US, Russia to meet in Saudi Arabia over Ukraine war

[Hollie]

The article, which you clearly did not read, said this was a gaffe, which the White House very quickly rectified.

Who fed you this one? We all know you didn’t find it on your own.

Just another Biden “gaffe” in a career filled with “gaffes”. Obviously, Biden’s pal, Putin, didn’t see it as a gaffe but another sign of weakness from a bumbling idiot.

 

[Hollie]

So much for the Euro’s being an effective NATO force. I’m not clear that Germany even has a military at this point. I suppose the answer is for the Ukie groupies / internet jihadis, in this thread to pick up a rifle and show us what they got.​

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Macron’s ‘Emergency’ Ukraine Summit in Paris Fails to Produce Unified European Strategy, as Poles and Germans Balk at Deploying Troops​

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[sparky]

So much for the Euro’s being an effective NATO force. I’m not clear that Germany even has a military at this point. I suppose the answer is for the Ukie groupies / internet jihadis, in this thread to pick up a rifle and show us what they got.​

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Macron’s ‘Emergency’ Ukraine Summit in Paris Fails to Produce Unified European Strategy, as Poles and Germans Balk at Deploying Troops​

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So it would seem our 'allies' lack both the $$$ ,as well as boots on the ground for the Uke's.....~S~

 

[Hollie]

So it would seem our 'allies' lack both the $$$ ,as well as boots on the ground for the Uke's.....~S~

I suspect the Euro expectation all along was that the US would take care of this for them.

 

[sparky]

I suspect the Euro expectation all along was that the US would take care of this for them.

yes Hollie....... Being an 'ally' or having an 'allegiance' means it's a two way street jmho........~S~

 

[konradv]

Trump is negotiating to end the war, so he is clearly working to reverse the disaster of Biden.

Russia and US agree to work toward ending Ukraine war in a remarkable diplomatic shift

The meeting is meant to pave the way for a meeting between U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

apnews.com

Trump wants Ukraine to giv up territory. That won’t be accepted and America is going to end up as much of a pariah as Russia.

 

[sparky]

Trump wants Ukraine to giv up territory

wouldn't that be their Minsk agreement we broke Kon?

~S~

 

[Hollie]

Trump wants Ukraine to giv up territory. That won’t be accepted and America is going to end up as much of a pariah as Russia.

I suppose you will need go fight in order to defend Ukraine’s borders. The Germans will be pleased you are fighting on their behalf.


When are you going?

 

[Care4all]

wouldn't that be their Minsk agreement we broke Kon?

~S~

No. Russia broke the agreement Sparky!

Minsk agreements - Wikipedia

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The agreement failed to stop fighting.<a href="Minsk agreements - Wikipedia" At the start of January 2015, Russia sent another large batch of its regular military.Following the Russian victory at Donetsk International Airport in defiance of the Protocol, Russia repeated its pattern of August 2014, invaded with fresh forces and attacked Ukrainian forces at Debaltseve, where Ukraine suffered a major defeat, and was forced to sign a Package of Measures for the Implementation of the Minsk Agreements, or Minsk II,<a href="Minsk agreements - Wikipedia"which was signed on 12 February 2015.<a href="Minsk agreements - WikipediaThis agreement consisted of a package of measures, including a ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weapons from the front line, release of prisoners of war, constitutional reform in Ukraine granting self-government to certain areas of Donbas and restoring control of the state border to the Ukrainian government. While fighting subsided following the agreement's signing, it never ended completely, and the agreement's provisions were never fully implemented. The former German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier suggested a mechanism of granting an autonomy to Eastern Donbas only after "the OSCE certified that the local elections had followed international standards", called the Steinmeier formula.

Amid rising tensions between Russia and Ukraine in early 2022, Russia officially recognised the DPR and LPR on 21 February 2022. Following that decision, on 22 February 2022, Russian President Vladimir Putin declared that the Minsk agreements "no longer existed", and that Ukraine, not Russia, was to blame for their coll... Russia then launched a full invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022.

 

[Care4all]

I suppose you will need go fight in order to defend Ukraine’s borders. The Germans will be pleased you are fighting on their behalf.


When are you going?

You as a Putin lover should go and fight with the war criminal Russians, no?

 

[konradv]

I suppose you will need go fight in order to defend Ukraine’s borders. The Germans will be pleased you are fighting on their behalf.


When are you going?

The Ukrainians can do it themselves. They just need supplies. Russia is circling the drain. Why else would Putin agree to a conference? Why is Trump attempting to save his bacon? What does Putin have on him? Is this some sort of ‘Adams’ situation?

 

[Hollie]

You as a Putin lover should go and fight with the war criminal Russians, no?

You as a Biden groupie should go to your cry corner.

 

[konradv]

wouldn't that be their Minsk agreement we broke

Ukraine wants their territory back, case closed. Is that so hard to understand?

 

[Hollie]

The Ukrainians can do it themselves. They just need supplies. Russia is circling the drain. Why else would Putin agree to a conference? Why is Trump attempting to save his bacon? What does Putin have on him? Is this some sort of ‘Adams’ situation?

Yours is the usual, leftist, conspiracy theory drivel. What did Putin have on Biden when ole’ Stumblebum gave Putin an invitation for a minor incursion?

 

[Care4all]

You as a Biden groupie should go to your cry corner.

I'm not a Biden groupie, but I do know right from wrong, which you seem to lack.

 

[konradv]

Yours is the usual, leftist, conspiracy theory drivel. What did Putin have on Biden when ole’ Stumblebum gave Putin an invitation for a minor incursion?

OMG, conspiracy theories! Let’s contact Q!

 

[Hollie]

I'm not a Biden groupie, but I do know right from wrong, which you seem to lack.

You’re a card-carrying Biden groupie. While you lecture on right and wrong, make up some excuse for why you’re not going to do the right thing and go fight to defend the Ukes.

Can we agree you’re just another internet blowhard?

 

[konradv]

You’re a card-carrying Biden groupie. While you lecture on right and wrong, make up some excuse for why you’re not going to do the right thing and go fight to defend the Ukes.

Can we agree you’re just another internet blowhard?

Defending Ukraine is the right thing. Trump and Putin are criminals.

 

[Hollie]

Defending Ukraine is the right thing. Trump and Putin are criminals.

When are you going to do the right thing and go defend Uke land? Euro NATO needs you to do what they won’t.

Come on internet tough guy. Do the right thing.

 

[konradv]

When are you going to do the right thing and go defend Uke land? Euro NATO needs you to do what they won’t.

Come on internet tough guy. Do the right thing.

When you go to Ruzzia.