so you're admitting russia into nato.
B/c that's all that's going to be left of ukraine
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Ukraine in NATO?!
- Thread starter jwoodie
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B/c that's all that's going to be left of ukraine
Do you doubt Nato will fund an insurgency in a Russian occupied Ukraine?so you're admitting russia into nato.
B/c that's all that's going to be left of ukraine
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so you're admitting russia into nato.
B/c that's all that's going to be left of ukraine
Hasn’t worked out so well for Russia so far has it?
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MAD doesn't work when only one side believes in it...1. So what is the right answer? Give Putin Ukraine so he has even more revenue to develop weapons with.
Which country would be next?
2. A nuclear war has no winners. Putin should be smart enough to know that. If he isn't his generals are. Its really not a threat, MAD has worked because it works.
No
1. Putin will not use nuclear weapons. There is no way to win with that chess move. Putin can't technically "lose", the worst he can get is a "draw" if Ukraine keeps the stalemate, aka "zungzwang". All Putin is doing is burning cash and soldiers.There has to be a deal made between the two nations... let me tell you something... Putin will not hesitate to use nukes if he thinks he is about to lose... he doesn't care...
Biden never even tried to talk to him... never sent a team over... he invited the war to start...
There are some areas in Ukraine where Russian people live... they do business with Russia... that signals to me a deal was possible at one time... lets hope and pray it still is...
2. Biden is no president.Senators are "orators", aka bullshit artists. Like Jeff Sessions was way over his head trying to run the DOJ. Senators have no real management experience. Biden is a disaster.
3. True there are Russian speaking areas of Ukraine, Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea, they could be what Ukraine gives for peace, the Russian speaking regions, and in return Ukraine is admitted to NATO to protect their sovereignty legally, instead of the bullshit promises made with the Budapest Memorandum.
2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine - Wikipedia
Bullshit. Russians are fleeing to avoid going into the army and getting slaughtered.I don't see Putin "settling" for that. He cannot really. He's promised russians a return to superpower status.
Like Putin is worried about "the people".
Taking Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk is a win. Take the win. Its better than pushing a very unpopular war.
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Putin doesn't care... if he loses his life is over so he will not just roll over.... don't allow anyone to convince you otherwise....1. Putin will not use nuclear weapons. There is no way to win with that chess move. Putin can't technically "lose", the worst he can get is a "draw" if Ukraine keeps the stalemate, aka "zungzwang". All Putin is doing is burning cash and soldiers.
2. Biden is no president.Senators are "orators", aka bullshit artists. Like Jeff Sessions was way over his head trying to run the DOJ. Senators have no real management experience. Biden is a disaster.
3. True there are Russian speaking areas of Ukraine, Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea, they could be what Ukraine gives for peace, the Russian speaking regions, and in return Ukraine is admitted to NATO to protect their sovereignty legally, instead of the bullshit promises made with the Budapest Memorandum.
View attachment 9128572014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine - Wikipedia
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This isn't a movie its real and a lot of people will die as well as huge areas of Europe that would be unlivable for years...
1. Putin doesn't have enough military to defeat Ukraine. he does not want to test NATO.Biden was pretty cavalier, imo, even with US troops before Beau caught cancer after being near burn pits. So's Obama for that matter, but he did end combat in Iraq. The Shia won. The Sunni became Isis. And the US lost it's way and fortune.
But I agree with you that Biden simply used Ukraine to bleed Russia, and with luck we'll steal their money and give it to Ukraine. Putin wanted to carve out Moldova and move to try Nato's backbone on the baltics. I mean, Maga can't even debate that because Putin's stooge Medvedev repeated it yesterday, but they'll lie like Putin.
2. Explain your last sentence, it makes no sense, got a link?
It's like taking out life insurance while you are on life support. Let the old nazis deal with their own defense.
Which side? That makes no sense. If nukes are launched by either side only the cockroaches win.MAD doesn't work when only one side believes in it...
Putin is one of the richest men in the world.Putin doesn't care... if he loses his life is over so he will not just roll over.... don't allow anyone to convince you otherwise....
This isn't a movie its real and a lot of people will die as well as huge areas of Europe that would be unlivable for years...
Have you seen his girlfriend?
Putin has a secret brood of children being raised in luxury comparable to Russian tsars, report claims
Putin hides his children in a 13,000-square-feet mansion in Valdai, Russia, that boasts a huge spa complex and a karting track, Proekt reported.
www.businessinsider.com
...and what would happen to Russia?Putin doesn't care... if he loses his life is over so he will not just roll over.... don't allow anyone to convince you otherwise....
This isn't a movie its real and a lot of people will die as well as huge areas of Europe that would be unlivable for years...
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So what?...Putin is one of the richest men in the world.
Have you seen his girlfriend?
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Putin has a secret brood of children being raised in luxury comparable to Russian tsars, report claims
Putin hides his children in a 13,000-square-feet mansion in Valdai, Russia, that boasts a huge spa complex and a karting track, Proekt reported.
So do you think he wants to kill them with nuclear fallout? Yes or no?So what?...
He can walk away and never need for anything, ever.
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Gone.... and with the proximity to China and Iran you know they would join in......and what would happen to Russia?
BluesLegend
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The latest war, between a bunch of morons who have been killing each other for the past 2,000 years...that's gonna be a NO!
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I don't think he cares about his people... despots usually don't... kind of like Biden....So do you think he wants to kill them with nuclear fallout? Yes or no?
He can walk away and never need for anything, ever.
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