Unbelievable! DJIA closes at 29,030 and the idiot Democrats impeach Trump!

[Harpy Eagle]

Again with the stupid childish images! Once again NOT one link proving the below wrong! Because these are Obama's words!
FACTS Faun... and the facts are:
1) Obama asked give me space.
2) For which favor of giving Obama "space" Obama promised "flexibility" in dealing with Russia /
Obama Asks Medvedev for 'Space' on Missile Defense

So, getting back to your original post...do you really think that the DJI should be a factor in deciding if impeachment is warranted?

The DJI was hitting all time highs when Clinton was impeached, should that have been factored into the proceedings?

 

[healthmyths]

Again with the stupid childish images! Once again NOT one link proving the below wrong! Because these are Obama's words!
FACTS Faun... and the facts are:
1) Obama asked give me space.
2) For which favor of giving Obama "space" Obama promised "flexibility" in dealing with Russia /
Obama Asks Medvedev for 'Space' on Missile Defense

So, getting back to your original post...do you really think that the DJI should be a factor in deciding if impeachment is warranted?

The DJI was hitting all time highs when Clinton was impeached, should that have been factored into the proceedings?

I think ALL factors should be considered. The economy faltered under GWB BECAUSE people believed as Barney Franks did originally but
since has changed and stated:
"I hope by next year we'll have abolished Fannie and Freddie," he said. Remarkable. And he went on to say that "it was a great mistake to push lower-income people into housing they couldn't afford and couldn't really handle once they had it." He then added,
"I had been too sanguine about Fannie and Freddie."
Barney Frank admits truth about Fannie
I also believe the economy was coming back in SPITE of what Obama did to thwart economic growth as these following statements and policies show.
I'd really like you to honestly assess these anti-business, anti-American statements and policies and convince me Obama was as positive about America
as Trump is.
Finally, I personally like millions don't like Trump's braggadocio, nouveau riche personality...BUT I've had bosses like Trump, i.e. pompous butts,etc. yet
these bosses like Trump gets things done. Trump NEVER needed to be President financially...he gives his salary away, so why does he take this from
90+% of the time negative press, and people like anti-trumpers ? He loves America, his family, law enforcement and the military and wants America to
be great. For those reasons and the fact he HAS been successful, I support Trump and will do as much as I feebly can promote his efforts!
Read the below carefully and tell me you agree with Obama on all or some of these statements/policies.

 

[healthmyths]

Again with the stupid childish images! Once again NOT one link proving the below wrong! Because these are Obama's words!
FACTS Faun... and the facts are:
1) Obama asked give me space.
2) For which favor of giving Obama "space" Obama promised "flexibility" in dealing with Russia /
Obama Asks Medvedev for 'Space' on Missile Defense

So, getting back to your original post...do you really think that the DJI should be a factor in deciding if impeachment is warranted?

The DJI was hitting all time highs when Clinton was impeached, should that have been factored into the proceedings?

I think ALL factors should be considered. The economy faltered under GWB BECAUSE people believed as Barney Franks did originally but
since has changed and stated:
"I hope by next year we'll have abolished Fannie and Freddie," he said. Remarkable. And he went on to say that "it was a great mistake to push lower-income people into housing they couldn't afford and couldn't really handle once they had it." He then added,
"I had been too sanguine about Fannie and Freddie."
Barney Frank admits truth about Fannie
I also believe the economy was coming back in SPITE of what Obama did to thwart economic growth as these following statements and policies show.
I'd really like you to honestly assess these anti-business, anti-American statements and policies and convince me Obama was as positive about America
as Trump is.
Finally, I personally like millions don't like Trump's braggadocio, nouveau riche personality...BUT I've had bosses like Trump, i.e. pompous butts,etc. yet
these bosses like Trump gets things done. Trump NEVER needed to be President financially...he gives his salary away, so why does he take this from
90+% of the time negative press, and people like anti-trumpers ? He loves America, his family, law enforcement and the military and wants America to
be great. For those reasons and the fact he HAS been successful, I support Trump and will do as much as I feebly can promote his efforts!
Read the below carefully and tell me you agree with Obama on all or some of these statements/policies.
View attachment 301453

Faun... you still haven't retorted the statements and policies I've attached by Obama.
I totally agree, the economy limped along IN SPITE of Obama's efforts to destroy America!
Please tell me exactly where most if not all of the statements/policies of Obama were positive efforts to improve America.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I think ALL factors should be considered.

Why? What bearing does a good economy have on if the POTUS has committed an offense worthy of impeachment? Should a POTUS be allowed to do illegal things as long as the economy is booming?

Finally, I personally like millions don't like Trump's braggadocio, nouveau riche personality...BUT I've had bosses like Trump, i.e. pompous butts,etc. yet these bosses like Trump gets things done.

My experience with bosses like Trump is very different. They tend to take credit for things they had nothing to do with and actually accomplish very little once you work past all the fluff.

Trump NEVER needed to be President financially...he gives his salary away, so why does he take this from 90+% of the time negative press, and people like anti-trumpers ? He loves America, his family, law enforcement and the military and wants America to be great. For those reasons and the fact he HAS been successful, I support Trump and will do as much as I feebly can promote his efforts!

Trump loves Trump, and not much else.

Read the below carefully and tell me you agree with Obama on all or some of these statements/policies.

And despite all those negatives from Obama, Trump is only marginally better, if better at all, in any given economic measure.

 

[CowboyTed]

And all for a nothing issue! Exactly what "high crimes and misdemeanors" did Trump do? Where is the proof? Yet the proof that Trump wants Americans do have a better life is all around best illustrated by
today's closing OVER 29030 for the DJIA.

Could this have been accomplished under Obama?
NOPE... NOT when you read the attached because basically Obama didn't want America to be better!
Remember he said it would take a magic wand to create jobs. Remember he told the world America had
seen better days. Remember Obama said these exact words on his nomination and you tell me
if this wasn't a "god-like" persona!
“the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”
Is Barack Obama the Messiah?: "this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal ..."

And yet the truly politically ONLY way to get back to Trump is impeachment.

You are looking at the demise of the Democratic party...

View attachment 300554

So what... Obama Doubled the Dow Jones in his first 4 years...

 

[healthmyths]

I think ALL factors should be considered.

Why? What bearing does a good economy have on if the POTUS has committed an offense worthy of impeachment? Should a POTUS be allowed to do illegal things as long as the economy is booming?

Finally, I personally like millions don't like Trump's braggadocio, nouveau riche personality...BUT I've had bosses like Trump, i.e. pompous butts,etc. yet these bosses like Trump gets things done.

My experience with bosses like Trump is very different. They tend to take credit for things they had nothing to do with and actually accomplish very little once you work past all the fluff.

Trump NEVER needed to be President financially...he gives his salary away, so why does he take this from 90+% of the time negative press, and people like anti-trumpers ? He loves America, his family, law enforcement and the military and wants America to be great. For those reasons and the fact he HAS been successful, I support Trump and will do as much as I feebly can promote his efforts!

Trump loves Trump, and not much else.

Read the below carefully and tell me you agree with Obama on all or some of these statements/policies.

And despite all those negatives from Obama, Trump is only marginally better, if better at all, in any given economic measure.

Really?
Remember this quote from Obama?
Obama said: "He just says, 'Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.' Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn’t have an answer.”
Obama to Trump: 'What magic wand do you have?'

So Obama claims Trump has a magic wand because:
And the United States has added 138,000 manufacturing jobs so far this year, far better than the 34,000 factory jobs lost over the same period last year.
Last year's losses reinforced President Trump's portrayal of manufacturing in a long decline.
"One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions upon millions of American workers left behind," he said in his inaugural address in January.
Is Trump keeping his promises on manufacturing?
Again where is YOUR proof regarding "Trump only marginally better"???

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I think ALL factors should be considered.

Why? What bearing does a good economy have on if the POTUS has committed an offense worthy of impeachment? Should a POTUS be allowed to do illegal things as long as the economy is booming?

Finally, I personally like millions don't like Trump's braggadocio, nouveau riche personality...BUT I've had bosses like Trump, i.e. pompous butts,etc. yet these bosses like Trump gets things done.

My experience with bosses like Trump is very different. They tend to take credit for things they had nothing to do with and actually accomplish very little once you work past all the fluff.

Trump NEVER needed to be President financially...he gives his salary away, so why does he take this from 90+% of the time negative press, and people like anti-trumpers ? He loves America, his family, law enforcement and the military and wants America to be great. For those reasons and the fact he HAS been successful, I support Trump and will do as much as I feebly can promote his efforts!

Trump loves Trump, and not much else.

Read the below carefully and tell me you agree with Obama on all or some of these statements/policies.

And despite all those negatives from Obama, Trump is only marginally better, if better at all, in any given economic measure.

Really?
Remember this quote from Obama?
Obama said: "He just says, 'Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.' Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn’t have an answer.”
Obama to Trump: 'What magic wand do you have?'

So Obama claims Trump has a magic wand because:
And the United States has added 138,000 manufacturing jobs so far this year, far better than the 34,000 factory jobs lost over the same period last year.
Last year's losses reinforced President Trump's portrayal of manufacturing in a long decline.
"One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions upon millions of American workers left behind," he said in his inaugural address in January.
Is Trump keeping his promises on manufacturing?
Again where is YOUR proof regarding "Trump only marginally better"???

Name me one economic measure that Trump is far better than Obama in...

as for manufacturing jobs...seems they have been going up since 2011

Unbelievable! DJIA closes at 29,030 and the idiot Democrats impeach Trump!

 

[Markle]

The abuse of power was using the power of his office to solicit a foreign leader to investigate a political rival.

Where? There is nothing, as you know, in the letter made public.

How is it an abuse of power to investigate a foreign country about fraud before sending them billions of dollars in aid? Do you really believe that whether an investigation is done is dependent on whether or not that person is a celebrity or politician?

Wow!

LOLOL

Sure there was. I don't care how illiterate you are.

"Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..." - Impeached Trump​

There was no QUID PRO QUO!

What part of that is not clear to you?

This is terrible, politically driven premises for trying to undo the 2016 election.

I think the motivation behind the Democrat leadership is to keep the far left candidates Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren off the campaign trail to improve the chances of more moderate candidates.

 

[Markle]

I never said the Senate voted down impeaching Clinton. You only think I said that because you're a conservative and conservatives are ******* brain-dead cultists.

Is this NOT your statement?

"Faun"
"A statute need not be violated to warrant impeachment. Abuse of power is a violation of the publics' trust and is an impeachable offense. Articles of impeachment on abuse of power have been drawn up 3 times now in committee in U.S. history. Nixon, it never made it to the House floor. Clinton, it voted down by the House. Trump, it was passed by the House."

Holyfuckingshit, you cons are completely insane.

Nutjob.... that was just one article.

I'M a nutjob but this was your admitted statement. Clinton, it voted down by the House.

"House," dumbfuck, not the "Senate."

IF ths HOUSE had voted down the impeachment of former President Clinton, he would NOT have been impeached. HE WAS IMPEACHED! What part is not clear to you and you call ME names!

 

[Markle]

Is this NOT your statement?

"Faun"
"A statute need not be violated to warrant impeachment. Abuse of power is a violation of the publics' trust and is an impeachable offense. Articles of impeachment on abuse of power have been drawn up 3 times now in committee in U.S. history. Nixon, it never made it to the House floor. Clinton, it voted down by the House. Trump, it was passed by the House."

Holyfuckingshit, you cons are completely insane.

Nutjob.... that was just one article.

Faun... what is the difference between these two well known videos from Trump's actions?

As Obama was leaning toward Medvedev in Seoul, Obama was overheard asking for time - “particularly with missile defense” - until he is in a better position politically to resolve such issues.
“I understand your message about space,” replied Medvedev, who will hand over the presidency to Putin in May.
“This is my last election ... After my election I have more flexibility,” Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term.
“I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” said Medvedev, Putin’s protégé and long considered number two in Moscow’s power structure.
Obama tells Russia's Medvedev more flexibility after election

So didn't Obama as a favor and in exchange Obama would have more "flexibility,"
So why wasn't Obama impeached for promising more "flexibility," to the Russians?

• Because Obama is black.
• A Democrat.
• A favorite of the MSM as this chart shows.
• Because Obama is black.

And what is Biden asking for:
"I (Biden) looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours.
If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a *****. (Laughter.)
He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.
FLASHBACK, 2018: Joe Biden Brags At CFR Meeting About Withholding Aid To Ukraine To Force Firing Of Prosecutor

Please tell me what the differences are?

oh wait... Trump is a former Democrat now GOP President and Biden/Obama are Democrats... That is the ONLY difference!

What did Obama ask from Medvedev that would have aided his campaign for re-election?

I'll let someone with MORE expertise than YOU or me combined answer your question.

"If Obama wasn’t looking for a favor to help him win, then why mention the election at all?

Was this flexibility, whatever it referred to, official U.S. policy?
Had Obama been told by brave career diplomats to offer Medvedev more flexibility after the election?
Or did Obama just make this offer on his own? Was it for his own benefit?
It is a metric that voters use and value in evaluating a sitting president.
Just ask Jimmy Carter, who lost his re-election campaign in the midst of the Iran hostage crisis.
What is clear from the hot mic moment is that Obama was offering to do some thing or things after the election that he could not do prior to the election.
And he was asking Russia to show patience and help that re-election happen."
David Marcus is the Federalist's New York Correspondent
Flashback: Obama Asked The Russians To Interfere In A U.S. Election

Seems very clear it wasn't official US policy then why else did Obama as for a "FAVOR?

Again... what favor did Obama ask??

That came later in a phone call, not over a hit mike!

 

[Markle]

Why? What bearing does a good economy have on if the POTUS has committed an offense worthy of impeachment? Should a POTUS be allowed to do illegal things as long as the economy is booming?

Specifically, what did President Donald Trump do which is illegal?

My experience with bosses like Trump is very different. They tend to take credit for things they had nothing to do with and actually accomplish very little once you work past all the fluff.

Fluff?

Steve Moore: Middle-class Incomes Surge More Than $5,000 Under Trump Economy
BY PETER VICENZI
10/07/2019

Steve Moore: Middle-class Incomes Surge More Than $5,000 Under Trump Economy | FreedomWorks

###

Younger and Minority Workers Lead Wage Gains as Expansion Ages
Oct. 17, 2019, 8:59 AM

A tightening labor market with U.S. unemployment rate at a 50-year low is starting to result in higher wages for full-time workers, including younger people and minorities whose pay has lagged.

Median weekly earnings for Americans in the third quarter rose 3.6% to $919, outpacing inflation, the U.S. Labor Department reported Wednesday. Earnings for those aged 25 to 54, in their prime working years, rose by 5%, the fastest rate of growth in recent years.

Younger and Minority Workers Lead Wage Gains as Expansion Ages

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ECONOMY
Record-low black unemployment cheered by black activists
Published 1 month ago on September 9, 2019

[...]

“Love him or hate him, this is an incredible economic accomplishment for the President and a tremendous benefit for American blacks,” said Project 21 member Derryck Green.

Along with a reported third straight month of 3.7 percent overall unemployment, the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) August jobs report noted that the overall black unemployment rate fell half-a-percent to 5.5 percent. This is the lowest black unemployment rate ever recorded. BLS began reporting employment statistics by race in 1972. And with overall white unemployment at 3.4 percent, it is also the smallest reported gap between the races ever in terms of joblessness. Until recently, the racial employment disparity between blacks and whites has generally held to a 2-1 margin.

Record-low black unemployment cheered by black activists

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Help wanted: Too many jobs and not enough workers in most states
Tim Henderson, Stateline Published 8:00 a.m. CT Oct. 15, 2019 | Updated 7:10 p.m. CT Oct. 15, 2019

In 39 states, there are more jobs than people looking for them, according to a Stateline analysis of June hiring and employment data from the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Help wanted: Too many jobs and not enough workers in most states

###

USMCA: Agreement reached on Nafta trade deal replacement
10 December 2019

The US, Mexico and Canada have finalized a trade deal that will replace the 25-year-old North American Free Trade Agreement (Nafta).

Agreement reached on Nafta trade deal replacement

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The November hiring surge pushed incomes for Americans higher last month.
by JOHN CARNEY
20 Dec 2019

Incomes rose by half a percentage point in November, above economists’ forecasts and much better than the soft readings in September and October. This was the strongest gain since July, according to data from the Commerce Department on Friday.

Consumer spending rose at a 0.4 percent annual rate last month, led by a jump in spending on big-ticket durable goods like autos and appliances.

The higher spending is not due to rising prices. Inflation, as measured by the Federal Reserve’s preferred price indicator, is still running well below the Fed’s 2 percent target. It came in at just 1.5 percent for November compared with a year ago.

And despite the rise in consumer spending, Americans are saving more. The saving rate edged up to 7.9 percent of after-tax income in November.

Christmas Cheer: Incomes Jumps Higher, Consumer Spending Soars | Breitbart

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US employment remains strong, 145,000 jobs added in December
By JOSH BOAK AP Economics Writer
January 10, 2020, 7:07 PM

U.S. employers downshifted their hiring in December, adding 145,000 jobs as consumer spending appeared to aid gains in the retail and hospitality sectors

US employment remains strong, 145,000 jobs added in December

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Manufacturing Surveys Indicate Growth Returning to U.S. Factories
JOHN CARNEY
16 Jan 2020

The U.S. manufacturing sector appears to be regaining its footing, suggesting the beaten-down sector may once again be expanding.

The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia’s survey-based index of manufacturing activity soared to 17 in January, up from the weak 0.3 reading in December and well-above forecasts for a reading of 3.0.

Manufacturing Surveys Indicate Growth Returning to U.S. Factories | Breitbart

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Merry Christmas: Retail Sales Grew at Healthy Pace in December
16 Jan 2020

Retail sales rose at a healthy pace in December, a sign that a very healthy U.S. labor market and consumer optimism is continuing to support economic growth.

The Commerce Department said Thursday that retail sales–which measures sales at stores, online, and in restaurants–increased a seasonally adjusted three-tenths of a percentage point in December compared with November to $529.6 billion. That was in line with the consensus forecast.

Merry Christmas: Retail Sales Grew at Healthy Pace in December | Breitbart

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US-China phase 1 trade deal: Beijing agrees to buy $200 billion in US products
By Michelle Toh, CNN Business
11 hrs ago [Jan 16. 2020]

China has agreed to buy hundreds of billions of dollars worth of products from the United States as part of their "phase one" trade deal.

The agreement signed Wednesday will have Beijing purchase an additional $200 billion of US goods and services over the next two years.

The increase in purchases will be compared to 2017, before the trade war started. China imported over $185 billion in total US goods and services that year.

In exchange, Washington has agreed to reduce tariffs on $120 billion in Chinese products from 15% to 7.5%.

Taken together, the phased purchases by China would result in a dramatic surge in US exports. Total exports to China would increase to over $260 billion in 2020, and roughly $310 billion in 2021 if the deal holds

US-China phase 1 trade deal: Beijing agrees to buy $200 billion in US products

More?

Trump loves Trump, and not much else.

And despite all those negatives from Obama, Trump is only marginally better, if better at all, in any given economic measure.

See the list above!

 

[Uncensored2008]

I never said the Senate voted down impeaching Clinton. You only think I said that because you're a conservative and conservatives are ******* brain-dead cultists.

Is this NOT your statement?

"Faun"
"A statute need not be violated to warrant impeachment. Abuse of power is a violation of the publics' trust and is an impeachable offense. Articles of impeachment on abuse of power have been drawn up 3 times now in committee in U.S. history. Nixon, it never made it to the House floor. Clinton, it voted down by the House. Trump, it was passed by the House."

Holyfuckingshit, you cons are completely insane.

Nutjob.... that was just one article.

I'M a nutjob but this was your admitted statement. Clinton, it voted down by the House.

"House," dumbfuck, not the "Senate."

Comrade hate bot, seems that the senate adjudicates impeachments....

Don't you feel stupid now?

Oh wait, you're a bot, an artificial stupidity routine, you don't "feel" in any way....

 

[Faun]

The abuse of power was using the power of his office to solicit a foreign leader to investigate a political rival.

Where? There is nothing, as you know, in the letter made public.

How is it an abuse of power to investigate a foreign country about fraud before sending them billions of dollars in aid? Do you really believe that whether an investigation is done is dependent on whether or not that person is a celebrity or politician?

Wow!

LOLOL

Sure there was. I don't care how illiterate you are.

"Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..." - Impeached Trump​

There was no QUID PRO QUO!

What part of that is not clear to you?

This is terrible, politically driven premises for trying to undo the 2016 election.

I think the motivation behind the Democrat leadership is to keep the far left candidates Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren off the campaign trail to improve the chances of more moderate candidates.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, quid pro quo, while damaging, is irrelevant. Just soliciting a foreign national to investigate a political rival is an abuse of power and sufficient to impeach and remove a president from office.

 

[Faun]

I never said the Senate voted down impeaching Clinton. You only think I said that because you're a conservative and conservatives are ******* brain-dead cultists.

Is this NOT your statement?

"Faun"
"A statute need not be violated to warrant impeachment. Abuse of power is a violation of the publics' trust and is an impeachable offense. Articles of impeachment on abuse of power have been drawn up 3 times now in committee in U.S. history. Nixon, it never made it to the House floor. Clinton, it voted down by the House. Trump, it was passed by the House."

Holyfuckingshit, you cons are completely insane.

Nutjob.... that was just one article.

I'M a nutjob but this was your admitted statement. Clinton, it voted down by the House.

"House," dumbfuck, not the "Senate."

IF ths HOUSE had voted down the impeachment of former President Clinton, he would NOT have been impeached. HE WAS IMPEACHED! What part is not clear to you and you call ME names!

LOLOLOLOL

You're ******* insane. I never said the House voted down impeachment.

 

[Faun]

Holyfuckingshit, you cons are completely insane.

Nutjob.... that was just one article.

Faun... what is the difference between these two well known videos from Trump's actions?

As Obama was leaning toward Medvedev in Seoul, Obama was overheard asking for time - “particularly with missile defense” - until he is in a better position politically to resolve such issues.
“I understand your message about space,” replied Medvedev, who will hand over the presidency to Putin in May.
“This is my last election ... After my election I have more flexibility,” Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term.
“I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” said Medvedev, Putin’s protégé and long considered number two in Moscow’s power structure.
Obama tells Russia's Medvedev more flexibility after election

So didn't Obama as a favor and in exchange Obama would have more "flexibility,"
So why wasn't Obama impeached for promising more "flexibility," to the Russians?

• Because Obama is black.
• A Democrat.
• A favorite of the MSM as this chart shows.
• Because Obama is black.

And what is Biden asking for:
"I (Biden) looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours.
If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a *****. (Laughter.)
He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.
FLASHBACK, 2018: Joe Biden Brags At CFR Meeting About Withholding Aid To Ukraine To Force Firing Of Prosecutor

Please tell me what the differences are?

oh wait... Trump is a former Democrat now GOP President and Biden/Obama are Democrats... That is the ONLY difference!

What did Obama ask from Medvedev that would have aided his campaign for re-election?

I'll let someone with MORE expertise than YOU or me combined answer your question.

"If Obama wasn’t looking for a favor to help him win, then why mention the election at all?

Was this flexibility, whatever it referred to, official U.S. policy?
Had Obama been told by brave career diplomats to offer Medvedev more flexibility after the election?
Or did Obama just make this offer on his own? Was it for his own benefit?
It is a metric that voters use and value in evaluating a sitting president.
Just ask Jimmy Carter, who lost his re-election campaign in the midst of the Iran hostage crisis.
What is clear from the hot mic moment is that Obama was offering to do some thing or things after the election that he could not do prior to the election.
And he was asking Russia to show patience and help that re-election happen."
David Marcus is the Federalist's New York Correspondent
Flashback: Obama Asked The Russians To Interfere In A U.S. Election

Seems very clear it wasn't official US policy then why else did Obama as for a "FAVOR?

Again... what favor did Obama ask??

That came later in a phone call, not over a hit mike!

Who's a hit Mike? Michael Jackson?

Regardless, I'm still waiting for any one of you fools to show what Obama asked of Medvedev to help his re-election campaign.....

 

[Faun]

[
The abuse of power was using the power of his office to solicit a foreign leader to investigate a political rival.

Oh shit, that's terrible.

{
The May 4 letter requests that Lutsenko answer three questions, which include inquiries about whether the office did attempt to "restrict cooperation" with Mueller's probe and "if so, why?"
It also asks if anyone from the Trump administration encouraged "Ukrainian government or law enforcement officials not to cooperate" with Mueller's investigation, and if that probe was "raised in any way during discussions between your government and US officials, including around the meeting of Presidents Trump and Poroshenko in New York in 2017," a reference to Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.
Mueller is investigating Russia's attempts to influence the 2016 US presidential election and is looking into any potential ties between Trump campaign associates and Russia's efforts. Trump has repeatedly denied any collusion.
"As strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine, we believe that our cooperation should extend to such legal matters, regardless of politics," the three senators wrote.}


Senators ask about Ukraine involvement in Robert Mueller probe - CNNPolitics

You ******* fraud.

You really are a typical lazy uninformed progressive/liberal/Democrat using stupid, childish emojis.
No wonder you have so many non-sensical responses and far fewer original threads!

Post rationally and you'll get rational answers. When you yahoos post utter nonsense, I'll generally waste little time other than to post the cuckoo emoticon.

 

[Faun]

Holyfuckingshit, you cons are completely insane.

Nutjob.... that was just one article.

Faun... what is the difference between these two well known videos from Trump's actions?

As Obama was leaning toward Medvedev in Seoul, Obama was overheard asking for time - “particularly with missile defense” - until he is in a better position politically to resolve such issues.
“I understand your message about space,” replied Medvedev, who will hand over the presidency to Putin in May.
“This is my last election ... After my election I have more flexibility,” Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term.
“I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” said Medvedev, Putin’s protégé and long considered number two in Moscow’s power structure.
Obama tells Russia's Medvedev more flexibility after election

So didn't Obama as a favor and in exchange Obama would have more "flexibility,"
So why wasn't Obama impeached for promising more "flexibility," to the Russians?

• Because Obama is black.
• A Democrat.
• A favorite of the MSM as this chart shows.
• Because Obama is black.

And what is Biden asking for:
"I (Biden) looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours.
If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a *****. (Laughter.)
He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.
FLASHBACK, 2018: Joe Biden Brags At CFR Meeting About Withholding Aid To Ukraine To Force Firing Of Prosecutor

Please tell me what the differences are?

oh wait... Trump is a former Democrat now GOP President and Biden/Obama are Democrats... That is the ONLY difference!

What did Obama ask from Medvedev that would have aided his campaign for re-election?

I'll let someone with MORE expertise than YOU or me combined answer your question.

"If Obama wasn’t looking for a favor to help him win, then why mention the election at all?

Was this flexibility, whatever it referred to, official U.S. policy?
Had Obama been told by brave career diplomats to offer Medvedev more flexibility after the election?
Or did Obama just make this offer on his own? Was it for his own benefit?
It is a metric that voters use and value in evaluating a sitting president.
Just ask Jimmy Carter, who lost his re-election campaign in the midst of the Iran hostage crisis.
What is clear from the hot mic moment is that Obama was offering to do some thing or things after the election that he could not do prior to the election.
And he was asking Russia to show patience and help that re-election happen."
David Marcus is the Federalist's New York Correspondent
Flashback: Obama Asked The Russians To Interfere In A U.S. Election

Seems very clear it wasn't official US policy then why else did Obama as for a "FAVOR?

Again... what favor did Obama ask??

And again, you and I have a very minuscule knowledge of what Obama was asking for but this author I referred to has considerably more
experience you have to admit! So when he writes:
If Obama wasn’t looking for a favor to help him win, then why mention the election at all?
Was this flexibility, whatever it referred to, official U.S. policy?

Obviously you miss the very obvious point! Why would Obama lean over and ask..
“ On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it's important for him to give me space.
This is my last election ... After my election I have more flexibility,”
Obama Asks Medvedev for 'Space' on Missile Defense

So QUID... Obama ask for "space"... Pro Quo: Obama will be MORE FLEXIBILITY!

That's not quid pro quo, ya moron. Obama was putting off Medvedev until after the election since he would have been in no position to negotiate anything had he lost his bid for re-election.

Like I always say, there's no creature slithering this Earth dumber than a conservative.

 

[Faun]

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The abuse of power was using the power of his office to solicit a foreign leader to investigate a political rival.

Oh shit, that's terrible.

{
The May 4 letter requests that Lutsenko answer three questions, which include inquiries about whether the office did attempt to "restrict cooperation" with Mueller's probe and "if so, why?"
It also asks if anyone from the Trump administration encouraged "Ukrainian government or law enforcement officials not to cooperate" with Mueller's investigation, and if that probe was "raised in any way during discussions between your government and US officials, including around the meeting of Presidents Trump and Poroshenko in New York in 2017," a reference to Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.
Mueller is investigating Russia's attempts to influence the 2016 US presidential election and is looking into any potential ties between Trump campaign associates and Russia's efforts. Trump has repeatedly denied any collusion.
"As strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine, we believe that our cooperation should extend to such legal matters, regardless of politics," the three senators wrote.}


Senators ask about Ukraine involvement in Robert Mueller probe - CNNPolitics

You ******* fraud.

You really are a typical lazy uninformed progressive/liberal/Democrat using stupid, childish emojis.
No wonder you have so many non-sensical responses and far fewer original threads!

LOLOL

Your surrender is accepted. I take this as you have no ******* clue what favor for his re-election Obama was asking for.

Again with the stupid childish images! Once again NOT one link proving the below wrong! Because these are Obama's words!
FACTS Faun... and the facts are:
1) Obama asked give me space.
2) For which favor of giving Obama "space" Obama promised "flexibility" in dealing with Russia /
Obama Asks Medvedev for 'Space' on Missile Defense

 

[Faun]

Again with the stupid childish images! Once again NOT one link proving the below wrong! Because these are Obama's words!
FACTS Faun... and the facts are:
1) Obama asked give me space.
2) For which favor of giving Obama "space" Obama promised "flexibility" in dealing with Russia /
Obama Asks Medvedev for 'Space' on Missile Defense

So, getting back to your original post...do you really think that the DJI should be a factor in deciding if impeachment is warranted?

The DJI was hitting all time highs when Clinton was impeached, should that have been factored into the proceedings?

I think ALL factors should be considered. The economy faltered under GWB BECAUSE people believed as Barney Franks did originally but
since has changed and stated:
"I hope by next year we'll have abolished Fannie and Freddie," he said. Remarkable. And he went on to say that "it was a great mistake to push lower-income people into housing they couldn't afford and couldn't really handle once they had it." He then added,
"I had been too sanguine about Fannie and Freddie."
Barney Frank admits truth about Fannie
I also believe the economy was coming back in SPITE of what Obama did to thwart economic growth as these following statements and policies show.
I'd really like you to honestly assess these anti-business, anti-American statements and policies and convince me Obama was as positive about America
as Trump is.
Finally, I personally like millions don't like Trump's braggadocio, nouveau riche personality...BUT I've had bosses like Trump, i.e. pompous butts,etc. yet
these bosses like Trump gets things done. Trump NEVER needed to be President financially...he gives his salary away, so why does he take this from
90+% of the time negative press, and people like anti-trumpers ? He loves America, his family, law enforcement and the military and wants America to
be great. For those reasons and the fact he HAS been successful, I support Trump and will do as much as I feebly can promote his efforts!
Read the below carefully and tell me you agree with Obama on all or some of these statements/policies.
View attachment 301453

Faun... you still haven't retorted the statements and policies I've attached by Obama.
I totally agree, the economy limped along IN SPITE of Obama's efforts to destroy America!
Please tell me exactly where most if not all of the statements/policies of Obama were positive efforts to improve America.

LOL

And by limped along, you mean the Dow tripling and unemployment dropping from nearly three decade highs to just above record levels.

 

[Faun]

The abuse of power was using the power of his office to solicit a foreign leader to investigate a political rival.

Where? There is nothing, as you know, in the letter made public.

How is it an abuse of power to investigate a foreign country about fraud before sending them billions of dollars in aid? Do you really believe that whether an investigation is done is dependent on whether or not that person is a celebrity or politician?

Wow!

LOLOL

Sure there was. I don't care how illiterate you are.

"Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..." - Impeached Trump​

There was no QUID PRO QUO!

What part of that is not clear to you?

This is terrible, politically driven premises for trying to undo the 2016 election.

I think the motivation behind the Democrat leadership is to keep the far left candidates Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren off the campaign trail to improve the chances of more moderate candidates.

******* moron, my post wasn't speaking to quid pro quo. Do you even know you're senile?