UFO Armada Filmed Over Japan

[Sonny Clark]

There isn't any 'really good irrefutable' UFO footage because there aren't any real alien-UFOs flying around. There's real drones I'm sure many think are UFOs, and many still-secret military aircraft people see from time to time, but aliens? If there is I haven't seen it and believe me, I've been looking.

So, everyone that has seen and reported them, are liars? For many decades, people have been fabricating them? Pleeeeeeeeeez ... give me a break.

Liars, mistaken identiy, crazy people ya.

OK

 

[Delta4Embassy]

I've seen all the tv documentaries and tv shows (worth watching 'Ancient Aliens' isn't worth the time.) What I always notice is they use a lot of stock footage and animation-recreations mixed up with eyewitness testimony.

Eyewitness testimony isn't worth shit. Until you get something on video that can be authenticated, or better still film since it's a lot harder to tamper with and fake (video is just 1's and 0's which by definition is easy as hell to alter and fake) you don't have anything worth professional eyeballs falling upon. Might be worth something to the tabloid and tv shows, but you wont convince anyone who doesn't belive with that kind of non-evidence.

I want daytime, sharp focus, so I can read the tail numbers kind of footage. And that kind simply doesn't exist. All you ever see is zoomed in fuzzy pixellated nightmares.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

UFO ≠ alien

 

[Delta4Embassy]

I've seen 3 UFOs in my life. One that stands out I assume was ball lightning or some kind of discharge since it was a blueish orb that did a figure 8 around a streetlight. Friend saw it too and we scared each other about ooh a UFO!

Another was witnessed by my nana and Mom who had me take a look through binoculars at night. Something was way up in the sky and motionless (or seemingly so) but dark against the dark sky. Had eyes on it for about half an hour so not a very high flying anything. Geostationary satellite seems the best guess. But I assume those have a light of some sort.

Other's the most curious. Driving with my Mom she pointed out what she called a flying saucer so looking I must admit, I saw a flying saucer. But it was so 'flying saucer-looking' I've always maintained it had to be a deliberate hoax type thing. I've since seen similar things that were confirmed hoaxes via balloons and r/c aircraft like.

I've never seen anything I couldn't come up with a plausible explanation for.

 

[Sonny Clark]

I've seen 3 UFOs in my life. One that stands out I assume was ball lightning or some kind of discharge since it was a blueish orb that did a figure 8 around a streetlight. Friend saw it too and we scared each other about ooh a UFO!

Another was witnessed by my nana and Mom who had me take a look through binoculars at night. Something was way up in the sky and motionless (or seemingly so) but dark against the dark sky. Had eyes on it for about half an hour so not a very high flying anything. Geostationary satellite seems the best guess. But I assume those have a light of some sort.

Other's the most curious. Driving with my Mom she pointed out what she called a flying saucer so looking I must admit, I saw a flying saucer. But it was so 'flying saucer-looking' I've always maintained it had to be a deliberate hoax type thing. I've since seen similar things that were confirmed hoaxes via balloons and r/c aircraft like.

I've never seen anything I couldn't come up with a plausible explanation for.

OK

 

[Ringel05]

Funny that if soooooo many people saw them there isn't better footage..........

Many real good videos have been recorded over the years. Many documented cases that can't be disputed.

Pls link me to one of these "real good videos".

Don't be so damn lazy. Just type in "UFO" into your search pane and it'll take you to many thousands of them. Do your own research and stop being lazy.

I love how they include artist's renditions, Hollywood scenes/props, proven hoaxes and uuuuummmmm, more indistinct (highly interperable) videos and images........

Yes, some are fake, and very obvious. But, others can not be explained. In addition, many people of high social status, including president Carter, have seen UFOs. Everyone from government employees, service men and women, to airline pilots have seen them. Some can be explained, while others can not. Out of hundreds of thousands of sightings reported over many decades, everyone can't be liars and into hoaxes. Many that have seen them, have absolutely nothing to gain from fabricating a hoax. Also, the entire population of cities have seen them at the exact same time. Research the ones seen in Mexico for example.

Big deal, many people of high social status....... People of all kinds of backgrounds........ That's supposed to lend credence??!!!

Here ya go, study these:

 

[Sonny Clark]

Many real good videos have been recorded over the years. Many documented cases that can't be disputed.

Pls link me to one of these "real good videos".

Don't be so damn lazy. Just type in "UFO" into your search pane and it'll take you to many thousands of them. Do your own research and stop being lazy.

I love how they include artist's renditions, Hollywood scenes/props, proven hoaxes and uuuuummmmm, more indistinct (highly interperable) videos and images........

Yes, some are fake, and very obvious. But, others can not be explained. In addition, many people of high social status, including president Carter, have seen UFOs. Everyone from government employees, service men and women, to airline pilots have seen them. Some can be explained, while others can not. Out of hundreds of thousands of sightings reported over many decades, everyone can't be liars and into hoaxes. Many that have seen them, have absolutely nothing to gain from fabricating a hoax. Also, the entire population of cities have seen them at the exact same time. Research the ones seen in Mexico for example.

Big deal, many people of high social status....... People of all kinds of backgrounds........ That's supposed to lend credence??!!!

Here ya go, study these:

YES

 

[Ringel05]

Pls link me to one of these "real good videos".

Don't be so damn lazy. Just type in "UFO" into your search pane and it'll take you to many thousands of them. Do your own research and stop being lazy.

I love how they include artist's renditions, Hollywood scenes/props, proven hoaxes and uuuuummmmm, more indistinct (highly interperable) videos and images........

Yes, some are fake, and very obvious. But, others can not be explained. In addition, many people of high social status, including president Carter, have seen UFOs. Everyone from government employees, service men and women, to airline pilots have seen them. Some can be explained, while others can not. Out of hundreds of thousands of sightings reported over many decades, everyone can't be liars and into hoaxes. Many that have seen them, have absolutely nothing to gain from fabricating a hoax. Also, the entire population of cities have seen them at the exact same time. Research the ones seen in Mexico for example.

Big deal, many people of high social status....... People of all kinds of backgrounds........ That's supposed to lend credence??!!!

Here ya go, study these:

YES

Yes you need to read scientific books that explain the phenomenon we see (and how we interpret it) in the sky or yes, you rely on people of "status" to explain scientific phenomenon?

 

[Sonny Clark]

Don't be so damn lazy. Just type in "UFO" into your search pane and it'll take you to many thousands of them. Do your own research and stop being lazy.

I love how they include artist's renditions, Hollywood scenes/props, proven hoaxes and uuuuummmmm, more indistinct (highly interperable) videos and images........

Yes, some are fake, and very obvious. But, others can not be explained. In addition, many people of high social status, including president Carter, have seen UFOs. Everyone from government employees, service men and women, to airline pilots have seen them. Some can be explained, while others can not. Out of hundreds of thousands of sightings reported over many decades, everyone can't be liars and into hoaxes. Many that have seen them, have absolutely nothing to gain from fabricating a hoax. Also, the entire population of cities have seen them at the exact same time. Research the ones seen in Mexico for example.

Big deal, many people of high social status....... People of all kinds of backgrounds........ That's supposed to lend credence??!!!

Here ya go, study these:

YES

Yes you need to read scientific books that explain the phenomenon we see (and how we interpret it) in the sky or yes, you rely on people of "status" to explain scientific phenomenon?

Cute

 

[Ringel05]

I love how they include artist's renditions, Hollywood scenes/props, proven hoaxes and uuuuummmmm, more indistinct (highly interperable) videos and images........

Yes, some are fake, and very obvious. But, others can not be explained. In addition, many people of high social status, including president Carter, have seen UFOs. Everyone from government employees, service men and women, to airline pilots have seen them. Some can be explained, while others can not. Out of hundreds of thousands of sightings reported over many decades, everyone can't be liars and into hoaxes. Many that have seen them, have absolutely nothing to gain from fabricating a hoax. Also, the entire population of cities have seen them at the exact same time. Research the ones seen in Mexico for example.

Big deal, many people of high social status....... People of all kinds of backgrounds........ That's supposed to lend credence??!!!

Here ya go, study these:

YES

Yes you need to read scientific books that explain the phenomenon we see (and how we interpret it) in the sky or yes, you rely on people of "status" to explain scientific phenomenon?

Cute

Hell, I bet you think Ancient Aliens is factual.........
(I'm jealous, I wish I would have come up with that scam loooong ago....... laughing all the way to the bank.....).

 

[Ringel05]

I love how they include artist's renditions, Hollywood scenes/props, proven hoaxes and uuuuummmmm, more indistinct (highly interperable) videos and images........

Yes, some are fake, and very obvious. But, others can not be explained. In addition, many people of high social status, including president Carter, have seen UFOs. Everyone from government employees, service men and women, to airline pilots have seen them. Some can be explained, while others can not. Out of hundreds of thousands of sightings reported over many decades, everyone can't be liars and into hoaxes. Many that have seen them, have absolutely nothing to gain from fabricating a hoax. Also, the entire population of cities have seen them at the exact same time. Research the ones seen in Mexico for example.

Big deal, many people of high social status....... People of all kinds of backgrounds........ That's supposed to lend credence??!!!

Here ya go, study these:

YES

Yes you need to read scientific books that explain the phenomenon we see (and how we interpret it) in the sky or yes, you rely on people of "status" to explain scientific phenomenon?

Cute

Do you realize that in the last 10 years we've come to understand and explain the phenomenon as our understanding of the interaction of the earth's magnetic field, solar winds and the sun's plasma eruptions with our atmosphere? How we're finding out that things like earthquakes (even small imperceptible ones) can create strange phenomenon in the atmosphere like dancing lights and that such phenomenon can be seen half a world away at times?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Funny that if soooooo many people saw them there isn't better footage..........

Many real good videos have been recorded over the years. Many documented cases that can't be disputed.

I have yet to see one that can't be disputed.

thats because as we both know you only see what you WANT to see on anything that involves government corruption.

anything that goes against your warped views you have,you wont look at and dismiss it because you worship what the government tells you,if they tell you its true you believe it,doesnt matter if top notch experts in the fields of goverment such as astronauts says it is not of earth orgin as they are on record saying.

oh and since you always go into insult mode when you cant refute facts,seriously,get off the crack you smoke everyday and do something more constructive than watching johhny depp movies living in this fantasyworld of yours you obviously have that the government is looking out for you.

 

[Ringel05]

Funny that if soooooo many people saw them there isn't better footage..........

Many real good videos have been recorded over the years. Many documented cases that can't be disputed.

I have yet to see one that can't be disputed.

thats because as we both know you only see what you WANT to see on anything that involves government corruption.

anything that goes against your warped views you have,you wont look at and dismiss it because you worship what the government tells you,if they tell you its true you believe it,doesnt matter if top notch experts in the fields of goverment such as astronauts says it is not of earth orgin as they are on record saying.

oh and since you always go into insult mode when you cant refute facts,seriously,get off the crack you smoke everyday and do something more constructive than watching johhny depp movies living in this fantasyworld of yours you obviously have that the government is looking out for you.

For you;

 

[Ringel05]

Oh and truly that wasn't an insult, it's a strong suggestion, get help.

 

[anotherlife]

Discrediting things by flooding them with hoaxes is a classic technique to draw attention away from something that you use as a weapon. But even some medieval paintings, such as some of davinci's depict a flying saucer or another. Prank? When they didn't yet have the concept of other planets or a solar system?

 

[Searcher44]

Funny that if soooooo many people saw them there isn't better footage..........

Many real good videos have been recorded over the years. Many documented cases that can't be disputed.

Pls link me to one of these "real good videos".

Don't be so damn lazy. Just type in "UFO" into your search pane and it'll take you to many thousands of them. Do your own research and stop being lazy.

I've watched hundreds of UFO documentaries and extemporaneous "eyewitness" videos and studied "many thousands" of photos. I have yet to see one that was more convincing than a poorly lit, pixilated, shaky pot lid on a string, a frisbee, or an amateurish model. I think that there is a 99.99999% probability for a multitude of other intelligent life forms existing in our universe. So if you can link me to a convincing pic or vid of a UFO in our vicinity I would greatly appreciate it.

 

[Ringel05]

Discrediting things by flooding them with hoaxes is a classic technique to draw attention away from something that you use as a weapon. But even some medieval paintings, such as some of davinci's depict a flying saucer or another. Prank? When they didn't yet have the concept of other planets or a solar system?

Saw a science (art history specialists) seminar on UFOs supposedly depicted in old paintings. When the experts weighed in they explained what the items represented (well known representations), they were not UFOs..........

 

[Searcher44]

Discrediting things by flooding them with hoaxes is a classic technique to draw attention away from something that you use as a weapon. But even some medieval paintings, such as some of davinci's depict a flying saucer or another. Prank? When they didn't yet have the concept of other planets or a solar system?

Saw a science (art history specialists) seminar on UFOs supposedly depicted in old paintings. When the experts weighed in they explained what the items represented (well known representations), they were not UFOs..........

Right, let's give them one example.

From: The Art Of Imagining UFOs

So, what exactly is it that these web sites are showcasing? What does art history have to say about the discovery of UFOs in centuries-old paintings? (Here is an example with a critique of to illustrate the shortcomings of the reasoning.)

1.The Adoration of the Extraterrestrials
Carlo Crivelli, Annunciazione (1486)

Anyone familiar with 15th-century religious painting will find it absurd that the authors of some UFOlogy web sites are astonished by the object in the sky of the Annunciation by Carlo Crivelli (now at the National Gallery of London
What they consider most surprising is the fact that there is a ray of light coming down from this “flying object” to touch the head of the Virgin Mary. This ray, it is claimed, comes from a saucer-like UFO hovering among the clouds. Unfortunately, casual web surfers will find that posted reproductions of the key detail (the “saucer,” actually a circle of clouds in the sky) are small, blurred, or pixilated to the point of being indecipherable.

On the Edicolaweb site,6 the commentary is quite restrained:
“Painting by Carlo Crivelli, known as The Annunciation, shown at the National Gallery of London. In the sky hovers a large, bright circle, from which a beam of light descends, reaching the crown worn by Mary.”
By contrast, a site called The UFOs of Crivelli 7 gets right to the point:
“What most attracts our attention is the peculiarity of the cloud shape: indeed it appears to be quite solid, with a circular structure, and clearly different from any other cloud surrounding it. It may be either the sun circle (direct emanation of the divine energy) or an object really seen and thus represented by Crivelli himself. As evidence of this latter hypothesis stands the ‘thickness’ of the object, which is not an abstract entity: in addition the resemblance of the ‘cloud’ to a UFO recently seen in Veneto [a northern region of Italy] in January 1999 is clear. The reader may judge for himself.”
Of course, the reader can’t judge without a sharp detail of the cloud, but the blowup provided is of even lower quality than is typical.
Had those publishing this claim bothered to become familiar with the art of the period, they would know that there are a vast number of Annunciations in which a ray reaches from a circular cloud to the head of the Madonna. This scene is, like most religious scenes, an established genre rendered in similar ways many times by many people. These various Annunciations speak a specialized iconographic language that modern viewers no longer understand.

Another debunking author concludes with this;

Almost all the UFO-in-Art theories come from the middle ages and they all fail when they are compared with other paintings of the same scene because one can then see that these were consistent motifs in that style of art and were used to describe certain theological concepts which, when explained in light of the concept that its obviously trying to convey, totally demystifies the objects in question. - See more at: UFO’s in Ancient Art | Ancient Aliens Debunked

 

[percysunshine]

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For a paranormal thread to work, it requires two normal posters.

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[Grandma]

If I were an alien whose technology made me able to travel to Earth, I'd probably have the damn sense to disguise my vehicle and myself so we could blend in...