay memorial there now.
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Interesting I figured the story idea came from the Sullivan Brothers the five brothers serving on the USS Juneau who died when she was sunk in 1942.

I'm sure there were a lot of similar stories. Speilburg helped pay for the memorial in Bedford which was a nice offer. I think that movie changed him and Hanks. I know Forest Gump changed Gary Sinise.

 

[Theowl32]

lol!

 

[blackhawk]

Sidebar.

Can anyone name the Oscar winning Best Picture winner that had no female speaking roles?

It didn't win best picture but I don't recall any female speaking roles in Saving Private Ryan.

Sidebar just learned while home shopping. Private Ryan is based on a story of 4 brothers from Bedford VA. 3 brothers died in the opening days of Normandy. 39 men from Bedford were there on D Day. 19 died the first day. Largest per capita loss in the US. Very nice DDay memorial there now.
View attachment 139738

Interesting I figured the story idea came from the Sullivan Brothers the five brothers serving on the USS Juneau who died when she was sunk in 1942.

I'm sure there were a lot of similar stories. Speilburg helped pay for the memorial in Bedford which was a nice offer. I think that movie changed him and Hanks. I know Forest Gump changed Gary Sinise.

My sidebar after the Juneau the navy made it a point no longer let siblings serve on the same ship.

 

[peach174]

Sidebar.

Can anyone name the Oscar winning Best Picture winner that had no female speaking roles?

It didn't win best picture but I don't recall any female speaking roles in Saving Private Ryan.

Sidebar just learned while home shopping. Private Ryan is based on a story of 4 brothers from Bedford VA. 3 brothers died in the opening days of Normandy. 39 men from Bedford were there on D Day. 19 died the first day. Largest per capita loss in the US. Very nice DDay memorial there now.
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Interesting I figured the story idea came from the Sullivan Brothers the five brothers serving on the USS Juneau who died when she was sunk in 1942.

Me and my husband thought that at first also.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Sidebar.

Can anyone name the Oscar winning Best Picture winner that had no female speaking roles?

It didn't win best picture but I don't recall any female speaking roles in Saving Private Ryan.

Sidebar just learned while home shopping. Private Ryan is based on a story of 4 brothers from Bedford VA. 3 brothers died in the opening days of Normandy. 39 men from Bedford were there on D Day. 19 died the first day. Largest per capita loss in the US. Very nice DDay memorial there now.
View attachment 139738

Interesting I figured the story idea came from the Sullivan Brothers the five brothers serving on the USS Juneau who died when she was sunk in 1942.

I'm sure there were a lot of similar stories. Speilburg helped pay for the memorial in Bedford which was a nice offer. I think that movie changed him and Hanks. I know Forest Gump changed Gary Sinise.

My sidebar after the Juneau the navy made it a point no longer let siblings serve on the same ship.

Which should have been learned 12/7/41.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Sidebar.

Can anyone name the Oscar winning Best Picture winner that had no female speaking roles?

It didn't win best picture but I don't recall any female speaking roles in Saving Private Ryan.

Sidebar just learned while home shopping. Private Ryan is based on a story of 4 brothers from Bedford VA. 3 brothers died in the opening days of Normandy. 39 men from Bedford were there on D Day. 19 died the first day. Largest per capita loss in the US. Very nice DDay memorial there now.
View attachment 139738

Interesting I figured the story idea came from the Sullivan Brothers the five brothers serving on the USS Juneau who died when she was sunk in 1942.

Me and my husband thought that also.

A book was written on them which Speilberg picked up and inspired the movie.

 

[peach174]

MELTING SNOWFLAKE ALERT!

USA Today: People Might Be Upset More Women And Black People Didn't Fight In WWII

I don't know that much about the history of Dunkirk and have yet to see the movie. Not sure where the black criticism comes in, but even if it was mostly a battle involving white men, they could have thrown in some worried mothers, nurses, etc. I guess. I normally get excited for new war movies, but the trailers I have seen for this one just are not connecting with me.

So you too believe we should rewrite history so as to be Politically Correct. None of the participants had any sort of a black population.

Here, educate yourself. I didn't realize that WW-II and the great battles were so foreign to people today.

Dunkirk evacuation - Wikipedia

I have no excitement for realistic war movies. They give me nightmares.

'Dunkirk' is a spectacular World War II epic (review)

My husband and I also agree ,that too many hollywood films like rewriting history.
We like our history not revisionist history.
I hear many complaining about P C seems most in the country are also.
We're going to see the movie.
It's rare to see a good real historical battle film and were looking forward to it.
I hope it makes top box office charts.

 

[Weatherman2020]

MELTING SNOWFLAKE ALERT!

USA Today: People Might Be Upset More Women And Black People Didn't Fight In WWII

I don't know that much about the history of Dunkirk and have yet to see the movie. Not sure where the black criticism comes in, but even if it was mostly a battle involving white men, they could have thrown in some worried mothers, nurses, etc. I guess. I normally get excited for new war movies, but the trailers I have seen for this one just are not connecting with me.

So you too believe we should rewrite history so as to be Politically Correct. None of the participants had any sort of a black population.

Here, educate yourself. I didn't realize that WW-II and the great battles were so foreign to people today.

Dunkirk evacuation - Wikipedia

I have no excitement for realistic war movies. They give me nightmares.

'Dunkirk' is a spectacular World War II epic (review)

My husband and I also agree ,that too many hollywood films like rewriting history.
We like our history not revisionist history.
I hear many complaining about P C seems most in the country are also.
We're going to see the movie.
It's rare to see a good real historical battle film and were looking forward to it.
I hope it makes top box office charts.

The worst ever was the Enigma Machine. About the only thing factual and relivent was the guys name.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Several movies would have been great except they inserted women into the story.
Pearl Harbor
Top Gun
Major League

Top Gun was a great movie? Really? I suggest you talk to anyone who has ever served in a Naval squadron, just go up to them and tell them how great you think that movie is. They will correct your thinking about it. Anyone else notice that when they were supposed to be flying against the Russians out in the middle of the Indian Ocean, there were MOUNTAINS in the background? And never mind the gross errors in protocol and how things are actually done. I served with VFA-131 Wildcats (FA18 outfit), for 4 years during my career.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Several movies would have been great except they inserted women into the story.
Pearl Harbor
Top Gun
Major League

Top Gun was a great movie? Really? I suggest you talk to anyone who has ever served in a Naval squadron, just go up to them and tell them how great you think that movie is. They will correct your thinking about it. Anyone else notice that when they were supposed to be flying against the Russians out in the middle of the Indian Ocean, there were MOUNTAINS in the background? And never mind the gross errors in protocol and how things are actually done. I served with VFA-131 Wildcats (FA18 outfit), for 4 years during my career.

No abla englese? How did would have been great go to being great?

 

[peach174]

Several movies would have been great except they inserted women into the story.
Pearl Harbor
Top Gun
Major League

Top Gun was a great movie? Really? I suggest you talk to anyone who has ever served in a Naval squadron, just go up to them and tell them how great you think that movie is. They will correct your thinking about it. Anyone else notice that when they were supposed to be flying against the Russians out in the middle of the Indian Ocean, there were MOUNTAINS in the background? And never mind the gross errors in protocol and how things are actually done. I served with VFA-131 Wildcats (FA18 outfit), for 4 years during my career.

No abla englese? How did would have been great go to being great?

Are you having some sort of nervous breakdown or just drunk?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Several movies would have been great except they inserted women into the story.
Pearl Harbor
Top Gun
Major League

Top Gun was a great movie? Really? I suggest you talk to anyone who has ever served in a Naval squadron, just go up to them and tell them how great you think that movie is. They will correct your thinking about it. Anyone else notice that when they were supposed to be flying against the Russians out in the middle of the Indian Ocean, there were MOUNTAINS in the background? And never mind the gross errors in protocol and how things are actually done. I served with VFA-131 Wildcats (FA18 outfit), for 4 years during my career.

No abla englese? How did would have been great go to being great?

Even if you would have cut out the love story part of the movie (which is what you said would make it great), Top Gun would still suck ass because of all the errors in the movie.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Several movies would have been great except they inserted women into the story.
Pearl Harbor
Top Gun
Major League

Top Gun was a great movie? Really? I suggest you talk to anyone who has ever served in a Naval squadron, just go up to them and tell them how great you think that movie is. They will correct your thinking about it. Anyone else notice that when they were supposed to be flying against the Russians out in the middle of the Indian Ocean, there were MOUNTAINS in the background? And never mind the gross errors in protocol and how things are actually done. I served with VFA-131 Wildcats (FA18 outfit), for 4 years during my career.

No abla englese? How did would have been great go to being great?

Are you having some sort of nervous breakdown or just drunk?

¿Sólo porque él tiene un pelo salvaje en el culo porque no puede leer?

 

[fncceo]

Update again ... I wrote a very comprehensive review of this movie and, for some stupid reason, my post just disappeared. So, bottom line, I DO NOT recommend this movie. It is terrible.

For the record, there are very few movies I don't enjoy at least to some degree.

What didn't you like? Movies that rely too heavily on computer imagery tend to be a turn-off for me. I get the impression from the trailers that this one might do that.

Warning: Spoilers

Actually, this movie did just the opposite. It attempted to depict 350,000 British soldiers and 800 ships with what looked to be about 1,000 extras and a couple of dozen boats. This is a situation where CGI actually would have enhanced the movie.

But, my main complaint is how genuinely uninspiring this movie really is. British soldiers are depicted as dispirited and cowardly. Young soldiers pretending to be medics to sneak aboard hospital ships. A shell-shocked British officer kills a young boy in a panic over returning to Dunkirk after being rescued at sea by civilians. They show British soldiers turning on each other for the last spot in a sinking ship. You never once see the face of the German enemy, but you see British soldiers being bombed, drowned and burned alive. None of them died bravely. The French are depicted as conducting the rear guard action on their own while British soldiers mill about the beach crying to be rescued when in fact several thousand British held back the Germans in order for 320,000 of their fellow soldiers to be rescued.

The sound track was a continuous staccato buzz that I assume was meant to inspire tension but after the first hour just became annoying.