US Muslims are a key to identifying and elimination of homegrown terrorists.

[g5000]

Why? What does that prove about innocent Muslims?

That is the point. We are trying to determine if any muslim is innocent or not. We are not trying to frame them, we are trying to find out if they have any contribution to this whole mess. Because we are not talking about just some people shooting innocent AMERICAN CITIZENS, we are talking about a terrorist state being funded and supported by legitimate governments of other muslim states who are being elected by millions of muslims.

We are trying to find out, as a muslim; have you voted for an islamist regime, have you supported any islamist regime, have you been affiliated with an islamist regime, have you been in support of an anti-secular sectarian regime..........

USA has every right to find out this information, citizen or not, this is the survival of the ideas that this nation is standing on, we are talking about.........

Then every Muslim has the right to demand that every American endure the same scrutiny.

If any Americans were to imigrate to any muslim state, well, they certainly would....

In the 60s, 70s, and 80s, we used to call these terrrorists "Arabs", not Muslims.

That is a more accurate term. Terrorism emanates from the Middle East, which is only part of the global Muslim community.

This last shooting, they were Pakistani, not Arabs...

Farooq is a common Arab name.

It is a muslim name. You can find it in any muslim country, with no Arab population.

And I said "more accurate" and clarified terrorism emanates from the Middle East. Pakistan is in the M.E.

 

[alpine]

That is the point. We are trying to determine if any muslim is innocent or not. We are not trying to frame them, we are trying to find out if they have any contribution to this whole mess. Because we are not talking about just some people shooting innocent AMERICAN CITIZENS, we are talking about a terrorist state being funded and supported by legitimate governments of other muslim states who are being elected by millions of muslims.

We are trying to find out, as a muslim; have you voted for an islamist regime, have you supported any islamist regime, have you been affiliated with an islamist regime, have you been in support of an anti-secular sectarian regime..........

USA has every right to find out this information, citizen or not, this is the survival of the ideas that this nation is standing on, we are talking about.........

Then every Muslim has the right to demand that every American endure the same scrutiny.

If any Americans were to imigrate to any muslim state, well, they certainly would....

In the 60s, 70s, and 80s, we used to call these terrrorists "Arabs", not Muslims.

That is a more accurate term. Terrorism emanates from the Middle East, which is only part of the global Muslim community.

This last shooting, they were Pakistani, not Arabs...

Farooq is a common Arab name.

It is a muslim name. You can find it in any muslim country, with no Arab population.

And I said "more accurate" and clarified terrorism emanates from the Middle East. Pakistan is in the M.E.

Not really, but let it be as you say........

 

[koshergrl]

Yes, basis on your religion, it would track your connections, affiliations, who you are voting for back in your muslim country, who you are supporting as a political figure back in your muslim country and so and on...

You are in this database?

USA has all the right to know about the affiliations of her muslim citizens. Because we are talking about a terrorist state funded and supported by other "non-terrorist" muslim states. If a muslim is voting for an islamist party back in his/her country who is supporting ISIS because they are sunni, than USA has the right to do something aboutr this affiliations and choice.

Umh. No. It does not have that right. We're talking American citizens, yes?

Everybody responsible or their actions, for their choices.... Everybody.......

Of course. So what religious database have you voluntarily registered in?

Citizen or not, doesn't matter, if you are one way or another affiliated with a terrorist state, people supporting a terrorist state, people affiliated with a terrorist state, with its political and economic relations, than there is price for you to pay......................

when i say "you" i dont mean you, it is whoever this person is....

What's affiliated mean?

Being Muslim of course.

They're are caving to that temptation, that of blaming the many for the crimes of the few.

The few number in the MILLIONS and are extremely well funded by mainstream Islam.

So **** off, traitor.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What's affiliated mean?

Being Muslim of course.

They're are caving to that temptation, that of blaming the many for the crimes of the few.

Who is they???

Those who used to be capable of distinguishing the innocent from the guilty.

Who is innocent?

For instance, Turkish state caught supporting ISIS, sending them military equipment and buying their oil.

Turkish state governed by a sectarian sunni islamist political party, headed by RECEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN.

This guy got 23 million votes in the last elections.

SO, the million dollar question; are 23 million Turks who supported the Erdogan regime who supported the ISIS terrorist state, innocent or guilty?

Do people bear responsibility for their choices in life, or they can just wash away their hands if their choices end up causing destruction and chaos world wide?

In America, everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You are in this database?

Umh. No. It does not have that right. We're talking American citizens, yes?

Of course. So what religious database have you voluntarily registered in?

Citizen or not, doesn't matter, if you are one way or another affiliated with a terrorist state, people supporting a terrorist state, people affiliated with a terrorist state, with its political and economic relations, than there is price for you to pay......................

when i say "you" i dont mean you, it is whoever this person is....

What's affiliated mean?

Being Muslim of course.

They're are caving to that temptation, that of blaming the many for the crimes of the few.

The few number in the MILLIONS and are extremely well funded by mainstream Islam.

So **** off, traitor.

You could turn Jesus into a wife beater.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Really? Would you voluntarily register in a government database?

Yes, already applied....

Is it a database that tracks you on the basis of your religion?

Yes, basis on your religion, it would track your connections, affiliations, who you are voting for back in your muslim country, who you are supporting as a political figure back in your muslim country and so and on...

USA has all the right to know about the affiliations of her muslim citizens. Because we are talking about a terrorist state funded and supported by other "non-terrorist" muslim states. If a muslim is voting for an islamist party back in his/her country who is supporting ISIS because they are sunni, than USA has the right to do something aboutr this affiliations and choice.

Everybody responsible or their actions, for their choices.... Everybody.......

Germans thought they had a right to register Jews in a database too.

If there was a jewish terrorist state funded by other fellow jews, they might have had a point. But there was none, was there?

Not according to those who justified putting together a list of Jews in Germany in the 1930's.

 

[idb]

You remember that database Trump was talking about, I think every muslim should be voluntarily get into that database........

Your database would be fine with me...if all religious people had to register.

Why would they?

Is there a christian terrorist state supported and funded by other christin states all over the world?

But there is one islamist terrorist state funded and supported by other muslim states.

Why would a christian or a hindu or a jew, or a buddhist should be registering to any database, while profiling such religions would serve no purpose, while on the other hand profiling muslims, indeeeeeed, servers a very legit purpose at the end of the day.

Dont you think?

It would serve the same purpose registering Muslims would serve.

Name me another religion based terrorist state on this planet, that is being supported and funded by their fellow believers, other than ISIS...

Daesh is not a state....it's a criminal organisation.

 

[idb]

Really? Would you voluntarily register in a government database?

Yes, already applied....

Is it a database that tracks you on the basis of your religion?

Yes, basis on your religion, it would track your connections, affiliations, who you are voting for back in your muslim country, who you are supporting as a political figure back in your muslim country and so and on...

You are in this database?

USA has all the right to know about the affiliations of her muslim citizens. Because we are talking about a terrorist state funded and supported by other "non-terrorist" muslim states. If a muslim is voting for an islamist party back in his/her country who is supporting ISIS because they are sunni, than USA has the right to do something aboutr this affiliations and choice.

Umh. No. It does not have that right. We're talking American citizens, yes?

Everybody responsible or their actions, for their choices.... Everybody.......

Of course. So what religious database have you voluntarily registered in?

Citizen or not, doesn't matter, if you are one way or another affiliated with a terrorist state, people supporting a terrorist state, people affiliated with a terrorist state, with its political and economic relations, than there is price for you to pay......................

when i say "you" i dont mean you, it is whoever this person is....

Daesh is not a state.

 

[ElmerMudd]

US Muslims who can identify terrorists aren't doing so already? They need us to "embrace" them before they do the right thing? Is that really what you are saying? Because that's what it sounds like you are saying.

US Muslims who can identify terrorists aren't doing so already? They need us to "embrace" them before they do the right thing? Is that really what you are saying? Because that's what it sounds like you are saying.
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No, what I am saying is we need to provide an atmosphere where the Muslim community is very comfortable and trusting to work with the government and other citizens in turning in terrorists. If Muslims feel the government and others are against them. Like some of the idiots on this post saying we should deport all Muslims. These idiots are what ISIS wants all Muslims to think westerners are like. These idiots are playing into ISIS hands.

Comfortable? Like the neighbor of the terrorists who didn't report them for fear of being called racist? Oh wait. That was just some non Muslim.

You are saying AGAIN that we need to kiss every Muslim's ass to get them to do the right thing because, well, after all, some people want to deport them all. You are saying that we must convince Muslims that we westerners are not what ISIS says we are. Surely, good guy Muslims living here already know that, don't they?

Treat them the same way you would someone who wasn't Muslim.

Exactly!

So if they are suspected terrorists we should allow them to purchase guns because being a suspected terrorist is not a reason to withhold the right to bear arms.

Absolutely not, any suspected terrorist should not be able to buy arms. All terrorists are not Muslims. Guns rights extremists have lobbied against not selling guns to people on the no fly list which are all suspected terrorists. CRAZY

 

[alpine]

Yes, already applied....

Is it a database that tracks you on the basis of your religion?

Yes, basis on your religion, it would track your connections, affiliations, who you are voting for back in your muslim country, who you are supporting as a political figure back in your muslim country and so and on...

You are in this database?

USA has all the right to know about the affiliations of her muslim citizens. Because we are talking about a terrorist state funded and supported by other "non-terrorist" muslim states. If a muslim is voting for an islamist party back in his/her country who is supporting ISIS because they are sunni, than USA has the right to do something aboutr this affiliations and choice.

Umh. No. It does not have that right. We're talking American citizens, yes?

Everybody responsible or their actions, for their choices.... Everybody.......

Of course. So what religious database have you voluntarily registered in?

Citizen or not, doesn't matter, if you are one way or another affiliated with a terrorist state, people supporting a terrorist state, people affiliated with a terrorist state, with its political and economic relations, than there is price for you to pay......................

when i say "you" i dont mean you, it is whoever this person is....

Daesh is not a state.

Their capital is Raqqa, they mint coins, they assign mayors, they control a sizable land, and they have business relations with other states, like Saudi, Qatar and Turkey.

 

[alpine]

Being Muslim of course.

They're are caving to that temptation, that of blaming the many for the crimes of the few.

Who is they???

Those who used to be capable of distinguishing the innocent from the guilty.

Who is innocent?

For instance, Turkish state caught supporting ISIS, sending them military equipment and buying their oil.

Turkish state governed by a sectarian sunni islamist political party, headed by RECEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN.

This guy got 23 million votes in the last elections.

SO, the million dollar question; are 23 million Turks who supported the Erdogan regime who supported the ISIS terrorist state, innocent or guilty?

Do people bear responsibility for their choices in life, or they can just wash away their hands if their choices end up causing destruction and chaos world wide?

In America, everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

That is the point.

USA has every right to try its muslim population, because there is a crime here. Knowingly voting for a sectarian anti-secular islamist political party supporting a terrorist state is a crime, a crime against HUMANITY.

And people pay for their crimes, in America, not?

 

[idb]

Is it a database that tracks you on the basis of your religion?

Yes, basis on your religion, it would track your connections, affiliations, who you are voting for back in your muslim country, who you are supporting as a political figure back in your muslim country and so and on...

You are in this database?

USA has all the right to know about the affiliations of her muslim citizens. Because we are talking about a terrorist state funded and supported by other "non-terrorist" muslim states. If a muslim is voting for an islamist party back in his/her country who is supporting ISIS because they are sunni, than USA has the right to do something aboutr this affiliations and choice.

Umh. No. It does not have that right. We're talking American citizens, yes?

Everybody responsible or their actions, for their choices.... Everybody.......

Of course. So what religious database have you voluntarily registered in?

Citizen or not, doesn't matter, if you are one way or another affiliated with a terrorist state, people supporting a terrorist state, people affiliated with a terrorist state, with its political and economic relations, than there is price for you to pay......................

when i say "you" i dont mean you, it is whoever this person is....

Daesh is not a state.

Their capital is Raqqa, they mint coins, they assign mayors, they control a sizable land, and they have business relations with other states, like Saudi, Qatar and Turkey.

That could be the mafia.

 

[idb]

They're are caving to that temptation, that of blaming the many for the crimes of the few.

Who is they???

Those who used to be capable of distinguishing the innocent from the guilty.

Who is innocent?

For instance, Turkish state caught supporting ISIS, sending them military equipment and buying their oil.

Turkish state governed by a sectarian sunni islamist political party, headed by RECEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN.

This guy got 23 million votes in the last elections.

SO, the million dollar question; are 23 million Turks who supported the Erdogan regime who supported the ISIS terrorist state, innocent or guilty?

Do people bear responsibility for their choices in life, or they can just wash away their hands if their choices end up causing destruction and chaos world wide?

In America, everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

That is the point.

USA has every right to try its muslim population, because there is a crime here. Knowingly voting for a sectarian anti-secular islamist political party supporting a terrorist state is a crime, a crime against HUMANITY.

And people pay for their crimes, in America, not?

Being Muslim is a crime?
You are quite the fascist aren't you?

 

[alpine]

Yes, basis on your religion, it would track your connections, affiliations, who you are voting for back in your muslim country, who you are supporting as a political figure back in your muslim country and so and on...

You are in this database?

USA has all the right to know about the affiliations of her muslim citizens. Because we are talking about a terrorist state funded and supported by other "non-terrorist" muslim states. If a muslim is voting for an islamist party back in his/her country who is supporting ISIS because they are sunni, than USA has the right to do something aboutr this affiliations and choice.

Umh. No. It does not have that right. We're talking American citizens, yes?

Everybody responsible or their actions, for their choices.... Everybody.......

Of course. So what religious database have you voluntarily registered in?

Citizen or not, doesn't matter, if you are one way or another affiliated with a terrorist state, people supporting a terrorist state, people affiliated with a terrorist state, with its political and economic relations, than there is price for you to pay......................

when i say "you" i dont mean you, it is whoever this person is....

Daesh is not a state.

Their capital is Raqqa, they mint coins, they assign mayors, they control a sizable land, and they have business relations with other states, like Saudi, Qatar and Turkey.

That could be the mafia.

Mafia minting their coins and controlling a land mass with natural resources. Taxing the businesses and population, appointing mayors, holding an army....

Hmmm.... Really??? Not even the south American cartel can do that. Really wonder which mafia that is.

 

[alpine]

Who is they???

Those who used to be capable of distinguishing the innocent from the guilty.

Who is innocent?

For instance, Turkish state caught supporting ISIS, sending them military equipment and buying their oil.

Turkish state governed by a sectarian sunni islamist political party, headed by RECEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN.

This guy got 23 million votes in the last elections.

SO, the million dollar question; are 23 million Turks who supported the Erdogan regime who supported the ISIS terrorist state, innocent or guilty?

Do people bear responsibility for their choices in life, or they can just wash away their hands if their choices end up causing destruction and chaos world wide?

In America, everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

That is the point.

USA has every right to try its muslim population, because there is a crime here. Knowingly voting for a sectarian anti-secular islamist political party supporting a terrorist state is a crime, a crime against HUMANITY.

And people pay for their crimes, in America, not?

Being Muslim is a crime?
You are quite the fascist aren't you?

I am a muslim, if that matters.................................................................................

 

[alpine]

Who is they???

Those who used to be capable of distinguishing the innocent from the guilty.

Who is innocent?

For instance, Turkish state caught supporting ISIS, sending them military equipment and buying their oil.

Turkish state governed by a sectarian sunni islamist political party, headed by RECEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN.

This guy got 23 million votes in the last elections.

SO, the million dollar question; are 23 million Turks who supported the Erdogan regime who supported the ISIS terrorist state, innocent or guilty?

Do people bear responsibility for their choices in life, or they can just wash away their hands if their choices end up causing destruction and chaos world wide?

In America, everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

That is the point.

USA has every right to try its muslim population, because there is a crime here. Knowingly voting for a sectarian anti-secular islamist political party supporting a terrorist state is a crime, a crime against HUMANITY.

And people pay for their crimes, in America, not?

Being Muslim is a crime?
You are quite the fascist aren't you?

Ohhh, and a SUNNI too.... if that really matters........................................

 

[Papageorgio]

US Muslims who can identify terrorists aren't doing so already? They need us to "embrace" them before they do the right thing? Is that really what you are saying? Because that's what it sounds like you are saying.
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No, what I am saying is we need to provide an atmosphere where the Muslim community is very comfortable and trusting to work with the government and other citizens in turning in terrorists. If Muslims feel the government and others are against them. Like some of the idiots on this post saying we should deport all Muslims. These idiots are what ISIS wants all Muslims to think westerners are like. These idiots are playing into ISIS hands.

Comfortable? Like the neighbor of the terrorists who didn't report them for fear of being called racist? Oh wait. That was just some non Muslim.

You are saying AGAIN that we need to kiss every Muslim's ass to get them to do the right thing because, well, after all, some people want to deport them all. You are saying that we must convince Muslims that we westerners are not what ISIS says we are. Surely, good guy Muslims living here already know that, don't they?

Treat them the same way you would someone who wasn't Muslim.

Exactly!

So if they are suspected terrorists we should allow them to purchase guns because being a suspected terrorist is not a reason to withhold the right to bear arms.

Absolutely not, any suspected terrorist should not be able to buy arms. All terrorists are not Muslims. Guns rights extremists have lobbied against not selling guns to people on the no fly list which are all suspected terrorists. CRAZY

I thought we are supposed to build trust, treat them with respect and help them feel that they can trust government. How can that happen when we deny them the 2nd Amendment rights that every other religious, ethnic and racial group has? Something tells me ISIS has you where they want you, playing on your fear.

 

[idb]

You are in this database?

Umh. No. It does not have that right. We're talking American citizens, yes?

Of course. So what religious database have you voluntarily registered in?

Citizen or not, doesn't matter, if you are one way or another affiliated with a terrorist state, people supporting a terrorist state, people affiliated with a terrorist state, with its political and economic relations, than there is price for you to pay......................

when i say "you" i dont mean you, it is whoever this person is....

Daesh is not a state.

Their capital is Raqqa, they mint coins, they assign mayors, they control a sizable land, and they have business relations with other states, like Saudi, Qatar and Turkey.

That could be the mafia.

Mafia minting their coins and controlling a land mass with natural resources. Taxing the businesses and population, appointing mayors, holding an army....

Hmmm.... Really??? Not even the south American cartel can do that. Really wonder which mafia that is.

Minting coins is is enough to give a self-declared 'state' legitimacy for you?

 

[idb]

Those who used to be capable of distinguishing the innocent from the guilty.

Who is innocent?

For instance, Turkish state caught supporting ISIS, sending them military equipment and buying their oil.

Turkish state governed by a sectarian sunni islamist political party, headed by RECEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN.

This guy got 23 million votes in the last elections.

SO, the million dollar question; are 23 million Turks who supported the Erdogan regime who supported the ISIS terrorist state, innocent or guilty?

Do people bear responsibility for their choices in life, or they can just wash away their hands if their choices end up causing destruction and chaos world wide?

In America, everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

That is the point.

USA has every right to try its muslim population, because there is a crime here. Knowingly voting for a sectarian anti-secular islamist political party supporting a terrorist state is a crime, a crime against HUMANITY.

And people pay for their crimes, in America, not?

Being Muslim is a crime?
You are quite the fascist aren't you?

I am a muslim, if that matters.................................................................................

Not at all...I'm not that bigoted that I don't accept that a Muslim can also be a fascist.

 

[idb]

Those who used to be capable of distinguishing the innocent from the guilty.

Who is innocent?

For instance, Turkish state caught supporting ISIS, sending them military equipment and buying their oil.

Turkish state governed by a sectarian sunni islamist political party, headed by RECEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN.

This guy got 23 million votes in the last elections.

SO, the million dollar question; are 23 million Turks who supported the Erdogan regime who supported the ISIS terrorist state, innocent or guilty?

Do people bear responsibility for their choices in life, or they can just wash away their hands if their choices end up causing destruction and chaos world wide?

In America, everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

That is the point.

USA has every right to try its muslim population, because there is a crime here. Knowingly voting for a sectarian anti-secular islamist political party supporting a terrorist state is a crime, a crime against HUMANITY.

And people pay for their crimes, in America, not?

Being Muslim is a crime?
You are quite the fascist aren't you?

Ohhh, and a SUNNI too.... if that really matters........................................

Not at all.
You seem to want to confess your terrorist tendencies- good for you.
I reject your assumption that all Sunni Muslims believe the same as you.