Not a bad idea, we have enough to deal with with dembot brownshirts, we should screen foreigners to ensure they aren’t terroristThe Trump admin is proposing that foreign tourists planning to visit the US must provide five years of social media posts in advance before being permitted entry. If so the US would join such democracies as Russia and China. Thoughts USMB? I would submit that this will massively impact foreign tourism to the US. I know if that was required for our former trips to Europe I would have never even contemplated them.
Trump ramps up tourist checks with plans for mandatory social media inspections
Exclusive: ‘These barriers will hit UK travel to the USA hard’ says Julia Lo Bue-Said, chief executive of Advantage Travel Partnership
Trump ramps up tourist checks with mandatory social media inspection plans
Exclusive: ‘These barriers will hit UK travel to the USA hard’ says Julia Lo Bue-Said, chief executive of Advantage Travel Partnershipwww.the-independent.com
Football fans heading for the 2026 World Cup, as well as other British travellers planning visits to the US, will soon have to provide details of their social media activity going back five years.
The demand is included in a new document from the Department of Homeland Security setting out how it plans to comply with Donald Trump’s demand that foreign visitors should be “vetted and screened to the maximum degree possible”.
At present, the application form for the electronic system for travel authorisation (Esta) invites prospective visitors to reveal their social media accounts, but this is not mandatory. The permit costs $40 (£30) and allows stays of up to 90 days within two years.
US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officials have the option to inspect phones belonging to arriving travellers. According to reports, some tourists have been turned away for making unfavourable comments about Donald Trump and vice president JD Vance.
Soon an applicant’s social media activity could be screened in advance, with officials deciding whether or not to issue an Esta to the traveller.
In the document, to be published in the Federal Register on Wednesday 10 December, US Customs and Border Protection says: “CBP is adding social media as a mandatory data element for an Esta application.
“The data element will require Esta applicants to provide their social media from the last five years.”
Being granted an Esta will now depend on a successful screening of social media accounts (Getty/iStock)
Officials are seeking comments from organisations and individuals on the plan.
A leading travel industry figure has deplored the demand. Julia Lo Bue-Said, chief executive of the Advantage Travel Partnership, said: “These barriers will hit UK travel to the USA hard. History shows us that when a destination becomes harder to reach, British holidaymakers simply go elsewhere.
“Right now, US bookings are up 20 per cent across our membership, driven by events like the football World Cup, but new obstacles could quickly reverse that trend.”
Other proposals in the document include a plan to end applications via the Esta website – requiring all applicants to use the app instead.
The document says: “CBP believes that moving to a mobile-only approach for Esta submissions will both enhance security and improve efficiency.
“Poor-quality image uploads to the Esta website have resulted in applicants bypassing the facial comparison screening.
“CBP believes that travellers are aware of this vulnerability and have begun to exploit it by purposely uploading poor-quality images to avoid detection.
"Additionally, CBP continues to struggle with fraudulent third-party websites. Third-party fraudulent websites charge travellers exorbitant fees to process an application, where many of these applications may never be processed by CBP, resulting in a traveller being unable to board a US-bound plane.”
In addition, the authorities propose a new system to confirm that short-term visitors have left the country – should their departure not be reported through the normal channels such as airline data.
US Proposing to Require Review of five Years of Social Media for Foreign Tourists Entering the US
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Zincwarrior
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Kiss billions in tourist income goodbye. Vegas is fucked
Sure from tourist. They aren’t tourist if they can’t follow our laws and pass a simple screening
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I would not either.
Tourist pass screenings. Those that can’t aren’t tourist
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No, they won't try. Would you?
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US could ask tourists for five-year social media history before entry
The plan would affect people from countries, including the UK, who can fill out a form in lieu of a visa.
www.bbc.com
"US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry"
Can you imagine how much evidence you'd have to provide? Either you give the US government you passwords to these sites, or you'd have to print it off. Imagine Facebook. How would you even know where to start? Facebook doesn't keep information right there. Groups and things like that.
And this is the Trump government that criticized Europe for lack of freedom of speech.
The difference is these are foreigners trying to come to our country. We need to vet them, and we have every right to.US could ask tourists for five-year social media history before entry
The plan would affect people from countries, including the UK, who can fill out a form in lieu of a visa.
"US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry"
Can you imagine how much evidence you'd have to provide? Either you give the US government you passwords to these sites, or you'd have to print it off. Imagine Facebook. How would you even know where to start? Facebook doesn't keep information right there. Groups and things like that.
And this is the Trump government that criticized Europe for lack of freedom of speech.
If they don’t want to show their history to prove themselves, then they can find another country to immigrate to.
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Well, the first thing is, it's impossible. How would it happen? Who would bother going through that to go to the US? Tourism would fall off a cliff.
This isn't about immigration. This is about tourism. This is 90 day visa free.
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Good. Don’t allow terrorists and unhinged lunatics on our country, even if it’s just for tourism.The Trump admin is proposing that foreign tourists planning to visit the US must provide five years of social media posts in advance before being permitted entry. If so the US would join such democracies as Russia and China. Thoughts USMB? I would submit that this will massively impact foreign tourism to the US. I know if that was required for our former trips to Europe I would have never even contemplated them.
Trump ramps up tourist checks with plans for mandatory social media inspections
Exclusive: ‘These barriers will hit UK travel to the USA hard’ says Julia Lo Bue-Said, chief executive of Advantage Travel Partnership
Trump ramps up tourist checks with mandatory social media inspection plans
Exclusive: ‘These barriers will hit UK travel to the USA hard’ says Julia Lo Bue-Said, chief executive of Advantage Travel Partnership
Football fans heading for the 2026 World Cup, as well as other British travellers planning visits to the US, will soon have to provide details of their social media activity going back five years.
The demand is included in a new document from the Department of Homeland Security setting out how it plans to comply with Donald Trump’s demand that foreign visitors should be “vetted and screened to the maximum degree possible”.
At present, the application form for the electronic system for travel authorisation (Esta) invites prospective visitors to reveal their social media accounts, but this is not mandatory. The permit costs $40 (£30) and allows stays of up to 90 days within two years.
US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officials have the option to inspect phones belonging to arriving travellers. According to reports, some tourists have been turned away for making unfavourable comments about Donald Trump and vice president JD Vance.
Soon an applicant’s social media activity could be screened in advance, with officials deciding whether or not to issue an Esta to the traveller.
In the document, to be published in the Federal Register on Wednesday 10 December, US Customs and Border Protection says: “CBP is adding social media as a mandatory data element for an Esta application.
“The data element will require Esta applicants to provide their social media from the last five years.”
Being granted an Esta will now depend on a successful screening of social media accounts (Getty/iStock)
Officials are seeking comments from organisations and individuals on the plan.
A leading travel industry figure has deplored the demand. Julia Lo Bue-Said, chief executive of the Advantage Travel Partnership, said: “These barriers will hit UK travel to the USA hard. History shows us that when a destination becomes harder to reach, British holidaymakers simply go elsewhere.
“Right now, US bookings are up 20 per cent across our membership, driven by events like the football World Cup, but new obstacles could quickly reverse that trend.”
Other proposals in the document include a plan to end applications via the Esta website – requiring all applicants to use the app instead.
The document says: “CBP believes that moving to a mobile-only approach for Esta submissions will both enhance security and improve efficiency.
“Poor-quality image uploads to the Esta website have resulted in applicants bypassing the facial comparison screening.
“CBP believes that travellers are aware of this vulnerability and have begun to exploit it by purposely uploading poor-quality images to avoid detection.
"Additionally, CBP continues to struggle with fraudulent third-party websites. Third-party fraudulent websites charge travellers exorbitant fees to process an application, where many of these applications may never be processed by CBP, resulting in a traveller being unable to board a US-bound plane.”
In addition, the authorities propose a new system to confirm that short-term visitors have left the country – should their departure not be reported through the normal channels such as airline data.
They don't need a visa if they fill out the form. It's right in the article. This sounds like a legitimate use of AI, anyone with anti-American social media could be rejected along with all those dirtbags that come here to work on tourist visas attempting to thwart our taxes.
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Yes. But not from those who hate us and might act on that hate.
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So, you have to post pro-American things to get into America?
Who decides what's "pro-American"?
Is a person who says "Trump is an asshole", "anti-American"?
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Those are good questions. What we need is a pause in immigration end tourism until the regulations catch up.US could ask tourists for five-year social media history before entry
The plan would affect people from countries, including the UK, who can fill out a form in lieu of a visa.
"US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry"
Can you imagine how much evidence you'd have to provide? Either you give the US government you passwords to these sites, or you'd have to print it off. Imagine Facebook. How would you even know where to start? Facebook doesn't keep information right there. Groups and things like that.
If a European uses their free speech to advocate violence against the United States and Americans that is their right and I think Europe should honor that right.
But there is no "right" to enter the United States.
There is a difference between anti-American and other things. I would hope that would be obvious. Saying nothing bad would not trigger any flags. You would need to find out the official criteria, guessing and speculation only serve to confuse the issue.
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You think the US economy can deal with that loss of money. That's like $3 trillion a year. That's a lot of money. A lot of people would lose their jobs.
I didn't say there was a right to enter the US.
The problem is people attacking Europe for lacking free speech, and then going after people in this manner. It's hypocrisy.
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Well, do you trust Trump to differentiate between "anti-American" and "anti-Trump"?
