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Understanding Why the Deep State Is Terrified of Trump’s Documents

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This is a piece by Larry Johnson detailing what are probably the true motives behind the Mar-a-Lago political raid. He is basing this mostly on a series of articles from Sundance at the Conservative Treehouse.
Sundance does excellent investigations & is much more informed than any in the MSM, despite what all the proglodytes will say.

DT had numerous docs proving the intelligence communities in the US & Great Britain were illegally targeting himself via Crossfire Hurricane.
They were also after other Repub primary nominees & even Bernie Sanders just to hedge their bets & have an angle of attack no matter what happened in the primaries.
This is in addition to all the Americans they target now by using the Patriot Act against us to spy domestically.
The FBI, CIA, DOD & DOJ were all compromised & subverted by Barry in his 8 years in office & they were turned against DT before he even became President.
Mueller, Comey, Brennan, et al were all actively working together to try to prevent an America First president from revealing what a bunch of lying duplicitous pit of vipers our Fed agencies had become as they targeted Americans & foreigners alike.

They were doing this in conjunction with private entities such as HRC & her campaign, Fusion GPS, Perkins Coie law, the DNC & all the usual players like Marc Elias & Jake "The Lying Foot Soldier" Sullivan.
DT has an ongoing lawsuit against these entities in the courts now.

The whole Russia collusion narrative was orchestrated by having an FBI informant close to DT propose a Trump Tower license in Moscow.

Here is another example, we also know that Felix Sater–a longtime business associate of Donald Trump and an FBI informant since December 1998 (he was signed up by Andrew Weismann)–initiated the proposal to do a Trump Tower in Moscow. Don’t take my word for it, that’s what Robert Mueller reported:

In the late summer of 2015, the Trump Organization received a new inquiry about pursuing a Trump Tower project in Moscow. In approximately September 2015, Felix Sater . . . contacted Cohen (i.e., Michael Cohen) on behalf of I.C. Expert Investment Company (I.C. Expert), a Russian real-estate development corporation controlled by Andrei Vladimirovich Rozov. Sater had known Rozov since approximately 2007 and, in 2014, had served as an agent on behalf of Rozov during Rozov’s purchase of a building in New York City. Sater later contacted Rozov and proposed that I.C. Expert pursue a Trump Tower Moscow project in which I.C. Expert would license the name and brand from the Trump Organization but construct the building on its own. Sater worked on the deal with Rozov and another employee of I.C. Expert. (see page 69 of the Mueller Report).
Sater’s communication with Rozov were intercepted by western intelligence agencies–GCHQ and NSA. I do not know which agency put it into an intel report, but it was put into the system. The Sater FD-1023 will tell us whether or not Sater did this at the direction of the FBI or acted on his own initiative. The key point is that the “bait” to do something with the Russians came from a registered FBI informant.


In addition, we would have Admiral Rogers writing a mandatory oversight notification to the FISA court detailing what happened. That’s a big and comprehensive classified record, likely contained in the documents in Mar-a-Lago… and then the goldmine, the fully unredacted 99-page FISA court opinion detailing the substance of the NSA compromise by FBI officials and contractors, including the names, frequency and dates of the illegal surveillance. That is a major classified document the Deepest Deep State would want to keep hidden.

These are the types of documents within what former ODNI John Ratcliffe called “thousands of pages that were declassified by President Trump,” and given to both John Durham and Main Justice with an expectation of public release when the Durham special counsel probe concluded.

In short, President Trump declassified documents that show how the institutions within the U.S. government targeted him. However, the institutions that illegally targeted President Trump are the same institutions who control the specific evidence of their unlawful targeting.

These examples of evidence held by President Donald Trump reveals the background of how the DC surveillance state exists. THAT was/is the national security threat behind the DOJ-NSD search warrant and affidavit.



Say this is all true (not a given but very much more likely than idiotic BS like nuke codes & giving national secrets to the Russians), will the progressives change their minds & realize how dangerous this is to a free society when a govt police state is attempting a coup or is it all acceptable as long as they never see another mean tweet?
I think some will finally have their lefty delusions shattered while the rest won't care because "the ends justify the means" is their main conviction & totalitarian control is what the collectivism of the left is really all about.
 

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Crossfire Hurricane was mentioned early on as a reason for the raid....I believe it has legs.
 

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This is a piece by Larry Johnson detailing what are probably the true motives behind the Mar-a-Lago political raid. He is basing this mostly on a series of articles from Sundance at the Conservative Treehouse.
Sundance does excellent investigations & is much more informed than any in the MSM, despite what all the proglodytes will say.

DT had numerous docs proving the intelligence communities in the US & Great Britain were illegally targeting himself via Crossfire Hurricane.
They were also after other Repub primary nominees & even Bernie Sanders just to hedge their bets & have an angle of attack no matter what happened in the primaries.
This is in addition to all the Americans they target now by using the Patriot Act against us to spy domestically.
The FBI, CIA, DOD & DOJ were all compromised & subverted by Barry in his 8 years in office & they were turned against DT before he even became President.
Mueller, Comey, Brennan, et al were all actively working together to try to prevent an America First president from revealing what a bunch of lying duplicitous pit of vipers our Fed agencies had become as they targeted Americans & foreigners alike.

They were doing this in conjunction with private entities such as HRC & her campaign, Fusion GPS, Perkins Coie law, the DNC & all the usual players like Marc Elias & Jake "The Lying Foot Soldier" Sullivan.
DT has an ongoing lawsuit against these entities in the courts now.

The whole Russia collusion narrative was orchestrated by having an FBI informant close to DT propose a Trump Tower license in Moscow.

Here is another example, we also know that Felix Sater–a longtime business associate of Donald Trump and an FBI informant since December 1998 (he was signed up by Andrew Weismann)–initiated the proposal to do a Trump Tower in Moscow. Don’t take my word for it, that’s what Robert Mueller reported:


Sater’s communication with Rozov were intercepted by western intelligence agencies–GCHQ and NSA. I do not know which agency put it into an intel report, but it was put into the system. The Sater FD-1023 will tell us whether or not Sater did this at the direction of the FBI or acted on his own initiative. The key point is that the “bait” to do something with the Russians came from a registered FBI informant.



In addition, we would have Admiral Rogers writing a mandatory oversight notification to the FISA court detailing what happened. That’s a big and comprehensive classified record, likely contained in the documents in Mar-a-Lago… and then the goldmine, the fully unredacted 99-page FISA court opinion detailing the substance of the NSA compromise by FBI officials and contractors, including the names, frequency and dates of the illegal surveillance. That is a major classified document the Deepest Deep State would want to keep hidden.

These are the types of documents within what former ODNI John Ratcliffe called “thousands of pages that were declassified by President Trump,” and given to both John Durham and Main Justice with an expectation of public release when the Durham special counsel probe concluded.

In short, President Trump declassified documents that show how the institutions within the U.S. government targeted him. However, the institutions that illegally targeted President Trump are the same institutions who control the specific evidence of their unlawful targeting.

These examples of evidence held by President Donald Trump reveals the background of how the DC surveillance state exists. THAT was/is the national security threat behind the DOJ-NSD search warrant and affidavit.



Say this is all true (not a given but very much more likely than idiotic BS like nuke codes & giving national secrets to the Russians), will the progressives change their minds & realize how dangerous this is to a free society when a govt police state is attempting a coup or is it all acceptable as long as they never see another mean tweet?
I think some will finally have their lefty delusions shattered while the rest won't care because "the ends justify the means" is their main conviction & totalitarian control is what the collectivism of the left is really all about.
If the Deep State is terrified of the documents, why was Trump hiding them? Seems more likely that Trump’s the one that’s terrified.
 

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This is a piece by Larry Johnson detailing what are probably the true motives behind the Mar-a-Lago political raid. He is basing this mostly on a series of articles from Sundance at the Conservative Treehouse.
Sundance does excellent investigations & is much more informed than any in the MSM, despite what all the proglodytes will say.

DT had numerous docs proving the intelligence communities in the US & Great Britain were illegally targeting himself via Crossfire Hurricane.
They were also after other Repub primary nominees & even Bernie Sanders just to hedge their bets & have an angle of attack no matter what happened in the primaries.
This is in addition to all the Americans they target now by using the Patriot Act against us to spy domestically.
The FBI, CIA, DOD & DOJ were all compromised & subverted by Barry in his 8 years in office & they were turned against DT before he even became President.
Mueller, Comey, Brennan, et al were all actively working together to try to prevent an America First president from revealing what a bunch of lying duplicitous pit of vipers our Fed agencies had become as they targeted Americans & foreigners alike.

They were doing this in conjunction with private entities such as HRC & her campaign, Fusion GPS, Perkins Coie law, the DNC & all the usual players like Marc Elias & Jake "The Lying Foot Soldier" Sullivan.
DT has an ongoing lawsuit against these entities in the courts now.

The whole Russia collusion narrative was orchestrated by having an FBI informant close to DT propose a Trump Tower license in Moscow.

Here is another example, we also know that Felix Sater–a longtime business associate of Donald Trump and an FBI informant since December 1998 (he was signed up by Andrew Weismann)–initiated the proposal to do a Trump Tower in Moscow. Don’t take my word for it, that’s what Robert Mueller reported:


Sater’s communication with Rozov were intercepted by western intelligence agencies–GCHQ and NSA. I do not know which agency put it into an intel report, but it was put into the system. The Sater FD-1023 will tell us whether or not Sater did this at the direction of the FBI or acted on his own initiative. The key point is that the “bait” to do something with the Russians came from a registered FBI informant.


In addition, we would have Admiral Rogers writing a mandatory oversight notification to the FISA court detailing what happened. That’s a big and comprehensive classified record, likely contained in the documents in Mar-a-Lago… and then the goldmine, the fully unredacted 99-page FISA court opinion detailing the substance of the NSA compromise by FBI officials and contractors, including the names, frequency and dates of the illegal surveillance. That is a major classified document the Deepest Deep State would want to keep hidden.

These are the types of documents within what former ODNI John Ratcliffe called “thousands of pages that were declassified by President Trump,” and given to both John Durham and Main Justice with an expectation of public release when the Durham special counsel probe concluded.

In short, President Trump declassified documents that show how the institutions within the U.S. government targeted him. However, the institutions that illegally targeted President Trump are the same institutions who control the specific evidence of their unlawful targeting.

These examples of evidence held by President Donald Trump reveals the background of how the DC surveillance state exists. THAT was/is the national security threat behind the DOJ-NSD search warrant and affidavit.



Say this is all true (not a given but very much more likely than idiotic BS like nuke codes & giving national secrets to the Russians), will the progressives change their minds & realize how dangerous this is to a free society when a govt police state is attempting a coup or is it all acceptable as long as they never see another mean tweet?
I think some will finally have their lefty delusions shattered while the rest won't care because "the ends justify the means" is their main conviction & totalitarian control is what the collectivism of the left is really all about.

Your author is speculating and he's from that crackpot site conservative treehouse.
 

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This is a piece by Larry Johnson detailing what are probably the true motives behind the Mar-a-Lago political raid. He is basing this mostly on a series of articles from Sundance at the Conservative Treehouse.
Sundance does excellent investigations & is much more informed than any in the MSM, despite what all the proglodytes will say.

DT had numerous docs proving the intelligence communities in the US & Great Britain were illegally targeting himself via Crossfire Hurricane.
They were also after other Repub primary nominees & even Bernie Sanders just to hedge their bets & have an angle of attack no matter what happened in the primaries.
This is in addition to all the Americans they target now by using the Patriot Act against us to spy domestically.
The FBI, CIA, DOD & DOJ were all compromised & subverted by Barry in his 8 years in office & they were turned against DT before he even became President.
Mueller, Comey, Brennan, et al were all actively working together to try to prevent an America First president from revealing what a bunch of lying duplicitous pit of vipers our Fed agencies had become as they targeted Americans & foreigners alike.

They were doing this in conjunction with private entities such as HRC & her campaign, Fusion GPS, Perkins Coie law, the DNC & all the usual players like Marc Elias & Jake "The Lying Foot Soldier" Sullivan.
DT has an ongoing lawsuit against these entities in the courts now.

The whole Russia collusion narrative was orchestrated by having an FBI informant close to DT propose a Trump Tower license in Moscow.

Here is another example, we also know that Felix Sater–a longtime business associate of Donald Trump and an FBI informant since December 1998 (he was signed up by Andrew Weismann)–initiated the proposal to do a Trump Tower in Moscow. Don’t take my word for it, that’s what Robert Mueller reported:


Sater’s communication with Rozov were intercepted by western intelligence agencies–GCHQ and NSA. I do not know which agency put it into an intel report, but it was put into the system. The Sater FD-1023 will tell us whether or not Sater did this at the direction of the FBI or acted on his own initiative. The key point is that the “bait” to do something with the Russians came from a registered FBI informant.



In addition, we would have Admiral Rogers writing a mandatory oversight notification to the FISA court detailing what happened. That’s a big and comprehensive classified record, likely contained in the documents in Mar-a-Lago… and then the goldmine, the fully unredacted 99-page FISA court opinion detailing the substance of the NSA compromise by FBI officials and contractors, including the names, frequency and dates of the illegal surveillance. That is a major classified document the Deepest Deep State would want to keep hidden.

These are the types of documents within what former ODNI John Ratcliffe called “thousands of pages that were declassified by President Trump,” and given to both John Durham and Main Justice with an expectation of public release when the Durham special counsel probe concluded.

In short, President Trump declassified documents that show how the institutions within the U.S. government targeted him. However, the institutions that illegally targeted President Trump are the same institutions who control the specific evidence of their unlawful targeting.

These examples of evidence held by President Donald Trump reveals the background of how the DC surveillance state exists. THAT was/is the national security threat behind the DOJ-NSD search warrant and affidavit.



Say this is all true (not a given but very much more likely than idiotic BS like nuke codes & giving national secrets to the Russians), will the progressives change their minds & realize how dangerous this is to a free society when a govt police state is attempting a coup or is it all acceptable as long as they never see another mean tweet?
I think some will finally have their lefty delusions shattered while the rest won't care because "the ends justify the means" is their main conviction & totalitarian control is what the collectivism of the left is really all about.

So why did Trump hide them from the American people? He had been out of office for more than 560 days when the FBI searched his house.

He has no excuse for not releasing those to the American people.
 

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So why did Trump hide them from the American people? He had been out of office for more than 560 days when the FBI searched his house.

He has no excuse for not releasing those to the American people.

They asked for the documents over a year ago... Then they subpoenaed them.. and finally they raided his house.
 

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Your author is speculating and he's from that crackpot site conservative treehouse.

It seems each new defense of Trump just ends up making Trump look worse.
 

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They asked for the documents over a year ago... Then they subpoenaed them.. and finally they raided his house.

Trump could have made the public on Jan 22nd 2021 since he claims they were no longer classified on that day.

Why didn't he?
 

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Your author is speculating and he's from that crackpot site conservative treehouse.
It seems each new defense of Trump just ends up making Trump look worse.
Boy, they're definitely trying everything, that's for sure.

And there's so much we don't know. Interesting watching them flail around like this with so few facts.
 

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Boy, they're definitely trying everything, that's for sure.

And there's so much we don't know. Interesting watching them flail around like this with so few facts.

It seems as if they are trying to have a pre-made excuse for no matter what the outcome is.

It is sort of like picking 6 teams to win the Super Bowl and when one does you go "see, I was right"
 

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Boy, they're definitely trying everything, that's for sure.

And there's so much we don't know. Interesting watching them flail around like this with so few facts.

You have to remember that Trump reads on a fourth grade level.
 

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I think some will finally have their lefty delusions shattered while the rest won't care because "the ends justify the means" is their main conviction & totalitarian control is what the collectivism of the left is really all about.
I would keep it simple and just accept that the FBI/DOJ understand that Trump has to be stopped to save democracy.
The raid was obviously a very well planned out event that will give the authorities the evidence against Trump that will appeal to sane Americans.

Trump being able to take control is becoming quite likely and there will be no way of wrestling it back again through democratic means.

If legal means fail to take him down then it's a safe bet to say they will resort to any other means at their disposal.
 

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This is a piece by Larry Johnson detailing what are probably the true motives behind the Mar-a-Lago political raid. He is basing this mostly on a series of articles from Sundance at the Conservative Treehouse.
Sundance does excellent investigations & is much more informed than any in the MSM, despite what all the proglodytes will say.

DT had numerous docs proving the intelligence communities in the US & Great Britain were illegally targeting himself via Crossfire Hurricane.
They were also after other Repub primary nominees & even Bernie Sanders just to hedge their bets & have an angle of attack no matter what happened in the primaries.
This is in addition to all the Americans they target now by using the Patriot Act against us to spy domestically.
The FBI, CIA, DOD & DOJ were all compromised & subverted by Barry in his 8 years in office & they were turned against DT before he even became President.
Mueller, Comey, Brennan, et al were all actively working together to try to prevent an America First president from revealing what a bunch of lying duplicitous pit of vipers our Fed agencies had become as they targeted Americans & foreigners alike.

They were doing this in conjunction with private entities such as HRC & her campaign, Fusion GPS, Perkins Coie law, the DNC & all the usual players like Marc Elias & Jake "The Lying Foot Soldier" Sullivan.
DT has an ongoing lawsuit against these entities in the courts now.

The whole Russia collusion narrative was orchestrated by having an FBI informant close to DT propose a Trump Tower license in Moscow.

Here is another example, we also know that Felix Sater–a longtime business associate of Donald Trump and an FBI informant since December 1998 (he was signed up by Andrew Weismann)–initiated the proposal to do a Trump Tower in Moscow. Don’t take my word for it, that’s what Robert Mueller reported:


Sater’s communication with Rozov were intercepted by western intelligence agencies–GCHQ and NSA. I do not know which agency put it into an intel report, but it was put into the system. The Sater FD-1023 will tell us whether or not Sater did this at the direction of the FBI or acted on his own initiative. The key point is that the “bait” to do something with the Russians came from a registered FBI informant.



In addition, we would have Admiral Rogers writing a mandatory oversight notification to the FISA court detailing what happened. That’s a big and comprehensive classified record, likely contained in the documents in Mar-a-Lago… and then the goldmine, the fully unredacted 99-page FISA court opinion detailing the substance of the NSA compromise by FBI officials and contractors, including the names, frequency and dates of the illegal surveillance. That is a major classified document the Deepest Deep State would want to keep hidden.

These are the types of documents within what former ODNI John Ratcliffe called “thousands of pages that were declassified by President Trump,” and given to both John Durham and Main Justice with an expectation of public release when the Durham special counsel probe concluded.

In short, President Trump declassified documents that show how the institutions within the U.S. government targeted him. However, the institutions that illegally targeted President Trump are the same institutions who control the specific evidence of their unlawful targeting.

These examples of evidence held by President Donald Trump reveals the background of how the DC surveillance state exists. THAT was/is the national security threat behind the DOJ-NSD search warrant and affidavit.



Say this is all true (not a given but very much more likely than idiotic BS like nuke codes & giving national secrets to the Russians), will the progressives change their minds & realize how dangerous this is to a free society when a govt police state is attempting a coup or is it all acceptable as long as they never see another mean tweet?
I think some will finally have their lefty delusions shattered while the rest won't care because "the ends justify the means" is their main conviction & totalitarian control is what the collectivism of the left is really all about.

Reports on Twitter that many FBI agents running to Congress to start the leaking and whistleblowing. Which of course would happen, since the FBI has discredited itself completely and now looks to potentially tear the nation apart.

The FBI is a huge org. They took a big chance that none of their own would rat them out. Now let's see what happens.
 

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Reports on Twitter that many FBI agents running to Congress to start the leaking and whistleblowing. Which of course would happen, since the FBI has discredited itself completely and now looks to potentially tear the nation apart.

The FBI is a huge org. They took a big chance that none of their own would rat them out. Now let's see what happens.

Well, we all know if it is on Twitter it has to be true. It is against the law to lie on Twitter.
 

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I would keep it simple and just accept that the FBI/DOJ understand that Trump has to be stopped to save democracy.
The raid was obviously a very well planned out event that will give the authorities the evidence against Trump that will appeal to sane Americans.

Trump being able to take control is becoming quite likely and there will be no way of wrestling it back again through democratic means.

If legal means fail to take him down then it's a safe bet to say they will resort to any other means at their disposal.
So you save Democracy from what exactly?

By illegally spying on a Presidential Candidate who has committed no crimes, by submitting knowingly False Affidavits to an Unconstitutional Secret Court called FISA, so you can conduct an Unconstitutional Investigation based on False Allegations that you know were financed and created by his political enemies?

By raiding his home using secret warrants and secret courts and secret judges to sign off on a Raid for materials they already listed and scheduled to be transferred to The National Archives. By looking, for well, NOTHING REALLY, and you knowingly pursue investigations against a President once elected that you know are false and know were financed and ordered by his political opposition, yet tried to conceal that from We The People so you could continue your Propaganda War against a President standing in your way, and then you try to stop him from participating in our Democracy and Elections to "Save Democracy?

Is this how Fascists took over The German Democratic Republic by telling them "Democracy was in peril" and once they were in power to Save Democracy, simply abolished it?

Either Trump is an Uber Super Evil Genius outsmarting you all for 6 years straight or it is YOU we need to save Democracy From.
How did your panty raid go, btw?

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So you save Democracy from what exactly? By spying on a Presidential Candidate who has committed no crimes, by submitting knowingly False Affidavits to an Unconstitutional Secret Court called FISA, By raiding his home using secret warrants and secret courts and secret judges to sign off on it, looking for well, NOTHING REALLY, and you knowingly pursue investigations against a President once elected that you know are false and know were financed and ordered by his political opposition, and then you try to stop him from participating in our Democracy and Elections to "Save Democracy?
Yes, all of that and more. The desperation of the situation calls for desperate measures being taken and then attemptinig to spin doctor the outcome to the people so it will be accepted.

From an outsider's POV, there's no doubt that sane Americans understand that he must be stopped. The risk is too great for depending on it being done at the ballot boxes now. His fascist followers have secured the ballot outcome and the Scotus will back them up.

It's clearly up to the FBI/DOJ/CIA/whatever agency is tasked with the job.
 
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Yes, all of that and more. The desperation of the situation calls for desperate measures being taken and then attemptinig to spin doctor the outcome to the people so it will be accepted.
Desperation for what?

You are Desperate to Prevent a Former Duly Elected President from Running in a Democratic Election, for a Democratically Elected Political Office to save Democracy from an Democratic Election?

So what you are admitting is that Joe Biden was selected now, and not elected since you know, you can't allow unexpected outcomes like what happened in 2016 when you failed to rig that election. Am I right?

Next time, hire The Chinese like you did in 2020. They are much better at releasing BIO Weapons and subverting other nations and are far more ruthless than The Russians. The Chinese don't care who they kill to get what they want.

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