US Soldiers NOT Allowed To Defend US Borders From Foreign Enemies

[jc456]

Not their job to round up women and children and nonviolent immigrants

Oaths of Enlistment and Oaths of Office - U.S. Army Center of Military History


"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Posse Comitatus Act
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Posse Comitatus Act
The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States. It was passed as an amendment to an army appropriation bill following the end of Reconstruction and was updated in 1956 and 1981.

The act specifically applies only to the United States Army and, as amended in 1956, the United States Air Force. Although the act does not explicitly mention the United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps, the Department of the Navy has prescribed regulations that are generally construed to give the act force with respect to those services as well. The act does not prevent the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor. The United States Coast Guard, which operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act either, primarily because although the Coast Guard is an armed service, it also has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.

The title of the act comes from the legal concept of posse comitatus, the authority under which a county sheriff, or other law officer, conscripts any able-bodied person to assist in keeping the peace.

So you all think our military can’t protect our own land?

They can only stop enemy soldiers trying to take over the country.

every foreigner that enters illegally enters as an enemy. don't need to be a soldier.

 

[busybee01]

No, they can't shoot unarmed civilians. So sorry about that.

No but they absolutely ought to be wiping out foreign troops who point weapons at them inside our border.

They should also be using some of the less lethal means of crowd control to dissipate hordes of illegals trying to breech barriers.

foreign troops who point weapons at them inside our border.
What are you talking about, Pete?

what is it you don't understand?

What foreign troops, as in members of an army, inside our border pointing weapons?

Pointing weapons? Thanks to the Obama administration that authorized the shipment of over 3,000 illegal weapons to Mexican criminals there is no shortage of weapons. At least one border patrol officer was murdered with one of the weapons and who knows how many are seized by border officers. The MSM won't tell us and democrats continue to claim that there is no problem.

A similar operation was run from the same office under George W Bush.

 

[jc456]

There is no invasion. The fact is the whole incident was handled with no violence.

"was" handled ? You think the illegal immigration invasion is over ?

Thousands of people coming across our border with no authorization, and you call this not an invasion ?

Invasion - b) an intrusion or infringement (Webster's New World college Dictionary, 5th ed)

Here is another definition.

an instance of invading a country or region with an armed force.

That is the military's job. Stopping unarmed women and children is not.

nope, link

 

[busybee01]

Not their job to round up women and children and nonviolent immigrants

Oaths of Enlistment and Oaths of Office - U.S. Army Center of Military History


"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Posse Comitatus Act
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to navigation Jump to search

Posse Comitatus Act
The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States. It was passed as an amendment to an army appropriation bill following the end of Reconstruction and was updated in 1956 and 1981.

The act specifically applies only to the United States Army and, as amended in 1956, the United States Air Force. Although the act does not explicitly mention the United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps, the Department of the Navy has prescribed regulations that are generally construed to give the act force with respect to those services as well. The act does not prevent the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor. The United States Coast Guard, which operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act either, primarily because although the Coast Guard is an armed service, it also has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.

The title of the act comes from the legal concept of posse comitatus, the authority under which a county sheriff, or other law officer, conscripts any able-bodied person to assist in keeping the peace.

So you all think our military can’t protect our own land?

They can only stop enemy soldiers trying to take over the country.

every foreigner that enters illegal enters as an enemy. don't need to be a soldier.

Soldiers cannot enforce civil laws. End of discussion.

 

[jc456]

It’s our country yes?

Another crazy idiot.

Yes you are

You sure are.

I know I am correct you're a crazy idiot.

You know nothing as you are the crazy idiot. Your defense of Trump proves that.

your DTS is well documented in here. why would I expect you to stop now. hahahahhahaa crazy idiot you are.

 

[jc456]

Oaths of Enlistment and Oaths of Office - U.S. Army Center of Military History


"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Posse Comitatus Act
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to navigation Jump to search

Posse Comitatus Act
The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States. It was passed as an amendment to an army appropriation bill following the end of Reconstruction and was updated in 1956 and 1981.

The act specifically applies only to the United States Army and, as amended in 1956, the United States Air Force. Although the act does not explicitly mention the United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps, the Department of the Navy has prescribed regulations that are generally construed to give the act force with respect to those services as well. The act does not prevent the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor. The United States Coast Guard, which operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act either, primarily because although the Coast Guard is an armed service, it also has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.

The title of the act comes from the legal concept of posse comitatus, the authority under which a county sheriff, or other law officer, conscripts any able-bodied person to assist in keeping the peace.

So you all think our military can’t protect our own land?

They can only stop enemy soldiers trying to take over the country.

every foreigner that enters illegal enters as an enemy. don't need to be a soldier.

Soldiers cannot enforce civil laws. End of discussion.

illegal entry to my country is an act of war, military can be used.

 

[danielpalos]

lol. only the ignorant right wing appeals to Ignorance of our supreme Law of the land, but expect to be taken more seriously than Any hypocrite.

You are the one who is IGNORING our ordinary laws, in this case immigration law, as if it didn't even exist.

appeals to ignorance is all you have. why should anyone take you seriously in Any serious venue?

 

[danielpalos]

Show us the Express immigration clause right wingers, don't twist it with your implications. Only hypocrites do that and blame others.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens

There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution. We have an express Establishment clause for Naturalization, every time the right wing has nothing but bigotry and ignorance.

 

[danielpalos]

Show us the Express immigration clause right wingers, don't twist it with your implications. Only hypocrites do that and blame others.

Show us where the United States does NOT have the right to protect is national sovereignty / defend its borders from invasion.

Show us where Democrats can commit crimes - violate existing US Immigration and other Federal Laws - to promote, facilitate, and expand / increase illegal immigration.

Justify how the House of Representatives, who control govt sending, can falsely declare 'There is no crisis at the border - it is a manufactured one by this President', use that lie to REFUSE TO FUND the federal agencies having to address this overwhelming crisis without the necessary funding and resources to do so, and then blame the GOP and President for the horrific conditions that exist at the border due to THEIR refusal to act / address the crisis!

our supreme law of the land provides a solution, not any form of excuse.

 

[easyt65]

Here is another definition.

an instance of invading a country or region with an armed force.

That is the military's job. Stopping unarmed women and children is not.

1. Thank you for admitting that the Mexican Military crossing into the United States, ordering US military members on US soil to surrender, and taking their weapons is, according to your definition, an invasion, a military incursion, and it is well within the duty, responsibility, and mission of the US Military to defend themselves and this nation.

2. Official reports have described heavily armored / armed Mexican Drug Cartels / Smugglers escorting illegals across our border and into the United States. There are also past reports of members of Mexico's own military escorting Mexican Drug Cartels and drug shipments into the US, on US soil. By your own definition it was well within the duty, responsibility, and mission of the United States Military to engage and militarily defend the United States.

3. You / your definition does NOT address 'irregular warfare' and / or terrorist / non-official foreign military invasions / incursions / operations into the United States. Official US Govt Intel sources HAVE reported that terrorists / individuals associated with terrorist organizations HAVE infiltrated / invaded this country.

Both US Intel and Law Enforcement entities have officially reported that MS13 - an recognized internationally recognized violent crime organization - has invaded this country through our unsecured border and that they have perpetrated violent, heinous crimes against US citizens, to including HACKING CHILDREN / ADULTS TO PIECES and in one case SETTING A YOUNG GIRL ON FIRE AFTER SEVERAL MS13 MEMBERS GANG RAPED HER.

If you do think Mexican Drug Cartels, Human / Sex Traffickers MS13, and individuals associated with known terrorist groups entering the US is NOT an 'invasion' / is not part of an 'ATTACK' on the United States and its citizens then YOU'RE A FRIGGIN' IDIOT!

 

[easyt65]

There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution. We have an express Establishment clause for Naturalization, every time the right wing has nothing but bigotry and ignorance.

Good boy. You have proven you have your Leftist Pro-Open Borders, Pro-Illegal Immigration Talking Points memorized. Polly want a cracker?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Here is another definition.

an instance of invading a country or region with an armed force.

That is the military's job. Stopping unarmed women and children is not.

1. Thank you for admitting that the Mexican Military crossing into the United States, ordering US military members on US soil to surrender, and taking their weapons is, according to your definition, an invasion, a military incursion, and it is well within the duty, responsibility, and mission of the US Military to defend themselves and this nation.

2. Official reports have described heavily armored / armed Mexican Drug Cartels / Smugglers escorting illegals across our border and into the United States. There are also past reports of members of Mexico's own military escorting Mexican Drug Cartels and drug shipments into the US, on US soil. By your own definition it was well within the duty, responsibility, and mission of the United States Military to engage and militarily defend the United States.

3. You / your definition does NOT address 'irregular warfare' and / or terrorist / non-official foreign military invasions / incursions / operations into the United States. Official US Govt Intel sources HAVE reported that terrorists / individuals associated with terrorist organizations HAVE infiltrated / invaded this country.

Both US Intel and Law Enforcement entities have officially reported that MS13 - an recognized internationally recognized violent crime organization - has invaded this country through our unsecured border and that they have perpetrated violent, heinous crimes against US citizens, to including HACKING CHILDREN / ADULTS TO PIECES and in one case SETTING A YOUNG GIRL ON FIRE AFTER SEVERAL MS13 MEMBERS GANG RAPED HER.

If you do think Mexican Drug Cartels, Human / Sex Traffickers MS13, and individuals associated with known terrorist groups entering the US is NOT an 'invasion' / is not part of an 'ATTACK' on the United States and its citizens then YOU'RE A FRIGGIN' IDIOT!

This is exactly what democrats want. Those candidates who spoke in Spanish have nothing to say to English speaking Americans. They have a lot to say to the foot soldiers of gangs who are actively killing Americans

 

[easyt65]

With that logic we should be having the military stop the migration of the Monarch butterfly

You are seriously attempting to compare 100,000 illegals criminally violating US law and illegally crossing into the US PER MONTH, heavily-armored Mexican Drug Cartel members, human/sex-traffickers, violent MS13 members, the Mexican Military, pedophiles, rapists, cop-killers, etc..... to MONARCH BUTTERFLIES?!

 

[Moonglow]

With that logic we should be having the military stop the migration of the Monarch butterfly

You are seriously attempting to compare 100,000 illegals criminally violating US law and illegally crossing into the US PER MONTH, heavily-armored Mexican Drug Cartel members, human/sex-traffickers, violent MS13 members, the Mexican Military, pedophiles, rapists, cop-killers, etc..... to MONARCH BUTTERFLIES?!

They both carry the same amount of military hardware..

 

[Moonglow]

Here is another definition.

an instance of invading a country or region with an armed force.

That is the military's job. Stopping unarmed women and children is not.

1. Thank you for admitting that the Mexican Military crossing into the United States, ordering US military members on US soil to surrender, and taking their weapons is, according to your definition, an invasion, a military incursion, and it is well within the duty, responsibility, and mission of the US Military to defend themselves and this nation.

2. Official reports have described heavily armored / armed Mexican Drug Cartels / Smugglers escorting illegals across our border and into the United States. There are also past reports of members of Mexico's own military escorting Mexican Drug Cartels and drug shipments into the US, on US soil. By your own definition it was well within the duty, responsibility, and mission of the United States Military to engage and militarily defend the United States.

3. You / your definition does NOT address 'irregular warfare' and / or terrorist / non-official foreign military invasions / incursions / operations into the United States. Official US Govt Intel sources HAVE reported that terrorists / individuals associated with terrorist organizations HAVE infiltrated / invaded this country.

Both US Intel and Law Enforcement entities have officially reported that MS13 - an recognized internationally recognized violent crime organization - has invaded this country through our unsecured border and that they have perpetrated violent, heinous crimes against US citizens, to including HACKING CHILDREN / ADULTS TO PIECES and in one case SETTING A YOUNG GIRL ON FIRE AFTER SEVERAL MS13 MEMBERS GANG RAPED HER.

If you do think Mexican Drug Cartels, Human / Sex Traffickers MS13, and individuals associated with known terrorist groups entering the US is NOT an 'invasion' / is not part of an 'ATTACK' on the United States and its citizens then YOU'RE A FRIGGIN' IDIOT!

This is exactly what democrats want. Those candidates who spoke in Spanish have nothing to say to English speaking Americans. They have a lot to say to the foot soldiers of gangs who are actively killing Americans

You live in California and don't speak Spanish, sounds like a dumb idea but okay.. I speak Spanish and I grew up in OKC long way from da border.

 

[easyt65]

Show us the Express immigration clause right wingers, don't twist it with your implications. Only hypocrites do that and blame others.

Show us where the United States does NOT have the right to protect is national sovereignty / defend its borders from invasion.

Show us where Democrats can commit crimes - violate existing US Immigration and other Federal Laws - to promote, facilitate, and expand / increase illegal immigration.

Justify how the House of Representatives, who control govt sending, can falsely declare 'There is no crisis at the border - it is a manufactured one by this President', use that lie to REFUSE TO FUND the federal agencies having to address this overwhelming crisis without the necessary funding and resources to do so, and then blame the GOP and President for the horrific conditions that exist at the border due to THEIR refusal to act / address the crisis!

our supreme law of the land provides a solution, not any form of excuse.

In other words YOU CAN'T....because the Leftist Trump-Hating Talking Points you have memorized don't cover any of that.

 

[easyt65]

They both carry the same amount of military hardware..

Heavily armed Mexican Drug Cartels, the Mexican military, human/sex-traffickers, violent MS13 gang members illegally crossing our borders carry the same amount of 'military hardware' / weapons illegally as MONARCH BUTERFLIES?!

Thank you for proving you are either a liar who is over his head in this discussion or are just an ignorant / lying snowflake, either way, someone who is not worth wasting time listening to / talking with.

 

[danielpalos]

There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution. We have an express Establishment clause for Naturalization, every time the right wing has nothing but bigotry and ignorance.

Good boy. You have proven you have your Leftist Pro-Open Borders, Pro-Illegal Immigration Talking Points memorized. Polly want a cracker?

lol. only illegals don't care about the Law. only hypocrites blame the Poor.

 

[danielpalos]

Show us the Express immigration clause right wingers, don't twist it with your implications. Only hypocrites do that and blame others.

Show us where the United States does NOT have the right to protect is national sovereignty / defend its borders from invasion.

Show us where Democrats can commit crimes - violate existing US Immigration and other Federal Laws - to promote, facilitate, and expand / increase illegal immigration.

Justify how the House of Representatives, who control govt sending, can falsely declare 'There is no crisis at the border - it is a manufactured one by this President', use that lie to REFUSE TO FUND the federal agencies having to address this overwhelming crisis without the necessary funding and resources to do so, and then blame the GOP and President for the horrific conditions that exist at the border due to THEIR refusal to act / address the crisis!

our supreme law of the land provides a solution, not any form of excuse.

In other words YOU CAN'T....because the Leftist Trump-Hating Talking Points you have memorized don't cover any of that.

in right wing fantasy you can appeal to All of the ignorance you want, and still be right.

 

[easyt65]

in right wing fantasy you can appeal to All of the ignorance you want, and still be right.

I don't know anything about 'Right wing fantasy; - fantasy seems to be where Democrats and snowflakes like yourself have lived since Hillary lost the 2016 election. I also don't believe in 'appealing to ignorance' - I find doing so only encourages snowflakes to continue to deny reality and engage in emotional irrational defense of the indefensible.