UFO Sightings on the Rise - Pentagon.

[Fort Fun Indiana]

At one time there was no 'good evidence' for many many MANY things that turned out to be realities.

So what? That would just make the delusional people "correct" for the wrong reasons.
If you get the right answer in a math problem but get it the wrong way, you still fail the math quiz.

And you have basically admitted that your belief still belongs on the same shelf as any other unevidenced belief. We calm this "faith".

The fact that there are so many unexplained sightings and experiences reported by people who are not given to making up stories or lying--people who have no reason to lie--is sufficient 'evidence' to keep an open mind about it.

Nonsense,, for two good reasons.

A billion honest people believe mohammed rode a winged horse to heaven.

Billions more swear they have personally talked to Gods.

Second, the fact that there are so few sightings on a planet cycling through 3 billion new people every 10 years -- a third of them with cell phones -- only highlights thr paucity of evidence and even of anecdotal accounts. The information you give as a reason to note a higher probability is actually a strong reason to assign it as even less likely than before taking into account that information.

"so many unexplained sightings..."

You have that backwards. That's an astounding LOW number of sightings, on a planet of 8 billion people.

 

[BothWings]

It's cute how they innocently announce it like it has nothing to do with them.

It's a weather balloon!
No it's E.T.!
No, it's...
Well, anyway....it's not US!

(Yeah, suuuuurrre it's not)

 

[Foxfyre]

So what? That would just make the delusional people "correct" for the wrong reasons.
If you get the right answer in a math problem but get it the wrong way, you still fail the math quiz.

And you have basically admitted that your belief still belongs on the same shelf as any other unevidenced belief. We calm this "faith".

Nonsense,, for two good reasons.

A billion honest people believe mohammed rode a winged horse to heaven.

Billions more swear they have personally talked to Gods.

Second, the fact that there are so few sightings on a planet cycling through 3 billion new people every 10 years -- a third of them with cell phones -- only highlights thr paucity of evidence and even of anecdotal accounts. The information you give as a reason to note a higher probability is actually a strong reason to assign it as even less likely than before taking into account that information.

"so many unexplained sightings..."

You have that backwards. That's an astounding LOW number of sightings, on a planet of 8 billion people.

Again a closed mind will rarely ever know what the whole truth is re much of anything.

And why should it matter how one arrives at the correct answer so long as he/she knows how to get there?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And why should it matter how one arrives at the correct answer so long as he/she knows how to get there?

Obviously, because your flawed method will only give you correct answers by a stroke of luck. What an absurd question.

I am totally open minded to the existence of intelligent aliens. But there is no good evidence to suggest any have ever visited us. Not one single shred.

Being open minded does not mean accepting belief on bad evidence. In fact, that's closed mindedness. So you are more guilty of that of which you accuse me. By a long shot.

 

[Stryder50]

UFO sightings on the rise – Pentagon

The Pentagon has registered more than 360 UFO sightings just in the past two years, according to a new report

www.rt.com

Does anybody believe in these UFO's being extraterrestrials?
Mainstream science isn't convinced and state valid reasons why not.

Then what is causing an increase in sightings? Mental health professionals have a theory to explain that too.
Note that the one pictured is the traditional model from the 50's with the viewing window on the top. Or does it look more like a big bird?

Unless there's been a change, the only image in your link is a solid black pointed oval which lacks much in detail.
Where did you get this "viewing window on top" idea?

Also, for 80+ years there have been thousands if not tens of thousands of sightings around the world. Many would fall in the misidentified category. Some likely fall into the advanced research projects category, many more remain "unidentified" for lack of sufficient information and details, and some might be non-terrestrial in origin.

Trying to make a broad answer on such a variety of sightings and events is doomed from the start to be far from inclusive or accurate.

 

[Stryder50]

Did you see the link with DeGrasse Tyson? With millions of people with phone cameras, all they have is a blurred image as shown. Nahhhhhhh!

Before cell phone cameras there were as many or more reports.

It's not that people have seen them, it's more like millions of people just want to believe.

Then if the photos look too good and show sharp detail they are said to be photo-shopped or some similar alteration.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Then if the photos look too good and show sharp detail they are said to be photo-shopped or some similar alteration.

Of course, as that's by far the most reasonable position, given the paucity of evidence.

If you took a picture of a robin in a tree, nobody would conclude it was likely photoshopped.

 

[Stryder50]

sure, imagine a culture a million years advanced of humans

what would their purpose be in visiting us?

~S~

Who says(proves) they are a million years in advance of humans?
Given growth of human knowledge and technology of past century and a half, "They" might only need to be a few decades to couple of centuries beyond us.

 

[JustAGuy1]

UFO sightings on the rise – Pentagon

The Pentagon has registered more than 360 UFO sightings just in the past two years, according to a new report

www.rt.com

Does anybody believe in these UFO's being extraterrestrials?
Mainstream science isn't convinced and state valid reasons why not.

Then what is causing an increase in sightings? Mental health professionals have a theory to explain that too.
Note that the one pictured is the traditional model from the 50's with the viewing window on the top. Or does it look more like a big bird?

They're real. I've seen 2. They do things that are not humanly possible.

 

[Stryder50]

Of course, as that's by far the most reasonable position, given the paucity of evidence.

If you took a picture of a robin in a tree, nobody would conclude it was likely photoshopped.

Robins have been around for a long time and often enough some one had one in hand, dead body, etc. Now if the robin had fangs or was swinging a sword, then maybe photo-shop is in play.
Don't confuse evidence with proof.
Those whom don't want to accept that there may be E.T. visitors will go to any extreme to support their doubting beliefs.
EDIT:
A better example comes from history.
For centuries the Giant Panda was known in China, but reports of this black and white vegetarian "bear" were doubted in the West. Until;
...
The West first learned of the giant panda on 11 March 1869, when the French missionary Armand David[17] received a skin from a hunter. The first Westerner known to have seen a living giant panda is the German zoologist Hugo Weigold, who purchased a cub in 1916. Kermit and Theodore Roosevelt, Jr., became the first Westerners to shoot a panda, on an expedition funded by the Field Museum of Natural History in the 1920s. In 1936, Ruth Harkness became the first Westerner to bring back a live giant panda, a cub named Su Lin[118] who went to live at the Brookfield Zoo in Chicago. In 1938, Floyd Tangier Smith captured and delivered five giant pandas to London, they arrived on 23 December aboard the SS Antenor. ...
...

Giant panda - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They're real. I've seen 2. They do things that are not humanly possible.

Or, more likely, you got fooled by an optical illusion, partly hallucinated as your brain filled in gaps in something it didn't understand, then mashed it all together into a falsified memory.

These are all well known phenomena of the human brain.

 

[Donald H]

They're real. I've seen 2. They do things that are not humanly possible.

No, they're not extraterrestrials, if that's what you were thinking.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Robins have been around for a long time and often enough some one had one in hand, dead body, etc. Now if the robin had fangs or was swinging a sword, then maybe photo-shop is in play.

Right. We have lots of evidence of Robins existing and sitting in trees.

We have no evidence whatsoever of aliens visiting earth.

Attributing a mundane reason to an extraordinary claim made without good evidence is clearly the correct and rational thing to do.

"Proof" is for mathematics. You would do well to stop using that word in these settings.

 

[Stryder50]

Sure, we know they've had billions of years to evolve. Maybe there was intelligent life in 'our' universe a few billion years ago?

Not exactly a comforting thought for Christians!

And btw, do Christians believe in extraterrestrials?

Do you think all Christians are clones or carbon copies of each other?
Catholic or Protestant?
Mormon or Jehovah's Witness?

 

[JustAGuy1]

No, they're not extraterrestrials, if that's what you were thinking.

I am going with interdimensional. The laws of physics do not apply to them.

 

[Stryder50]

Right. We have lots of evidence of Robins existing and sitting in trees.

We have no evidence whatsoever of aliens visiting earth.

Attributing a mundane reason to an extraordinary claim made without good evidence is clearly the correct and rational thing to do.

"Proof" is for mathematics. You would do well to stop using that word in these settings.

Tell that to a judge, or jury.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Or, more likely, you got fooled by an optical illusion, partly hallucinate as your brain filled in gaps in something it didn't understand, then mashed it all together into a falsified memory.

These are all well known phenomena of the human brain.

Nope. I know what saw.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Tell that to a judge, or jury.

It would be just as correct, if I did.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nope. I know what saw.

Yes, that's what a falsified memory is. Of course you believe it.

 

[Donald H]

I am going with interdimensional. The laws of physics do not apply to them.

I'm going with you want to believe.