Two Thumbs
Platinum Member
People saying they dont trust the numbers should not trust the numbers, ever, under any President, thus we have no benchmark to measure what's "good" and what's "bad" so, stop circle jerking with mundane nothingness.
go here if you need numbers
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
They got everything.
Official UE = 13 Million
Actual UE = 23.2 Million
or
Over 16% UE. That's a lot of people and nothing to cheer about.
To you and full-auto.....
The formula has been stagnant - it's the same statistics used to calculate it under each President.
Two Thumbs: what I mean is, when Bush was looking sharp with his 4.-whatever % unemployment, there was that actual "real" UE number then, too, which was higher. There always is. Difference being, if a partisan's team is in office they use official, and the opposing team shouts "but but but real."
That's what I mean by the whole thing being a circle jerk. If you're going to cite the "real" number, then go ahead and downgrade Bush's good early UE numbers to "meh."
I've known the numbers were shady for a while.
that's why I luuuuv that link. You can go back in time [sorta] and make comparisons and get the actual info.

agreed, except the "idiots" part.