US Debt Is Now $23 Trillion And Climbing

[Slade3200]

Since when does a Russian Asset like you care about American Debt?

$23 Trillion Spent on DemTard Socialist War on Poverty that made people like Nancy Pelosi Rich.

Abolish The War on Poverty. And the Budget is Balanced.

Get a Job you Dirty Hippy!

Question is, do you care about the debt? If yes, then what are your thoughts on the current situation?

I care about The Debt Enough to Abolish Welfare, Food Stamps, Slash Government Jobs by 50% and cut their salaries and benefits by 20%.

I'd have no problem giving you and your friends their walking paper.

Ok but aside from the troll reaction and fantasy policy how do you feel about the current rate of growth that’s feeding the debt? All good? Or do you have issues?

The current rate of growth is 1.9%.

and unemployment is at all time lows, the stock market is at record highs, and people are working instead of collecting welfare. GDP growth cannot continue to surge forever, there a limits even in a booming economy.

But Trump said it was going to be 4-5%. Right?!

 

[Mac1958]

Question is, do you care about the debt? If yes, then what are your thoughts on the current situation?

I care about The Debt Enough to Abolish Welfare, Food Stamps, Slash Government Jobs by 50% and cut their salaries and benefits by 20%.

I'd have no problem giving you and your friends their walking paper.

Ok but aside from the troll reaction and fantasy policy how do you feel about the current rate of growth that’s feeding the debt? All good? Or do you have issues?

The current rate of growth is 1.9%.

and unemployment is at all time lows, the stock market is at record highs, and people are working instead of collecting welfare. GDP growth cannot continue to surge forever, there a limits even in a booming economy.

But Trump said it was good to be 4-5%. Right?!

He was just kidding about that.
.

 

[Slade3200]

I care about The Debt Enough to Abolish Welfare, Food Stamps, Slash Government Jobs by 50% and cut their salaries and benefits by 20%.

I'd have no problem giving you and your friends their walking paper.

Ok but aside from the troll reaction and fantasy policy how do you feel about the current rate of growth that’s feeding the debt? All good? Or do you have issues?

The current rate of growth is 1.9%.

and unemployment is at all time lows, the stock market is at record highs, and people are working instead of collecting welfare. GDP growth cannot continue to surge forever, there a limits even in a booming economy.

But Trump said it was good to be 4-5%. Right?!

He was just kidding about that.
.

funny guy!

 

[Desperado]

Seems we have a spending problem. Lets start by bringing our troops home, and stop all foreign and military aid. Make it a law that we are not allowed to borrow money only to give it out again to foreign countries

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I don't like that either. But why were you silent when obama added 9 trillion to the debt?

I was not silent during the Obama years, I have not been silent about the debt since Reagan years.

I do not let who is sitting in the White House change my values. you might want to try it.

next question: when will the dems in the house propose a balanced budget?

Never, the Dems are the party that is honest about their fiscal views.

budgets start in the house, do the dems give a shit about deficits and debt?

Actually, they start with the POTUS who submits his request and the House goes from there. The last request from Trump was the largest in the history of our country, by almost a trillion dollars.

Neither sides gives a shit about the debt because their voters do not hold them accountable, so why would they?

 

[Redfish]

Question is, do you care about the debt? If yes, then what are your thoughts on the current situation?

I care about The Debt Enough to Abolish Welfare, Food Stamps, Slash Government Jobs by 50% and cut their salaries and benefits by 20%.

I'd have no problem giving you and your friends their walking paper.

Ok but aside from the troll reaction and fantasy policy how do you feel about the current rate of growth that’s feeding the debt? All good? Or do you have issues?

The current rate of growth is 1.9%.

and unemployment is at all time lows, the stock market is at record highs, and people are working instead of collecting welfare. GDP growth cannot continue to surge forever, there a limits even in a booming economy.

But Trump said it was going to be 4-5%. Right?!

and hillary said she landed under sniper fire and never had any classified data on her private server.

Trump may hit 4-5% , but lets be realistic about political rhetoric, its all BS.

 

[rightwinger]

That does not explain Trump DOUBLING the deficit.

As I said, the deficit was DECREASING. Trump has skyrocketed it.

Trump has skyrocketed it

So did obama and so will the next democrat in the white house

Nope. That's a lie.

Obama steadily decreased the deficit. See for yourself: Is the US Budget Deficit Really That Bad?

The GOP inherited a $438 billion deficit when they took the House and Senate back. They and Deficit Donald have run it back up to a trillion dollars.

You know why they did that? I do.

It’s hard to believe any can be so full of shit. You act like Dems are great stewards of fiscal responsibility, and Repubs spend money like drunk sailors.

When Dems had the White House and Congress they exploded the deficit every year. When Republicans retook Congress the deficit was slashed down to less than half a trillion each year. You telling us the Republican Congress was trying to continue to spend $1.5 trillion and the Hussein was vetoing those and demanding cuts?

Dems have no record at all of being fiscally responsible. The GOP at least has a half assed record of being semi-responsible.

Is the exploding deficit something Dem candidates are even talking about? No, it’s not. Amazingly it could be the one issue they could “win” on, yet all of them are actually boasting about spending $55 trillion on Medicare for Illegals. This is the absurdity of your argument.

The Dems cut the deficit from over a trillion to $430 billion
Trump has raised it to back over $1 trillion. This was done in a strong economy
You are supposed to pay off debt in a strong economy, that is responsible governing

most of that was to undo the mess that obama left with the military unable to fly its planes or sail its ships.

Are you able to acknowledge that obama added 9 trillion to the debt? over a trillion a year for 8 years?

You do realize that Obama’s military was stronger than the next eight nations combined?
Any cuts to the military were due to sequestration which did not spare the military from a 10 percent cut

I agree Obama added 9 trillion to the debt while trying to recover from the worst recession in 75 years and fighting two wars with Bush tax cuts impacting revenue

What I cant understand is why Trump is running trillion dollar deficits in a strong economy. Wouldn’t you agree that is the time you should be paying down debt?

 

[Redfish]

I don't like that either. But why were you silent when obama added 9 trillion to the debt?

I was not silent during the Obama years, I have not been silent about the debt since Reagan years.

I do not let who is sitting in the White House change my values. you might want to try it.

next question: when will the dems in the house propose a balanced budget?

Never, the Dems are the party that is honest about their fiscal views.

budgets start in the house, do the dems give a shit about deficits and debt?

Actually, they start with the POTUS who submits his request and the House goes from there. The last request from Trump was the largest in the history of our country, by almost a trillion dollars.

Neither sides gives a shit about the debt because their voters do not hold them accountable, so why would they?

I think we found an area of agreement. WOW!

so why don't we hold them accountable? could it be that we have all become leeches wanting more FREE shit from the government?

 

[Redfish]

Trump has skyrocketed it

So did obama and so will the next democrat in the white house

Nope. That's a lie.

Obama steadily decreased the deficit. See for yourself: Is the US Budget Deficit Really That Bad?

The GOP inherited a $438 billion deficit when they took the House and Senate back. They and Deficit Donald have run it back up to a trillion dollars.

You know why they did that? I do.

It’s hard to believe any can be so full of shit. You act like Dems are great stewards of fiscal responsibility, and Repubs spend money like drunk sailors.

When Dems had the White House and Congress they exploded the deficit every year. When Republicans retook Congress the deficit was slashed down to less than half a trillion each year. You telling us the Republican Congress was trying to continue to spend $1.5 trillion and the Hussein was vetoing those and demanding cuts?

Dems have no record at all of being fiscally responsible. The GOP at least has a half assed record of being semi-responsible.

Is the exploding deficit something Dem candidates are even talking about? No, it’s not. Amazingly it could be the one issue they could “win” on, yet all of them are actually boasting about spending $55 trillion on Medicare for Illegals. This is the absurdity of your argument.

The Dems cut the deficit from over a trillion to $430 billion
Trump has raised it to back over $1 trillion. This was done in a strong economy
You are supposed to pay off debt in a strong economy, that is responsible governing

most of that was to undo the mess that obama left with the military unable to fly its planes or sail its ships.

Are you able to acknowledge that obama added 9 trillion to the debt? over a trillion a year for 8 years?

You do realize that Obama’s military was stronger than the next eight nations combined?
Any cuts to the military were due to sequestration which did not spare the military from a 10 percent cut

I agree Obama added 9 trillion to the debt while trying to recover from the worst recession in 75 years and fighting two wars with Bush tax cuts impacting revenue

What I cant understand is why Trump is running trillion dollar deficits in a strong economy. Wouldn’t you agree that is the time you should be paying down debt?

We would all like to see the debt reduced. But you are wrong about a couple of things. Obama cut military spending more than required by the sequester, Obama continued the Bush tax cuts and they became the obama tax cuts. Under Obama our military was the weakest it had been since WW2, we were becoming vulnerable. Next, there was no major recession in 08, it was a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy, smart investors made a lot of money in 08-09.

 

[Redfish]

I care about The Debt Enough to Abolish Welfare, Food Stamps, Slash Government Jobs by 50% and cut their salaries and benefits by 20%.

I'd have no problem giving you and your friends their walking paper.

Ok but aside from the troll reaction and fantasy policy how do you feel about the current rate of growth that’s feeding the debt? All good? Or do you have issues?

The current rate of growth is 1.9%.

and unemployment is at all time lows, the stock market is at record highs, and people are working instead of collecting welfare. GDP growth cannot continue to surge forever, there a limits even in a booming economy.

But Trump said it was good to be 4-5%. Right?!

He was just kidding about that.
.

yeah, like Warren and Sanders are kidding about medicare for all with no middle class tax increases.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I think we found an area of agreement. WOW!

so why don't we hold them accountable? could it be that we have all become leeches wanting more FREE shit from the government?

that is part of it.

the other part is we as a nation have been programmed to view the "other side" as evil and the enemy and thus we have to vote for our side out of self preservation. I say the division in this country is not an accident, but a planned thing because a divided populous is far easier to control.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nope. That's a lie.

Obama steadily decreased the deficit. See for yourself: Is the US Budget Deficit Really That Bad?

The GOP inherited a $438 billion deficit when they took the House and Senate back. They and Deficit Donald have run it back up to a trillion dollars.

You know why they did that? I do.

It’s hard to believe any can be so full of shit. You act like Dems are great stewards of fiscal responsibility, and Repubs spend money like drunk sailors.

When Dems had the White House and Congress they exploded the deficit every year. When Republicans retook Congress the deficit was slashed down to less than half a trillion each year. You telling us the Republican Congress was trying to continue to spend $1.5 trillion and the Hussein was vetoing those and demanding cuts?

Dems have no record at all of being fiscally responsible. The GOP at least has a half assed record of being semi-responsible.

Is the exploding deficit something Dem candidates are even talking about? No, it’s not. Amazingly it could be the one issue they could “win” on, yet all of them are actually boasting about spending $55 trillion on Medicare for Illegals. This is the absurdity of your argument.

The Dems cut the deficit from over a trillion to $430 billion
Trump has raised it to back over $1 trillion. This was done in a strong economy
You are supposed to pay off debt in a strong economy, that is responsible governing

most of that was to undo the mess that obama left with the military unable to fly its planes or sail its ships.

Are you able to acknowledge that obama added 9 trillion to the debt? over a trillion a year for 8 years?

You do realize that Obama’s military was stronger than the next eight nations combined?
Any cuts to the military were due to sequestration which did not spare the military from a 10 percent cut

I agree Obama added 9 trillion to the debt while trying to recover from the worst recession in 75 years and fighting two wars with Bush tax cuts impacting revenue

What I cant understand is why Trump is running trillion dollar deficits in a strong economy. Wouldn’t you agree that is the time you should be paying down debt?

We would all like to see the debt reduced. But you are wrong about a couple of things. Obama cut military spending more than required by the sequester, Obama continued the Bush tax cuts and they became the obama tax cuts. Under Obama our military was the weakest it had been since WW2, we were becoming vulnerable. Next, there was no major recession in 08, it was a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy, smart investors made a lot of money in 08-09.

Obama's slashing of the military is mostly a myth. Far more was spent on the military under Obama than under Bush II, even though the heart of both wars were under Bush II.

 

[Redfish]

I think we found an area of agreement. WOW!

so why don't we hold them accountable? could it be that we have all become leeches wanting more FREE shit from the government?

that is part of it.

the other part is we as a nation have been programmed to view the "other side" as evil and the enemy and thus we have to vote for our side out of self preservation. I say the division in this country is not an accident, but a planned thing because a divided populous is far easier to control.

I agree, now, when did the division start? Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush 41 and 43, Obama, Washington, Lincoln?

We have always had political differences, but the hate and anger we see and hear today is something relatively new.

I think you have it right, its the DC establishment that wants us screaming at each other so they can stay in power and control. Those are the people who are fighting Trump the hardest, because he isn't one of them and he is exposing their corruption----and yes, the media is part of it.

 

[Redfish]

It’s hard to believe any can be so full of shit. You act like Dems are great stewards of fiscal responsibility, and Repubs spend money like drunk sailors.

When Dems had the White House and Congress they exploded the deficit every year. When Republicans retook Congress the deficit was slashed down to less than half a trillion each year. You telling us the Republican Congress was trying to continue to spend $1.5 trillion and the Hussein was vetoing those and demanding cuts?

Dems have no record at all of being fiscally responsible. The GOP at least has a half assed record of being semi-responsible.

Is the exploding deficit something Dem candidates are even talking about? No, it’s not. Amazingly it could be the one issue they could “win” on, yet all of them are actually boasting about spending $55 trillion on Medicare for Illegals. This is the absurdity of your argument.

The Dems cut the deficit from over a trillion to $430 billion
Trump has raised it to back over $1 trillion. This was done in a strong economy
You are supposed to pay off debt in a strong economy, that is responsible governing

most of that was to undo the mess that obama left with the military unable to fly its planes or sail its ships.

Are you able to acknowledge that obama added 9 trillion to the debt? over a trillion a year for 8 years?

You do realize that Obama’s military was stronger than the next eight nations combined?
Any cuts to the military were due to sequestration which did not spare the military from a 10 percent cut

I agree Obama added 9 trillion to the debt while trying to recover from the worst recession in 75 years and fighting two wars with Bush tax cuts impacting revenue

What I cant understand is why Trump is running trillion dollar deficits in a strong economy. Wouldn’t you agree that is the time you should be paying down debt?

We would all like to see the debt reduced. But you are wrong about a couple of things. Obama cut military spending more than required by the sequester, Obama continued the Bush tax cuts and they became the obama tax cuts. Under Obama our military was the weakest it had been since WW2, we were becoming vulnerable. Next, there was no major recession in 08, it was a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy, smart investors made a lot of money in 08-09.

Obama's slashing of the military is mostly a myth. Far more was spent on the military under Obama than under Bush II, even though the heart of both wars were under Bush II.

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can you take inflation out of that chart?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I think we found an area of agreement. WOW!

so why don't we hold them accountable? could it be that we have all become leeches wanting more FREE shit from the government?

that is part of it.

the other part is we as a nation have been programmed to view the "other side" as evil and the enemy and thus we have to vote for our side out of self preservation. I say the division in this country is not an accident, but a planned thing because a divided populous is far easier to control.

I agree, now, when did the division start? Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush 41 and 43, Obama, Washington, Lincoln?

We have always had political differences, but the hate and anger we see and hear today is something relatively new.

I think you have it right, its the DC establishment that wants us screaming at each other so they can stay in power and control. Those are the people who are fighting Trump the hardest, because he isn't one of them and he is exposing their corruption----and yes, the media is part of it.

The division we see today sort of started with Clinton but went into overdrive with Bush II. He pushed the "with us or against us" theme harder than anyone had. Not that I blame him per say as he was just a puppet doing as he was told. It interested with Obama and now Trump has taken it to whole new levels.

The more we fight ourselves, the more the DC establishment gets away with...Trump is not making that better, he is just dividing us more.

 

[Redfish]

I think we found an area of agreement. WOW!

so why don't we hold them accountable? could it be that we have all become leeches wanting more FREE shit from the government?

that is part of it.

the other part is we as a nation have been programmed to view the "other side" as evil and the enemy and thus we have to vote for our side out of self preservation. I say the division in this country is not an accident, but a planned thing because a divided populous is far easier to control.

I agree, now, when did the division start? Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush 41 and 43, Obama, Washington, Lincoln?

We have always had political differences, but the hate and anger we see and hear today is something relatively new.

I think you have it right, its the DC establishment that wants us screaming at each other so they can stay in power and control. Those are the people who are fighting Trump the hardest, because he isn't one of them and he is exposing their corruption----and yes, the media is part of it.

The division we see today sort of started with Clinton but went into overdrive with Bush II. He pushed the "with us or against us" theme harder than anyone had. Not that I blame him per say as he was just a puppet doing as he was told. It interested with Obama and now Trump has taken it to whole new levels.

The more we fight ourselves, the more the DC establishment gets away with...Trump is not making that better, he is just dividing us more.

if you consider the DC establishment vs the American people a negative divide then Trump is responsible, but I see that as a positive.


and I think that the clintons and obama really put us where we are today, calling americans deplorables etc

 

[Harpy Eagle]

if you consider the DC establishment vs the American people a negative divide then Trump is responsible, but I see that as a positive.

That is not the divide that is getting larger, the divide that Trump is making larger is the divide between the people, and the more he does that the stronger the
DC establishment becomes.

and I think that the clintons and obama really put us where we are today, calling americans deplorables etc

Of course you do, it is not in you to blame your own chosen party, they are as always blameless...you are part of the problem and you do not even realize it.

 

[rightwinger]

Nope. That's a lie.

Obama steadily decreased the deficit. See for yourself: Is the US Budget Deficit Really That Bad?

The GOP inherited a $438 billion deficit when they took the House and Senate back. They and Deficit Donald have run it back up to a trillion dollars.

You know why they did that? I do.

It’s hard to believe any can be so full of shit. You act like Dems are great stewards of fiscal responsibility, and Repubs spend money like drunk sailors.

When Dems had the White House and Congress they exploded the deficit every year. When Republicans retook Congress the deficit was slashed down to less than half a trillion each year. You telling us the Republican Congress was trying to continue to spend $1.5 trillion and the Hussein was vetoing those and demanding cuts?

Dems have no record at all of being fiscally responsible. The GOP at least has a half assed record of being semi-responsible.

Is the exploding deficit something Dem candidates are even talking about? No, it’s not. Amazingly it could be the one issue they could “win” on, yet all of them are actually boasting about spending $55 trillion on Medicare for Illegals. This is the absurdity of your argument.

The Dems cut the deficit from over a trillion to $430 billion
Trump has raised it to back over $1 trillion. This was done in a strong economy
You are supposed to pay off debt in a strong economy, that is responsible governing

most of that was to undo the mess that obama left with the military unable to fly its planes or sail its ships.

Are you able to acknowledge that obama added 9 trillion to the debt? over a trillion a year for 8 years?

You do realize that Obama’s military was stronger than the next eight nations combined?
Any cuts to the military were due to sequestration which did not spare the military from a 10 percent cut

I agree Obama added 9 trillion to the debt while trying to recover from the worst recession in 75 years and fighting two wars with Bush tax cuts impacting revenue

What I cant understand is why Trump is running trillion dollar deficits in a strong economy. Wouldn’t you agree that is the time you should be paying down debt?

We would all like to see the debt reduced. But you are wrong about a couple of things. Obama cut military spending more than required by the sequester, Obama continued the Bush tax cuts and they became the obama tax cuts. Under Obama our military was the weakest it had been since WW2, we were becoming vulnerable. Next, there was no major recession in 08, it was a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy, smart investors made a lot of money in 08-09.

Stock market losing half its value, employers laying off 800,000 a month, banks and auto companies on the verge of collapse and five quarters of negative GDP is not a recession?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It’s hard to believe any can be so full of shit. You act like Dems are great stewards of fiscal responsibility, and Repubs spend money like drunk sailors.

When Dems had the White House and Congress they exploded the deficit every year. When Republicans retook Congress the deficit was slashed down to less than half a trillion each year. You telling us the Republican Congress was trying to continue to spend $1.5 trillion and the Hussein was vetoing those and demanding cuts?

Dems have no record at all of being fiscally responsible. The GOP at least has a half assed record of being semi-responsible.

Is the exploding deficit something Dem candidates are even talking about? No, it’s not. Amazingly it could be the one issue they could “win” on, yet all of them are actually boasting about spending $55 trillion on Medicare for Illegals. This is the absurdity of your argument.

The Dems cut the deficit from over a trillion to $430 billion
Trump has raised it to back over $1 trillion. This was done in a strong economy
You are supposed to pay off debt in a strong economy, that is responsible governing

most of that was to undo the mess that obama left with the military unable to fly its planes or sail its ships.

Are you able to acknowledge that obama added 9 trillion to the debt? over a trillion a year for 8 years?

You do realize that Obama’s military was stronger than the next eight nations combined?
Any cuts to the military were due to sequestration which did not spare the military from a 10 percent cut

I agree Obama added 9 trillion to the debt while trying to recover from the worst recession in 75 years and fighting two wars with Bush tax cuts impacting revenue

What I cant understand is why Trump is running trillion dollar deficits in a strong economy. Wouldn’t you agree that is the time you should be paying down debt?

We would all like to see the debt reduced. But you are wrong about a couple of things. Obama cut military spending more than required by the sequester, Obama continued the Bush tax cuts and they became the obama tax cuts. Under Obama our military was the weakest it had been since WW2, we were becoming vulnerable. Next, there was no major recession in 08, it was a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy, smart investors made a lot of money in 08-09.

Stock market losing half its value, employers laying off 800,000 a month, banks and auto companies on the verge of collapse and five quarters of negative GDP is not a recession?

Redfish is another one of those folks that makes up their own meanings to words so that they are never wrong.

 

[rightwinger]

I think we found an area of agreement. WOW!

so why don't we hold them accountable? could it be that we have all become leeches wanting more FREE shit from the government?

that is part of it.

the other part is we as a nation have been programmed to view the "other side" as evil and the enemy and thus we have to vote for our side out of self preservation. I say the division in this country is not an accident, but a planned thing because a divided populous is far easier to control.

I agree, now, when did the division start? Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush 41 and 43, Obama, Washington, Lincoln?

We have always had political differences, but the hate and anger we see and hear today is something relatively new.

I think you have it right, its the DC establishment that wants us screaming at each other so they can stay in power and control. Those are the people who are fighting Trump the hardest, because he isn't one of them and he is exposing their corruption----and yes, the media is part of it.

The division we see today sort of started with Clinton but went into overdrive with Bush II. He pushed the "with us or against us" theme harder than anyone had. Not that I blame him per say as he was just a puppet doing as he was told. It interested with Obama and now Trump has taken it to whole new levels.

The more we fight ourselves, the more the DC establishment gets away with...Trump is not making that better, he is just dividing us more.

Up through Bush 43, we had a Congress that was still bipartisan. Bush received support from both parties

Once Obama became President, Bipartisanship ended completely. There was no compromise and no middle ground. Boehner and McConnell led the charge

I don’t see any way of going back. Too many bridges have been burnt