US, Russia to meet in Saudi Arabia over Ukraine war

[Hollie]

I can't answer for Biden as I'm not in his mind, but what does that have to do w/what's happening now? We are where we are and have to live and deal w/that reality.

Ukraine was getting all the help they needed by the US providing them w/unused and older munitions. I was happy about that. That's how I'm helping. How are/were you helping?

And I'll ask again for the fourth or fifth time in this thread alone, do you believe that Ukraine is a sovereign nation w/the right to defend itself against aggressions of other nations like Putin's Russia, or do you believe that Putin's word and will rule?

I’ll advise you for the fourth or fifth time that I’ve responded to you whining while you have been unable to address a single point I have made.

As you have been unable to address why you have no disagreement with Biden’s allowance for a minor incursion by Putin, I must assume you don’t believe that the Uke’s have a sovereign nation.

 

[MarcATL]

I’ll advise you for the fourth or fifth time that I’ve responded to you whining while you have been unable to address a single point I have made.

As you have been unable to address why you have no disagreement with Biden’s allowance for a minor incursion by Putin, I must assume you don’t believe that the Uke’s have a sovereign nation.

I take it back, you've been very clear in your answer that you believe Putin's word and will rules the day.

Thank you for engaging.

 

[MisterBeale]

Trump Adviser Gives Four Tenets of Deal to End War in Ukraine | The Libertarian Institute

National Security Adviser Mike Waltz discussed some of the core issues for Donald Trump in the upcoming talks on ending the war in Ukraine. He did not confirm that Ukraine would be involved in the talks. On Fox News Sunday, Waltz explained, "Number one, it has to be a permanent…

libertarianinstitute.org

". . .National Security Adviser Mike Waltz discussed some of the core issues for Donald Trump in the upcoming talks on ending the war in Ukraine. He did not confirm that Ukraine would be involved in the talks.

On Fox News Sunday, Waltz explained, “Number one, it has to be a permanent end to the war, not a temporary end to the war. Number two, this can’t be ended on the battlefield. This has turned into a World War I-style meat grinder of human beings.” He continued, “Number three, I talked about how the structure of our aid has to change. Then number four, we’re talking about economic integration going forward as the best arbiter of peace. . . .”

 

[Hollie]

I take it back, you've been very clear in your answer that you believe Putin's word and will rules the day.

Thank you for engaging.

Oh dear, take your ball and bat and run along.

You’ve been clear you’re a Putin groupie and don’t believe Ukraine is a sovereign nation.

 

[Hollie]

Trump Adviser Gives Four Tenets of Deal to End War in Ukraine | The Libertarian Institute

National Security Adviser Mike Waltz discussed some of the core issues for Donald Trump in the upcoming talks on ending the war in Ukraine. He did not confirm that Ukraine would be involved in the talks. On Fox News Sunday, Waltz explained, "Number one, it has to be a permanent…

libertarianinstitute.org

". . .National Security Adviser Mike Waltz discussed some of the core issues for Donald Trump in the upcoming talks on ending the war in Ukraine. He did not confirm that Ukraine would be involved in the talks.

On Fox News Sunday, Waltz explained, “Number one, it has to be a permanent end to the war, not a temporary end to the war. Number two, this can’t be ended on the battlefield. This has turned into a World War I-style meat grinder of human beings.” He continued, “Number three, I talked about how the structure of our aid has to change. Then number four, we’re talking about economic integration going forward as the best arbiter of peace. . . .”

This is sure to infuriate liberals. They’re desperate to continue the war.

 

[kyzr]

Prove me wrong

Post a fucking link proving you're right.

I proved you wrong in post #12

 

[rightwinger]

Post a fucking link proving you're right.

I proved you wrong in post #12

Try again Skippy
That was a lukewarm endorsement from 5 years ago

Why not post what NATO says about Trump TODAY?

 

[konradv]

ya, I served during Vietnam. Learned a lot there 57000 For what
You think your so smart.... I bet you can tell time too

What does a Vietnam have to do with Russia and Ukraine, except that now MAGA is backing the commies!

 

[Hollie]

What does a Vietnam have to do with Russia and Ukraine, except that now MAGA is backing the commies!

Who is backing the commies? It was Biden who allowed his Buddy Putin a minor incursion into Uke.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Trump is giving Russia what they have wanted for 80 years.

A fractured western alliance and a President who will not hold him accountable

Anal Anachronism

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Echoes of Munich ‘38, when Czechoslovakia was not included in the discussions of their demise.

Anorexic Anachronism

 

[konradv]

Who is backing the commies? It was Biden who allowed his Buddy Putin a minor incursion into Uke.

Trump and Putin are the buddies. They think they can meet and divide up Ukraine, like what happened to Czechoslovakia in ‘38. Problem is, Zelensky isn’t going to play Beneš.

 

[konradv]

Anorexic Anachronism

How so? It sounds spot on!

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

First thing President Biden did was build a strong alliance with the EU to hold Russia accountable.

Trump is entering negotiations after giving away all his bargaining chips

No coordination with our allies
Taking NATO membership off the table
Conceding captured territory to Russia
Offering to drop sanctions

While You're at It, How About Declaring War on Germany, Italy, and Japan?

 

[konradv]

While You're at It, How About Declaring War on Germany, Italy, and Japan?

That’s what Trump is doing.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

ya, I served during Vietnam. Learned a lot there 57000 For what
You think your so smart.... I bet you can tell time too

Before the RichKid Reich Could Stab Us in the Back, They Crushed Our Backbone

The purpose of the Vietnam War was to kill off or take the fight out of the bravest sons of the White working class. MIssion Accomplished.

 

[TimFitz]

While sure to infuriate liberals, Trump will meet Putin in the KSA to begin talks to end Ukraine war.

This is devastating for liberals as the endless war was an opportunity to keep a steady flow of taxpayer cash to the little comedian, plus they could enjoy the death and destruction.

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-team-start-russia-ukraine-peace-talks-saudi-arabia-coming-days-politico-2025-02-15/

So, Trump plans to play Neville Chamberlain to Vladimir Putin.

Trump has always kowtowed to Putin, embarrassingly so.

He prostrates before him.

One cannot understate the disgrace this brings on our country. Real Americans are ashamed of the way these clowns are surrendering our standing in the world, and, thus, our influence.

Standing up for Ukraine and against the Russian invasion is the right thing to do.

Did you ever wonder why global media expresses its shock, while Russian media is cheering?

Putin is calling the tune that Trump is dancing too.

It is rank betrayal.

And when Trump can’t close the deal, we will have divided the western alliance, betraying the legacy of Roosevelt and Churchill.

Ans laying waste to our destiny.

 

[rightwinger]

So, Trump plans to play Neville Chamberlain to Vladimir Putin.

Trump has always kowtowed to Putin, embarrassingly so.

He prostrates before him.

One cannot understate the disgrace this brings on our country. Real Americans are ashamed of the way these clowns are surrendering our standing in the world, and, thus, our influence.

Standing up for Ukraine and against the Russian invasion is the right thing to do.

Did you ever wonder why global media expresses its shock, while Russian media is cheering?

Putin is calling the tune that Trump is dancing too.

It is rank betrayal.

And when Trump can’t close the deal, we will have divided the western alliance, betraying the legacy of Roosevelt and Churchill.

Ans laying waste to our destiny.

The most embarrassing thing is Trump abandoning the western alliance and basically delivering surrender terms to Ukraine

 

[kyzr]

The most embarrassing thing is Trump abandoning the western alliance and basically delivering surrender terms to Ukraine

LIAR.

Trump wants to strengthen NATO by getting members to budget 5% of GDP instead of 2%.

Trump says NATO countries are 'taking advantage' and should contribute 5% of GDP

The transatlantic alliance reached a milestone in 2024 when all non-U.S. NATO allies spent the 2% target on average for the first time.

www.usatoday.com

Trump says NATO countries are 'taking advantage' and should contribute 5% of GDP​

 

[rightwinger]

LIAR.

Trump wants to strengthen NATO by getting members to budget 5% of GDP instead of 2%.

Trump says NATO countries are 'taking advantage' and should contribute 5% of GDP

The transatlantic alliance reached a milestone in 2024 when all non-U.S. NATO allies spent the 2% target on average for the first time.

www.usatoday.com

Trump says NATO countries are 'taking advantage' and should contribute 5% of GDP​

Everything with Trump comes down to $$$$$

He doesn’t care about NATO mission, NATO strengths, countering threats

Just who pays what