Ukraine will push Russia back to pre-invasion borders by New Year

[toomuchtime_]

Ukraine will push Russia back to its pre-invasion border by the end of the year and retake Crimea next summer, a retired US general has predicted.

Ben Hodges, former commander of US forces in Europe, believes Ukraine is capable of re-taking thousands of square miles of territory in the south and east within the next two months before pushing into Crimea - the crown jewel of Putin's 2014 war.

General Hodges, speaking in Westminster on Monday at an event hosted by the Council on Geostrategy, admitted his vision is 'optimistic' but confidently predicted that 'Ukraine will win.'


In the meantime, he expects Putin to continue shelling Ukrainian power plants and cities with the aim of driving 'hundreds of thousands of refugees' into Europe with the aim of breaking Western support.

He said: 'It is too early to plan victory parades, there is still months and months of hard fighting ahead, Russia will continue to kill innocent Ukrainian civilians, but there is no doubt in my mind that Ukraine has achieved irreversible momentum.

'Thousands of years of war has taught us that war is a test of will, and it is a test of logistics...

'It is indisputable that Ukrainian soldiers have superior will over the Russian soldiers... [and] it is clear that after eight or nine months of war Russia's logistical system is on the verge of collapse.'

Ukraine 'will push Russia back to pre-invasion borders by New Year'

Ben Hodges, the former commander of US forces in Europe, believes Ukraine is capable of re-taking thousands of square miles of territory in the south and east within the next two months.

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Eight months ago, hardly anyone thought Ukraine could win this war, but now hardly anyone doubts it. The only real dispute is about how long it will take.

 

[toobfreak]

Ukraine will push Russia back to pre-invasion borders by New Year​

When do they start doing it with their own weapons and money?

there is still months and months of hard fighting ahead, Eight months ago, hardly anyone thought Ukraine could win this war, but now hardly anyone doubts it.

Anything is possible when you have one country (Russia) now essentially fighting against the rest of the planet! I just want to know when Zelensky reimburses me my 70 billion dollars?

 

[Sunni Man]

That's like the best OP sci-fi satire post I've read all year!! ...

 

[toomuchtime_]

When do they start doing it with their own weapons and money?


Anything is possible when you have one country (Russia) now essentially fighting against the rest of the planet! I just want to know when Zelensky reimburses me my 70 billion dollars?

Russia is fighting Ukrainian soldiers partially armed by western allies just as Russia is partially armed by North Korea and Iran. If Russia were fighting NATO or the US Russian soldiers in Ukraine would have been wiped out in the first week of the war.

 

[José]

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"It is too early to plan victory parades, there is still months and months of hard fighting ahead, Russia will continue to kill innocent Ukrainian civilians, but there is no doubt in my mind that Ukraine has achieved irreversible momentum."

I wouldn't call Hodges' prediction a fairy tale, sunni. It all depends on Russia's willingness to do what it takes to win the war.

Let's remember that the serbian army wasn't defeated in Kosovo because there was no ground invasion. NATO won the war without risking the lives of its soldiers because it managed to put enough pressure on Milosevic by destroying Serbia's infrastructure.

This is definitely a possibility in Ukraine.

If Russia decides to really take her gloves off, Hodges will have to rewrite the bolded line above:

"Russia will continue to freeze and starve Ukrainian civilians until Zelensky raises the white flag."

 

[toomuchtime_]

I wouldn't call Hodges' prediction a fairy tale, sunni. It all depends on Russia's willingness to do what it takes to win the war.

Let's remember that the serbian army wasn't defeated in Kosovo because there was no ground invasion. NATO won the war without risking the lives of its soldiers because it managed to put enough pressure on Milosevic by destroying Serbia's infrastructure.

This is definitely a possibility in Ukraine.

If Russia decides to really take her gloves off, Hodges will have to rewrite the bolded line above:

"Russia will continue to freeze and starve Ukrainian civilians until Zelensky raises the white flag."

"Russia will continue to freeze and starve Ukrainian civilians until Zelensky raises the white flag."

That is what the Kremlin has been reduced to since its ground forces are in steady retreat from the AFU, but despite Russia's best efforts to kill large numbers of Ukrainians, relatively few are being killed by the Russian bombs and the others are neither starving nor freezing but are merely inconvenienced. Ukraine has been able to restore the damage to essential infrastructure within a few days.

Meanwhile, Russian troops are protesting because Russia is unable to pay their salaries. It is likely it will be Russian troops who will be starving and freezing in Ukraine this winter. By spring, the last vestiges of he Russian occupation will be gone, and whoever is running Russia by then will be more concerned with internal turmoil than foreign conquest.

 

[Sunni Man]

Listen and learn....

 

[toomuchtime_]

Listen and learn....

Now we can all see why he did not make general.

 

[Sunni Man]

Now we can all see why he did not make general.

Actually, Col. MacGregor had vehemently disagreed with with his superior officer Gen. David Petreaus over the Afghan war.
Gen. Petraeus wanted to stay in Afghanistan and keep fighting until we won the war.
Col. MacGregor told him that we had already lost the war and it was time to withdraw our military from Afghanistan.
By making that statement, Col. MacGregor's military career was over and he soon retired.
Years later the U.S. disgracefully fled Afghanistan in the middle of the night..

 

[toomuchtime_]

Actually, Col. MacGregor vehemently disagreed with with his superior officer Gen. David Petreaus over the Afghan war.
Gen. Petraeus wanted to stay in Afghanistan and keep fighting until we won the war.
Col. MacGregor told him that we had already lost the war and it was time to withdraw our military from Afghanistan.
By making that statement, Col. MacGregor's military career was over and he soon retired.
Years later the U.S. disgracefully fled Afghanistan in the middle of the night..

Patraus was in command of US forces in Afghanistan for one year, 2010-2011, and by then the war was over and the US was engaged in nation building. The fact that, according to you, MacGregor did not understand the difference between war and nation building explains why he was passed over for promotion.

 

[Sunni Man]

Patraus was in command of US forces in Afghanistan for one year, 2010-2011, and by then the war was over and the US was engaged in nation building.

So bombing and droning Afghan citizens was nation building? ..

 

[toobfreak]

Russia is fighting Ukrainian soldiers partially armed by western allies just as Russia is partially armed by North Korea and Iran.

Pleeeeaze-- -- Russia is the largest country in the world getting a little backing from others while the USA and Europe cuts off their banking and trade and all kinds of things to starve them as tiny Ukraine is a nothingburger, the 44th largest country in the world who would have been smashed like a bug 8 months ago if not for a MASSIVE infusion of the most advanced weapons from air, land and sea shipped there from a whole flotilla of other countries backing them, combined with a massive inflow of cash, food and training coming in from NATO.

If Russia were fighting NATO or the US Russian soldiers in Ukraine would have been wiped out in the first week of the war.

Yep, those tough ol' nations like the USA who couldn't beat the Taliban camel thumpers wearing rags and towels even after 20 years of war nor could even pull out without getting their asses kicked and the NATO countries who haven't won a war in 100 years on their own who can't even stop migrants from the Middle East from taking over their countries!

 

[The Duke]

Pleeeeaze-- -- Russia is the largest country in the world getting a little backing from others while the USA and Europe cuts off their banking and trade and all kinds of things to starve them as tiny Ukraine is a nothingburger, the 44th largest country in the world who would have been smashed like a bug 8 months ago if not for a MASSIVE infusion of the most advanced weapons from air, land and sea shipped there from a whole flotilla of other countries backing them, combined with a massive inflow of cash, food and training coming in from NATO.


Yep, those tough ol' nations like the USA who couldn't beat the Taliban camel thumpers wearing rags and towels even after 20 years of war nor could even pull out without getting their asses kicked and the NATO countries who haven't won a war in 100 years on their own who can't even stop migrants from the Middle East from taking over their countries!

To be fair, The Taliban kicked Russia's ass worse.

Actually the withdrawal could have gone smoothly but Biden fucked it all up because of his ignorance and arrogance.

He got a lot of people killed for his fuckin' ego. And then his ego took a large hit, too.

 

[toobfreak]

To be fair, The Taliban kicked Russia's ass worse.

Just goes to prove that there is a lot to say about a well-entrenched army. You don't need nukes and F-15s to beat us or Russians after all, just resolve and a lot of backing.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Pleeeeaze-- -- Russia is the largest country in the world getting a little backing from others while the USA and Europe cuts off their banking and trade and all kinds of things to starve them as tiny Ukraine is a nothingburger, the 44th largest country in the world who would have been smashed like a bug 8 months ago if not for a MASSIVE infusion of the most advanced weapons from air, land and sea shipped there from a whole flotilla of other countries backing them, combined with a massive inflow of cash, food and training coming in from NATO.


Yep, those tough ol' nations like the USA who couldn't beat the Taliban camel thumpers wearing rags and towels even after 20 years of war nor could even pull out without getting their asses kicked and the NATO countries who haven't won a war in 100 years on their own who can't even stop migrants from the Middle East from taking over their countries!

While Ukraine could not win this war without all this help from western allies, it is not at all clear Russia could have defeated Ukraine even if the west had not sent so many weapons. Consider the initial attempt to take Kyiv at the beginning of the war was a shocking failure before Ukraine had many western weapons other than anti-tank weapons, and Russia's inability to solve its logistics problems meant Russia could not sustain an occupation army very far from its border. So the war clearly was unwinnable by Russia from the start.

Since the UAF is able to put the Russian army on the rum with just a few advanced artillery pieces, imagine wat the US could do with its full arsenal of weapons. Russia is not a great power. The USSR was, but Putin has demonstrated Russia clearly is not.

 

[toobfreak]

Russia is not a great power. The USSR was, but Putin has demonstrated Russia clearly is not.

Well, no, obviously. That has to be the main reason why Russia is trying to get Ukraine back.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Well, no, obviously. That has to be the main reason why Russia is trying to get Ukraine back.

The main reason is that Putin thought it would be easy, so easy that he never bothered to update his intelligence on Ukraine before invading. If Putin had been even vaguely competent, he would have realized what a terrible idea this invasion was and how grossly incompetent his military and intelligence leaders were.

Since 2014 the Ukrainians had been preparing for the next Russian invasion, sending their officers to the US and probably elsewhere to study military tactics and strategy and searching for weapons wherever they could find them. So when the Russians attacked the AFU was week trained and well organized and sufficiently armed to send the Russians scurrying back from Kyiv toward the Russian border.

 

[AlexanderPK]

Now we can all see why he did not make general.

Because he's not stupid a bootlicker like your phony General Hodges is.
I'm surprised they haven't found a grandma whom he sexually harassed in kindergarten, when he was still young and feisty.

 

[Baron]

Ukraine will push Russia back to its pre-invasion border by the end of the year and retake Crimea next summer, a retired US general has predicted.

 

[badger2]

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