UN report calls for decriminalization of all sexual activity, including between adults and children

This is disgusting. Of, course they're playing to the religious assholes in Africa and the middle east but it doesn't make it right. It is just plain wrong/.
 
Decriminalization of all sexual activity? Really? Rape, crush porn, strangulation, there's a lot of off stuff out there.
 
WTF does that have to do with the OP? We are talking about sex between adults & kids & you are talking about laws on poverty.
Does anyone ever fall for your strawman deflections moonie?

BTW- we all notice you were right here to defend the indefensible- sex with kids.
Very poorly of course but you attempted to do it anyway.
Why does it seem a little bare assed boy avatar is perfect for someone that is clearly in favor of sex with children?

You seem to be missing the point John.
The OP lied. The proposals by the UN had nothing to do with adults having sex with children.

You are the people who are obsessed with the notion of having sex with children, not progressives. You’re positively unhinged about it and it’s troubling.
 
Minors can't consent to something they aren't mentally, psychologically or even biologically prepared for.

Kids are easily duped, manipulated, or intimidated so getting them to agree to sex is insanely easy under one of those banners.

It's even easier as today's 16 year old has the intelligence and maturity of a 12 year old from 20 years ago. Kids today are even more impressionable, stupid and immature than ever.
 
For over 20 years I have been warning that they were coming for the children, that children were the end game of all this sexual normalizing of sexual deviancy.

We are now there.

Having already nearly normalized children being mutilated with the lies about transgenderism it was inevitable.


A new report from the United Nations has called for all forms of drug use and sexual activity to be decriminalized globally.
Written by the International Committee of Jurists (ICJ), UNAIDS and the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), the report was released on International Women’s Day, with the goal of guiding “the application of international human rights law to criminal law.” Called the “8 March principles,” the report calls for offenses related to “sex, drug use, HIV, sexual and reproductive health, homelessness and poverty” to be decriminalized.
The United Nations experts say that criminalizing offenses related to these issues constitute an attack on human rights.
“Criminal law is among the harshest of tools at the disposal of the State to exert control over individuals… as such, it ought to be a measure of last resort however, globally, there has been a growing trend towards overcriminalization,” Ian Seiderman, Law and Policy Director at ICJ, said in the press release. “We must acknowledge that these laws not only violate human rights, but the fundamental principles of criminal law themselves.”
While on the surface, it may seem relatively uncontroversial, the report calls for sex between adults and minors to be decriminalized, so long as the minors “consent”:
With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a non-discriminatory manner. Enforcement may not be linked to the sex/gender of participants or age of consent to marriage. Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual, in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them.
Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them, with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees.
Minors, of course, cannot truly consent to sex with an adult — something these so-called experts should know. The report also calls for all criminal laws relating to sex work to be abolished, which could easily serve to aid traffickers, pimps, and abusers. In turn, this serves the abortion industry as well, which has aided traffickers and abusers by failing to report suspected abuse and returning victims to their abusers after their abortions. Decriminalizing sex work, sex crimes against minors, and abortion would only serve to doubly suit traffickers and abusers, who are known to use abortion as a means to cover up their crimes.


Are you people really so fucking brain dead as to take this highly biased propaganda that misrepresents and in fact lies about the UN Report at face value, without bothering to look at the actual document. Is it your irrational hysteria about sexuality or hatred for the UN? Both I would guess.

The propaganda that you swallowed whole:

UN report calls for decriminalization of all sexual activity, including between adults and children (liveaction.org)

Live Action states While on the surface, it may seem relatively uncontroversial, the report calls for sex between adults and minors to be decriminalized, so long as the minors “consent”

The reality

New legal principles launched on International Women’s Day to advance decriminalization efforts | UNAIDS
From the above link:

“The ‘8 March principles’ as they are called lay out a human rights-based approach to laws criminalizing conduct in relation to sex, drug use, HIV, sexual and reproductive health, homelessness and poverty.
Ian Seiderman, Law and Policy Director at ICJ said, “Criminal law is among the harshest of tools at the disposal of the State to exert control over individuals...as such, it ought to be a measure of last resort however, globally, there has been a growing trend towards overcriminalization.”

Again.. that is not decriminalizing anything across the board.

Nowhere does it say ANYTHING about decriminalizing all sexual activity involving children or anything else. A human rights based approach to criminal law is not abolishing criminal penalties for some offenses. However that did not stop the propaganda rag, and you from screaming your lies

Here is the actual document which I am sure you have not read

8-MARCH-Principles-FINAL-printer-version-1-MARCH-2023.pdf (icj2.wpenginepowered.com)

Principal 16 Consensual sexual Conduct (In it’s entirety)
Consensual sexual conduct, irrespective of the type of sexual activity, the sex/ gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression of the people involved or their marital status, may not be criminalized in any circumstances. Consensual same-sex, as well as consensual different-sex sexual relations, or consensual sexual relations with or between trans, non-binary and other gender diverse people, or outside marriage – whether pre-marital or extramarital – may, therefore, never be criminalized. With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a non-discriminatory manner. Enforcement may not be linked to the sex/gender of participants or age of consent to marriage. Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them. Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them, with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees

Interestingly, Live Action cherry picked part of this section that is in bold, apparently thinking that it supports their claim that all sex with minors will be decriminalized as long as the minor consents Either the publisher is stupid enough to think that it actually supports that claim, or they know that readers, like YOU will believe that it does. The fact is that it absolutely DOES NOT mean that any child can consent to sex with an adult. It does however recognize the reality that a person magically goes from not being able to consent to being able to give consent the moment that they become 18 . Rather it recognizes individual and circumstances In any case, it is clear that there is no intent to absolves an adult of responsibility, Including criminal liability if a minor is exploited or harmed in any way.

Taken as a whole Principal 16 as well as other section empowers minors and all people to take control of their sexuality and their body

Now do you want to talk about who is really “coming” for the children? I will tell you who. It is conservatives in shit hole red states:

End Child Marriage and Sex Abuse in the United States | Child USA
CHILD USA considers “child marriage” to be a form of “forced marriage,” as minors are legally incapable of providing consent. CHILD USA defines “child marriage” as a formal marriage or informal union where one or both parties is under the age of eighteen. Today, the global rates of child marriage are high. According to UNICEF, approximately twelve million girls — or one in five — across the world are married before their eighteenth birthday each year. In the United States, child marriage is a pervasive issue with devastating domestic consequences. Between 2000 and 2018, almost 300,000 children were married in the United States alone, with approximately 30,000 to 60,000 of those marriages occurring at a spousal age difference that should have been considered a sex crime.

Because there is no federal law regulating child marriage, states are free to establish their own requirements. Child marriage remains legal or unchecked in 46 states. While most states do impose a minimum marriage age, the majority of them set that age at under 18. Additionally, the majority do not require marriage applicants to furnish official proof of their age, which allows many underage children to slip through the cracks. Other states permit the practice to continue through parental, judicial, religious, or pregnancy exceptions. Only four states — Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, and Rhode Island — have banned child marriage outright by requiring that both parties provide official proof that they are 18 years or older before they can obtain a marriage license.
Child marriage is a gendered practice with grave social, financial, physical, and psychological consequences. The United States Department of State has called marriage before 18 a “humans rights abuse” that “produces devastating repercussions for a girl’s life, effectively ending her childhood.” To protect children and secure their futures, the practice of child marriage must be outlawed. The movement to end child marriage and sex abuse in the United States is growing, and CHILD USA is dedicated to reforming the laws to ensure children are not married before the age of 18.
 
Are you people really so fucking brain dead as to take this highly biased propaganda that misrepresents and in fact lies about the UN Report at face value, without bothering to look at the actual document. Is it your irrational hysteria about sexuality or hatred for the UN? Both I would guess.

The propaganda that you swallowed whole:

UN report calls for decriminalization of all sexual activity, including between adults and children (liveaction.org)

Live Action states While on the surface, it may seem relatively uncontroversial, the report calls for sex between adults and minors to be decriminalized, so long as the minors “consent”

The reality

New legal principles launched on International Women’s Day to advance decriminalization efforts | UNAIDS
From the above link:

“The ‘8 March principles’ as they are called lay out a human rights-based approach to laws criminalizing conduct in relation to sex, drug use, HIV, sexual and reproductive health, homelessness and poverty.
Ian Seiderman, Law and Policy Director at ICJ said, “Criminal law is among the harshest of tools at the disposal of the State to exert control over individuals...as such, it ought to be a measure of last resort however, globally, there has been a growing trend towards overcriminalization.”

Again.. that is not decriminalizing anything across the board.

Nowhere does it say ANYTHING about decriminalizing all sexual activity involving children or anything else. A human rights based approach to criminal law is not abolishing criminal penalties for some offenses. However that did not stop the propaganda rag, and you from screaming your lies

Here is the actual document which I am sure you have not read

8-MARCH-Principles-FINAL-printer-version-1-MARCH-2023.pdf (icj2.wpenginepowered.com)

Principal 16 Consensual sexual Conduct (In it’s entirety)
Consensual sexual conduct, irrespective of the type of sexual activity, the sex/ gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression of the people involved or their marital status, may not be criminalized in any circumstances. Consensual same-sex, as well as consensual different-sex sexual relations, or consensual sexual relations with or between trans, non-binary and other gender diverse people, or outside marriage – whether pre-marital or extramarital – may, therefore, never be criminalized. With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a non-discriminatory manner. Enforcement may not be linked to the sex/gender of participants or age of consent to marriage. Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them. Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them, with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees

Interestingly, Live Action cherry picked part of this section that is in bold, apparently thinking that it supports their claim that all sex with minors will be decriminalized as long as the minor consents Either the publisher is stupid enough to think that it actually supports that claim, or they know that readers, like YOU will believe that it does. The fact is that it absolutely DOES NOT mean that any child can consent to sex with an adult. It does however recognize the reality that a person magically goes from not being able to consent to being able to give consent the moment that they become 18 . Rather it recognizes individual and circumstances In any case, it is clear that there is no intent to absolves an adult of responsibility, Including criminal liability if a minor is exploited or harmed in any way.

Taken as a whole Principal 16 as well as other section empowers minors and all people to take control of their sexuality and their body

Now do you want to talk about who is really “coming” for the children? I will tell you who. It is conservatives in shit hole red states:

End Child Marriage and Sex Abuse in the United States | Child USA
CHILD USA considers “child marriage” to be a form of “forced marriage,” as minors are legally incapable of providing consent. CHILD USA defines “child marriage” as a formal marriage or informal union where one or both parties is under the age of eighteen. Today, the global rates of child marriage are high. According to UNICEF, approximately twelve million girls — or one in five — across the world are married before their eighteenth birthday each year. In the United States, child marriage is a pervasive issue with devastating domestic consequences. Between 2000 and 2018, almost 300,000 children were married in the United States alone, with approximately 30,000 to 60,000 of those marriages occurring at a spousal age difference that should have been considered a sex crime.

Because there is no federal law regulating child marriage, states are free to establish their own requirements. Child marriage remains legal or unchecked in 46 states. While most states do impose a minimum marriage age, the majority of them set that age at under 18. Additionally, the majority do not require marriage applicants to furnish official proof of their age, which allows many underage children to slip through the cracks. Other states permit the practice to continue through parental, judicial, religious, or pregnancy exceptions. Only four states — Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, and Rhode Island — have banned child marriage outright by requiring that both parties provide official proof that they are 18 years or older before they can obtain a marriage license.
Child marriage is a gendered practice with grave social, financial, physical, and psychological consequences. The United States Department of State has called marriage before 18 a “humans rights abuse” that “produces devastating repercussions for a girl’s life, effectively ending her childhood.” To protect children and secure their futures, the practice of child marriage must be outlawed. The movement to end child marriage and sex abuse in the United States is growing, and CHILD USA is dedicated to reforming the laws to ensure children are not married before the age of 18.
Democommies consider Pedo /NAMBLA types “ Just Another Alternative Lifestyle”
 
Are you people really so fucking brain dead as to take this highly biased propaganda that misrepresents and in fact lies about the UN Report at face value, without bothering to look at the actual document. Is it your irrational hysteria about sexuality or hatred for the UN? Both I would guess.

The propaganda that you swallowed whole:

UN report calls for decriminalization of all sexual activity, including between adults and children (liveaction.org)

Live Action states While on the surface, it may seem relatively uncontroversial, the report calls for sex between adults and minors to be decriminalized, so long as the minors “consent”

The reality

New legal principles launched on International Women’s Day to advance decriminalization efforts | UNAIDS
From the above link:

“The ‘8 March principles’ as they are called lay out a human rights-based approach to laws criminalizing conduct in relation to sex, drug use, HIV, sexual and reproductive health, homelessness and poverty.
Ian Seiderman, Law and Policy Director at ICJ said, “Criminal law is among the harshest of tools at the disposal of the State to exert control over individuals...as such, it ought to be a measure of last resort however, globally, there has been a growing trend towards overcriminalization.”

Again.. that is not decriminalizing anything across the board.

Nowhere does it say ANYTHING about decriminalizing all sexual activity involving children or anything else. A human rights based approach to criminal law is not abolishing criminal penalties for some offenses. However that did not stop the propaganda rag, and you from screaming your lies

Here is the actual document which I am sure you have not read

8-MARCH-Principles-FINAL-printer-version-1-MARCH-2023.pdf (icj2.wpenginepowered.com)

Principal 16 Consensual sexual Conduct (In it’s entirety)
Consensual sexual conduct, irrespective of the type of sexual activity, the sex/ gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression of the people involved or their marital status, may not be criminalized in any circumstances. Consensual same-sex, as well as consensual different-sex sexual relations, or consensual sexual relations with or between trans, non-binary and other gender diverse people, or outside marriage – whether pre-marital or extramarital – may, therefore, never be criminalized. With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a non-discriminatory manner. Enforcement may not be linked to the sex/gender of participants or age of consent to marriage. Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them. Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them, with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees

Interestingly, Live Action cherry picked part of this section that is in bold, apparently thinking that it supports their claim that all sex with minors will be decriminalized as long as the minor consents Either the publisher is stupid enough to think that it actually supports that claim, or they know that readers, like YOU will believe that it does. The fact is that it absolutely DOES NOT mean that any child can consent to sex with an adult. It does however recognize the reality that a person magically goes from not being able to consent to being able to give consent the moment that they become 18 . Rather it recognizes individual and circumstances In any case, it is clear that there is no intent to absolves an adult of responsibility, Including criminal liability if a minor is exploited or harmed in any way.

Taken as a whole Principal 16 as well as other section empowers minors and all people to take control of their sexuality and their body

Now do you want to talk about who is really “coming” for the children? I will tell you who. It is conservatives in shit hole red states:

End Child Marriage and Sex Abuse in the United States | Child USA
CHILD USA considers “child marriage” to be a form of “forced marriage,” as minors are legally incapable of providing consent. CHILD USA defines “child marriage” as a formal marriage or informal union where one or both parties is under the age of eighteen. Today, the global rates of child marriage are high. According to UNICEF, approximately twelve million girls — or one in five — across the world are married before their eighteenth birthday each year. In the United States, child marriage is a pervasive issue with devastating domestic consequences. Between 2000 and 2018, almost 300,000 children were married in the United States alone, with approximately 30,000 to 60,000 of those marriages occurring at a spousal age difference that should have been considered a sex crime.

Because there is no federal law regulating child marriage, states are free to establish their own requirements. Child marriage remains legal or unchecked in 46 states. While most states do impose a minimum marriage age, the majority of them set that age at under 18. Additionally, the majority do not require marriage applicants to furnish official proof of their age, which allows many underage children to slip through the cracks. Other states permit the practice to continue through parental, judicial, religious, or pregnancy exceptions. Only four states — Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, and Rhode Island — have banned child marriage outright by requiring that both parties provide official proof that they are 18 years or older before they can obtain a marriage license.
Child marriage is a gendered practice with grave social, financial, physical, and psychological consequences. The United States Department of State has called marriage before 18 a “humans rights abuse” that “produces devastating repercussions for a girl’s life, effectively ending her childhood.” To protect children and secure their futures, the practice of child marriage must be outlawed. The movement to end child marriage and sex abuse in the United States is growing, and CHILD USA is dedicated to reforming the laws to ensure children are not married before the age of 18.

:cuckoo:
 
You seem to be missing the point John.
The OP lied. The proposals by the UN had nothing to do with adults having sex with children.

You are the people who are obsessed with the notion of having sex with children, not progressives. You’re positively unhinged about it and it’s troubling.
Troubling to not want kids molested? What an asshole you are. You just admitted no liberal cares about protecting kids. Tells us all we need to know.
 
No, YOU grow the fuck up you defender of sick deviant perverts. Your are an asshole defending this shit so quit crying when you get called out for your own stated stance.
I am not defending anyone just the actual wording of the principles, you stupid bitches can flail around like yer head's on fire and yer asses are catching with yer witch trials and fake-ass ideology of making innocent people guilty. Grow the fuck up and discuss the actual subject and not yer echo chamber rhetoric..
 
I am not defending anyone just the actual wording of the principles, you stupid bitches can flail around like yer head's on fire and yer asses are catching with yer witch trials and fake-ass ideology of making innocent people guilty. Grow the fuck up and discuss the actual subject and not yer echo chamber rhetoric..
Fuck you you defender of sick perverts. Grow the fuck up and own your own stated position. Being the cowardly, stupid indoctrinated bitch you are you won’t. We protect kids. We see what you want.
 
Are you people really so fucking brain dead as to take this highly biased propaganda that misrepresents and in fact lies about the UN Report at face value, without bothering to look at the actual document. Is it your irrational hysteria about sexuality or hatred for the UN? Both I would guess.

The propaganda that you swallowed whole:

UN report calls for decriminalization of all sexual activity, including between adults and children (liveaction.org)

Live Action states While on the surface, it may seem relatively uncontroversial, the report calls for sex between adults and minors to be decriminalized, so long as the minors “consent”

The reality

New legal principles launched on International Women’s Day to advance decriminalization efforts | UNAIDS
From the above link:

“The ‘8 March principles’ as they are called lay out a human rights-based approach to laws criminalizing conduct in relation to sex, drug use, HIV, sexual and reproductive health, homelessness and poverty.
Ian Seiderman, Law and Policy Director at ICJ said, “Criminal law is among the harshest of tools at the disposal of the State to exert control over individuals...as such, it ought to be a measure of last resort however, globally, there has been a growing trend towards overcriminalization.”

Again.. that is not decriminalizing anything across the board.

Nowhere does it say ANYTHING about decriminalizing all sexual activity involving children or anything else. A human rights based approach to criminal law is not abolishing criminal penalties for some offenses. However that did not stop the propaganda rag, and you from screaming your lies

Here is the actual document which I am sure you have not read

8-MARCH-Principles-FINAL-printer-version-1-MARCH-2023.pdf (icj2.wpenginepowered.com)

Principal 16 Consensual sexual Conduct (In it’s entirety)
Consensual sexual conduct, irrespective of the type of sexual activity, the sex/ gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression of the people involved or their marital status, may not be criminalized in any circumstances. Consensual same-sex, as well as consensual different-sex sexual relations, or consensual sexual relations with or between trans, non-binary and other gender diverse people, or outside marriage – whether pre-marital or extramarital – may, therefore, never be criminalized. With respect to the enforcement of criminal law, any prescribed minimum age of consent to sex must be applied in a non-discriminatory manner. Enforcement may not be linked to the sex/gender of participants or age of consent to marriage. Moreover, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them. Pursuant to their evolving capacities and progressive autonomy, persons under 18 years of age should participate in decisions affecting them, with due regard to their age, maturity and best interests, and with specific attention to non-discrimination guarantees

Interestingly, Live Action cherry picked part of this section that is in bold, apparently thinking that it supports their claim that all sex with minors will be decriminalized as long as the minor consents Either the publisher is stupid enough to think that it actually supports that claim, or they know that readers, like YOU will believe that it does. The fact is that it absolutely DOES NOT mean that any child can consent to sex with an adult. It does however recognize the reality that a person magically goes from not being able to consent to being able to give consent the moment that they become 18 . Rather it recognizes individual and circumstances In any case, it is clear that there is no intent to absolves an adult of responsibility, Including criminal liability if a minor is exploited or harmed in any way.

Taken as a whole Principal 16 as well as other section empowers minors and all people to take control of their sexuality and their body

Now do you want to talk about who is really “coming” for the children? I will tell you who. It is conservatives in shit hole red states:

End Child Marriage and Sex Abuse in the United States | Child USA
CHILD USA considers “child marriage” to be a form of “forced marriage,” as minors are legally incapable of providing consent. CHILD USA defines “child marriage” as a formal marriage or informal union where one or both parties is under the age of eighteen. Today, the global rates of child marriage are high. According to UNICEF, approximately twelve million girls — or one in five — across the world are married before their eighteenth birthday each year. In the United States, child marriage is a pervasive issue with devastating domestic consequences. Between 2000 and 2018, almost 300,000 children were married in the United States alone, with approximately 30,000 to 60,000 of those marriages occurring at a spousal age difference that should have been considered a sex crime.

Because there is no federal law regulating child marriage, states are free to establish their own requirements. Child marriage remains legal or unchecked in 46 states. While most states do impose a minimum marriage age, the majority of them set that age at under 18. Additionally, the majority do not require marriage applicants to furnish official proof of their age, which allows many underage children to slip through the cracks. Other states permit the practice to continue through parental, judicial, religious, or pregnancy exceptions. Only four states — Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, and Rhode Island — have banned child marriage outright by requiring that both parties provide official proof that they are 18 years or older before they can obtain a marriage license.
Child marriage is a gendered practice with grave social, financial, physical, and psychological consequences. The United States Department of State has called marriage before 18 a “humans rights abuse” that “produces devastating repercussions for a girl’s life, effectively ending her childhood.” To protect children and secure their futures, the practice of child marriage must be outlawed. The movement to end child marriage and sex abuse in the United States is growing, and CHILD USA is dedicated to reforming the laws to ensure children are not married before the age of 18.
You sure have a way with words. Very impressed with how you can articulate you objections so eloquently
 

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