Xenophon, I don't understand why you can't respond to anything I bring up. I mean, I don't know if you know a lot about the UN or not. But the fact is that you refuse to say anything (Except "UN-bad"), so I have no reason to believe you know much about it at all, or how it works. Not because you disagree with what I say, but the fact that you can't bring up any arguments of your own. I've asked you direct questions that you simply choose to ignore. Is it because you have no answers?
EDIT: You know, maybe I was a bit too hostile on my first post, so I'm sorry for that. But really, let's hear your case.
The UN is dysfunctional by design, the original idea was bad in that it was based on a four power dictat of world affairs where the rest would be forced to go along as might makes right, which is where the 'Security council' comes from.
Becuase there is no accountability of behavior you get ludicrous and comic opera 'resolutions' out of the general assemble that are in an embarrissment to anyone who might actually want to make the world a better place.
A good example is Libya accusing some other states of human rights violations, this from a state that invaded chad and allows no freedom within it's borders, yet it's 'moral weight' in the general assemby is the same as any other country, as it's history and nature are not taken into account.
Turning to the Israel matter, the british didn't want to deal with the partition problem they themselves created when they mandated the area after the first world war. They decided instead to dump the problem on the new organization as a test case and in the end it was disaster as only armed might could enforce unpopular UN decisions, so as a place for people meeting it became as useless as the league of Nations it replaced.
UN or no UN, the Jews were going to attempt to form a country after WWII and throwing the UN into the mix has made the entire process a mess, a mess aided unfortunetly by the bi-polar world of the cold war when the Soviets decided to start arming arabs in the late 60s and the US responded by arming israel.
Before this happened neither side could really wipe the other out, but as the super powers supplied more and more there potential for destruction increased. For the pals the disaster that befell them was the fall of Communism as it shut off the flow of free Russian arms. The Muslim states as a rule pay lip service to 'the plight of the palestinains' as a way of keeping for their own populations a ready made bad guy, Jews, so they won't look or protest to much about their own rotten governments and lack of freedom.
Haven't you ever wondered why 'refugeee camps' STILL exist for a war that ended 61 years ago? Those people were never allowed to assimulate into new lives, they are used as pawns to keep the frenzy rolling and give a ready made face to victimization.
The UN feeds all this, as does the flow of silly arab orginated UN 'resolutions' vs israel which as a basic design to keep the pressue up on the muslim world's favorite fall guy, Jews.
I don't believe Israel is perfect or blameless, they make a lot of their own problems by buliding settlements in areas whose ownership is disputed. But on the other hand, they are far from racist or 'aparthied' as some fools claim, as many Muslim arabs live in israel, many of them decendent from the Muslims who didn't leave, and they have full rights and protections. the Jews themselves are often the most harsh critics of their own state.
To sum up, asking the UN, an organization that always looks for 'truces' and 'ceasefires' and never for solutions to solve this is a waste of time, as is trying to use ANYTHING the UN says or does as a positive leagal or moral postion.
