US fighters ‘captured’ by Russian forces in Ukraine

[Open Bolt]

And if they (DPRs executioners) execute ordinary foreign criminals (mercenaries and gangers) - there will be no problem at all. You see, Ukraine and pro-Ukrainian part of the Western society want to kill them anyway, so, there is no any additional problem from their point of view.

These people are POWs and not criminals. Anyone who murders POWs will answer for it.

 

[zaangalewa]

Are you dumb or what? I don't like you.

You know nothing about me - except a little part of my opinions.

The reason is your boneheaded unreasonable belief in your imaginary western values that I and most Russians wholeheartedly despise.

My values are from the stone age - and if you don't take care you will not survive your arrogance, descendent from the Neanderthalers. Your tyrant, Putins slave Lukashenko (who is not the president of Belarus but a tyrant from, over and against his own people and comparable with the North Korean monster tyrant in the third generation of criminal monster traitors) threatened by the way all metropols of the western world with nuclear attacks. Asides that only to say so is a war crime I hope you personally will be able to calculate your own chances to survive this. It are exactly 0.000...000...000...001%. So if god will let happen this wonder then you will have to ask yourselve why god still waits with your punishment while you live in your self made hell.

 

[AlexanderPK]

With every post it looks less likely you are a Russian living in Russia. No one goes to prison in the US for criticizing the government and no opposition politicians go to prison or are assassinated if they become too popular. No Russians are blocked from US sites, but Russia blocks access to sites that offer views different from Putin's; that's why you have to use a vpn to here, if indeed you do. You do seem to know nothing at all about life in Russia.

You don't have to imprison the no one, just fire him and let no one hire him.

 

[AlexanderPK]

With every post it looks less likely you are a Russian living in Russia.

Who am I then? A paid shill living off bad mouthing America?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Who am I then? A paid shill living off bad mouthing America?

I have no idea who you are and no interest in finding out. The discussion is not about you, but about issues and you seem to know so little about Russia except in the broadest propaganda terms that it is doubtful you actually live there.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You don't have to imprison the no one, just fire him and let no one hire him.

In Russia it is against the law to criticize the govern or to express opinions about the war that differ from Putin's. Such actions can send you to prison for up to 15 years. There are no such laws in the US. Cancel culture is simply an expression of unpopularity that is sometimes applied to public figures or movements and has nothing to do with the government or the law.

Every time an opposition politician gains some popularity in Russia, Putin either throws him in prison or has him assassinated. American politics is a contact sport, but the government does not imprison or murder the opposition.

 

[AlexanderPK]

In Russia it is against the law to criticize the govern or to express opinions about the war that differ from Putin's. Such actions can send you to prison for up to 15 years. There are no such laws in the US. Cancel culture is simply an expression of unpopularity that is sometimes applied to public figures or movements and has nothing to do with the government or the law.

Every time an opposition politician gains some popularity in Russia, Putin either throws him in prison or has him assassinated. American politics is a contact sport, but the government does not imprison or murder the opposition.

Has him assassinated using the Weapons of Mass Destruction. Yeah, that's exactly what he does, to teach a lesson to everyone else. We just love him here in a shill factory.

 

[Silver Cat]

These people are POWs and not criminals. Anyone who murders POWs will answer for it.

The problem is that DPR's court didn't agree with such 'arguments'.

 

[Open Bolt]

The problem is that DPR's court didn't agree with such 'arguments'.

Bank robbers don't agree that it should be against the law to rob banks.

The International Criminal Court has already assumed jurisdiction over war crimes committed during the invasion of Ukraine.

If these clowns choose to murder POWs, it will end badly for them.

 

[Silver Cat]

Bank robbers don't agree that it should be against the law to rob banks.

From some points of view, it's banks robbing people. So, if the bank robbers won (like it was with Mr Stalin) - they become the government and the bank owners became the criminals. It's pretty simple, isn't it?

The International Criminal Court has already assumed jurisdiction over war crimes committed during the invasion of Ukraine.

If these clowns choose to murder POWs, it will end badly for them.

Or, much more likely, it will end badly for the International Criminal Court.

 

[Open Bolt]

Or, much more likely, it will end badly for the International Criminal Court.

No, if these guys murder POWs, an international arrest warrant will be issued for them, and they will spend the rest of their lives being hunted, just like the Nazis were hunted for the rest of their lives.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The problem is that DPR's court didn't agree with such 'arguments'.

The problem is there is no DPR. The DPR is a fiction Russia invented in a feeble attempt to justify its invasion of Ukraine. Russia is liberating the Donbas in the same way it liberated the states of eastern Europe at the end of WWII and then held them prisoner for 45 years. There is no independent judiciary under Russian rule; the courts decide what Putin tells them to decide just as the news outlets report what Putin tells them to report. Under Putin, Russia is travelling back to a more primitive time while the rest of the world is trying to move forward to better times.

 

[Open Bolt]

The problem is there is no DPR. The DPR is a fiction Russia invented in a feeble attempt to justify its invasion of Ukraine.

Unfortunately Russia can say the same thing about the west regarding the creation of Kosovo.

Not exactly NATO's finest moment.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Unfortunately Russia can say the same thing about the west regarding the creation of Kosovo.

Not exactly NATO's finest moment.

Russia says a lot of things, but few people believe them. Kosovo, on the other hand is widely accepted as an independent sovereign nation.

Membership of Kosovo in international organizations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Open Bolt]

Russia says a lot of things, but few people believe them.

I suppose they deserve their lack of credibility. But in this case they have a legitimate complaint.

Kosovo, on the other hand is widely accepted as an independent sovereign nation.

That did not make it OK for NATO to wage a war of aggression against Serbia. Neither did it make it OK for NATO to steal Kosovo from Serbia.

And in doing so, NATO undermined their credibility to complain about Russia invading and stealing territory from other nations.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I suppose they deserve their lack of credibility. But in this case they have a legitimate complaint.



That did not make it OK for NATO to wage a war of aggression against Serbia. Neither did it make it OK for NATO to steal Kosovo from Serbia.

And in doing so, NATO undermined their credibility to complain about Russia invading and stealing territory from other nations.

Russia's false claims about Ukrainian atrocities against the separatists in Donbas was simply a pretext for invading and taking over Ukraine, just as Rusia's false claims about Nazis running Ukraine or US bioweapons labs in Ukraine or NATO trying to take over Ukraine were. There are two kinds of facts in the world, verifiable facts and Russian facts. The entire world witnessed the Serbian atrocities against ethnic Albanians, but only Russian propagandists claim such atrocities were committed by Ukraine against ethnic Russians. Before the Russian invasion, the world's press was free to go anywhere in in Ukraine and report anything they saw, and while the conflict between the Ukrainian government and the separatists fomented by Russian, was reported, only Russian propagandists claimed to have witnessed Ukrainian atrocities against ethnic Russian separatists.

Putin, himself has told us that the purpose of the invasion is not the plethora of lies Russian propagandist are putting out but a desire to restore Russian dominance over eastern Europe. In 2005:

Russian President Vladimir Putin told the nation Monday that the collapse of the Soviet empire “was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century” and had fostered separatist movements inside Russia.

In his annual state of the nation address to parliament and the country’s top political leaders, Putin said the Soviet collapse also was a tragedy for Russians.


“First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,” Putin said. “As for the Russian people, it became a genuine tragedy. Tens of millions of our fellow citizens and countrymen found themselves beyond the fringes of Russian territory.

“The epidemic of collapse has spilled over to Russia itself,” he said, referring to separatist movements such as those in Chechnya.

Putin’s statements were some of his strongest language to date about the Soviet collapse and come a month before the nation celebrates the 60th anniversary of the end of World War II in Europe, a conflict Russians call the “Great Patriotic War.”

Putin: Soviet collapse a 'genuine tragedy'

In his annual state of the nation address on Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin called the collapse of the Soviet empire “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.”

www.nbcnews.com

A few years later Putin invaded Georgia on the basis of false claims.

More recently:

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday compared himself to the country’s first emperor, Peter the Great, in a speech marking the 350th anniversary of the figure’s birth.

Putin made the comments while visiting a multimedia exhibit about the 18th-century leader, who led a conquest of the Baltic region while at war with Sweden. Putin remarked that Peter the Great viewed the land as rightfully Russian, drawing a connection to the current war Russia is waging against Ukraine.


“He was returning it and strengthening it,” Putin said, according to The New York Times. “Well, apparently, it has also fallen to us to return and to strengthen.”

Putin also noted that when Peter founded the city of St. Petersburg, “none of the countries of Europe recognized it as Russian.”

“It’s impossible — do you understand — impossible to build a fence around a country like Russia,” Putin added.

Putin compares self to Peter the Great, says he is taking back Russian lands

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday compared himself to the country’s first emperor, Peter the Great, in a speech marking the 350th anniversary of the figure’s birth. Putin made …

thehill.com

Putin is saying the Donbas is Russian land and no one can stop Russia from taking it, not that Russia is trying to stop alleged atrocities against Russian separatist.

 

[Silver Cat]

No, if these guys murder POWs, an international arrest warrant will be issued for them, and they will spend the rest of their lives being hunted, just like the Nazis were hunted for the rest of their lives.

Or, without making a peace with Russia, EU will collapse in few years.

 

[Silver Cat]

The problem is there is no DPR. The DPR is a fiction Russia invented in a feeble attempt to justify its invasion of Ukraine. Russia is liberating the Donbas in the same way it liberated the states of eastern Europe at the end of WWII and then held them prisoner for 45 years. There is no independent judiciary under Russian rule; the courts decide what Putin tells them to decide just as the news outlets report what Putin tells them to report. Under Putin, Russia is travelling back to a more primitive time while the rest of the world is trying to move forward to better times.

The same thing the Russians can say about Ukraine itself. Ukraine is a fiction invented by Lenin to fight "Great Russian Chauvinism".
And Post-Maidan Kievan regime is just a puppet of the EU and the USA, zombie under total control of the West. Under the rule of post-Maidan Junta all real opposition was eliminated (often - demonstratively murdered).

 

[toomuchtime_]

The same thing the Russians can say about Ukraine itself. Ukraine is a fiction invented by Lenin to fight "Great Russian Chauvinism".
And Post-Maidan Kievan regime is just a puppet of the EU and the USA, zombie under total control of the West. Under the rule of post-Maidan Junta all real opposition was eliminated (often - demonstratively murdered).

Nonsense, Ukraine was recognized by Russia as an independent sovereign state when the USSR collapsed and Russia even signed an agreement with Ukraine to lease its naval base in Crimea. In 1994 Russia, along with the US and UK, and later China, signed an agreement to recognize Ukraine's borders, including Crimea, and to never invade Ukraine unless it was in response to an invasion of Russia by Ukraine in order to persuade Ukraine to give up its nukes.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Or, without making a peace with Russia, EU will collapse in few years.

What else has your Magic Eightball told you?