U.S. tells Moscow : " Putin to pull back from Ukraine or face painful sanctions". if Moscow invades Ukraine again, will Biden do what R. Reagan did ?

[Confederate Soldier]

How do you figure their economy is a world leader?
Their GDP per capita is around that of Greece.
Is the Greek economy a world leader?

Russia is a world leader in gas and oil supply, among other things.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Russia is a world leader in gas and oil supply, among other things.

So why did you claim we couldn't hurt them with sanctions.

They're a third rate economy with a lot of oil and gas.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

So why did you claim we couldn't hurt them with sanctions.

They're a third rate economy with a lot of oil and gas.

Because if they are going to war, they aren't going to sell the gas and oil, they are going to use it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Because if they are going to war, they aren't going to sell the gas and oil, they are going to use it.

What does that have to do with your claim that they can't be hurt with sanctions
and that they're a world leader "in trade and pretty much everything else"?

As far as exports, Spain, 47 million people, and Belgium, 12 million people, export more than Russia, 142 million people. So does Ireland, with 5 million people.

 

[Silver Cat]

So why did you claim we couldn't hurt them with sanctions.

They're a third rate economy with a lot of oil and gas.

First of all, we can't hurt them with sanctions because Russia is an ally (and, in some way, protector) of China, and an important member of the Shanghai Pact. So - China can buy everything that Russia wants to sell and sell her almost everything that Russia wants to buy. Same way, we can't hurt China military, because Russia is vitally interested to protect China.
You know:

US should learn to respect core interests of China, Russia: Global Times editorial - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

First of all, we can't hurt them with sanctions because Russia is an ally (and, in some way, protector) of China, and an important member of the Shanghai Pact. So - China can buy everything that Russia wants to sell and sell her almost everything that Russia wants to buy. Same way, we can't hurt China military, because Russia is vitally interested to protect China.
You know:

US should learn to respect core interests of China, Russia: Global Times editorial - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

First of all, we can't hurt them with sanctions because Russia is an ally

That's a silly claim, of course we can hurt them with sanctions.

So - China can buy everything that Russia wants to sell and sell her almost everything that Russia wants to buy.

So why doesn't Russia trade exclusively with China?

Are you seriously using a Chinese government newspaper as a source?

 

[Confederate Soldier]

What does that have to do with your claim that they can't be hurt with sanctions
and that they're a world leader "in trade and pretty much everything else"?

As far as exports, Spain, 47 million people, and Belgium, 12 million people, export more than Russia, 142 million people. So does Ireland, with 5 million people.

Russia was the eleventh largest economy in the world in 2020, with its gross domestic product measured at 1.46 trillion U.S. dollars. In the global ranking by nominal GDP, Russia was positioned between the Republic of Korea and Brazil. - Statista.com Topic: Economy of Russia

Russia - Energy, Manufacturing, Agriculture

Russia - Energy, Manufacturing, Agriculture: The Russian republic, by virtue of its great size and abundant natural resources, played a leading role in the economy of the Soviet Union. In the first decades of the Soviet regime, these resources made possible great economic advances, including the...

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They have everything they need, to survive on their own, with or without sanctions. Any money they make from these resources will not matter if Putin decides to go to war. They will use these resources for themselves. The Russians have come a long way since the Soviet era, but they can quite easily go back to the good ol' forced labor if needed.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Russia was the eleventh largest economy in the world in 2020, with its gross domestic product measured at 1.46 trillion U.S. dollars. In the global ranking by nominal GDP, Russia was positioned between the Republic of Korea and Brazil. - Statista.com Topic: Economy of Russia

Russia - Energy, Manufacturing, Agriculture

Russia - Energy, Manufacturing, Agriculture: The Russian republic, by virtue of its great size and abundant natural resources, played a leading role in the economy of the Soviet Union. In the first decades of the Soviet regime, these resources made possible great economic advances, including the...

www.britannica.com

They have everything they need, to survive on their own, with or without sanctions. Any money they make from these resources will not matter if Putin decides to go to war. They will use these resources for themselves. The Russians have come a long way since the Soviet era, but they can quite easily go back to the good ol' forced labor if needed.

Russia was the eleventh largest economy in the world in 2020

They're the largest by landmass and the 9th largest by population.
GDP per capita, they're down in the 70s.

They have everything they need, to survive on their own, with or without sanctions.

And they're still a dump.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

Russia was the eleventh largest economy in the world in 2020

They're the largest by landmass and the 9th largest by population.
GDP per capita, they're down in the 70s.

They have everything they need, to survive on their own, with or without sanctions.

And they're still a dump.

Have you ever been to Russia? What you see on the TV you watch, the books you read, the websites you visit, don't you think that American internet, authors, and media are selectively picking things for you to see?


Don't get me wrong, Russia is a brutal place, but farther away from the trashy, decrepit stuff you see in media, etc. I believe it is a mixture, just like what we have here in America. If I showed you pictures of just Youngstown Ohio, and you had no idea what America was like, you'd think America was a complete shithole. But it isn't That's what selective sourcing does.



I don't believe Russia when they say they are the greatest, the best, or what have you. And I don't believe the U.S. when it says that Russia is a poor dump filled with uneducated Slavs. I feel like it is somewhere in between what Russia, and the Western nations are telling us.

 

[bripat9643]

Russia is a world leader in gas and oil supply, among other things.

And utterly uncompetitive in everything else.

 

[Burgermeister]

Putin will give Biden enough time for Biden to advise Ukraine to cede some territory to avoid war. Then Putin will take whatever he wants and lady Biden will say he tried.

 

[Rigby5]

What does that have to do with your claim that they can't be hurt with sanctions
and that they're a world leader "in trade and pretty much everything else"?

As far as exports, Spain, 47 million people, and Belgium, 12 million people, export more than Russia, 142 million people. So does Ireland, with 5 million people.

Wrong.
Countries that export a lot are irrelevant if they have to import MORE than they export, like Spain and Belgium.
Russia has a positive balance of trade of over $73 billion.
China is about the only one doing better, about 5 times better.
In contrast, the US currently has a negative trade imbalance.

 

[Rigby5]

And by the way, economic sanctions by the US are totally illegal and have always been illegal.
The Ukraine also is criminal.
Since 1991 they have illegally been siphoning off gas and oil from Russian pipelines going through the Ukraine, to Europe.
They owe Russia tens of billions, to pay back what they stole.

 

[Rigby5]

Putin will give Biden enough time for Biden to advise Ukraine to cede some territory to avoid war. Then Putin will take whatever he wants and lady Biden will say he tried.

The Crimea and South Ossetia are ethnic Russian, and should never have been part of the Ukraine.
Khrushchev gave them to the Ukraine for some odd reason, in the 1950s. Never made any sense.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Russia is more than economics. It's a land of tough people and one of the worlds strongest militaries. Ever watch a Russian Parade?

Our military marches in high heels, so there.

Russia does not care about sanctions. Crippling sanctions only means everybody cheats. Even threatening sanctions was idiotic. We have no allies and partners for sanctions against Russia. Try it and Russia cuts off gas and LNG to Europe. Europe will not freeze to placate Fuck Biden's farms.

 

[JohnDB]

Biden wants to send troops into Ukraine to help cover up a few guys going in to destroy data surrounding his son's financial misdeeds that he personally profited from.

The rest is just distraction from a failed domestic policy.

 

[otto105]

Biden wants to send troops into Ukraine to help cover up a few guys going in to destroy data surrounding his son's financial misdeeds that he personally profited from.

The rest is just distraction from a failed domestic policy.

Damn, you're one ignorant boi.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Biden wants to send troops into Ukraine to help cover up a few guys going in to destroy data surrounding his son's financial misdeeds that he personally profited from.

The rest is just distraction from a failed domestic policy.

Exactly

 

[Litwin]

Britain hits five banks and three wealthy Russians with sanctions over Ukraine

Rolling coverage of the international stories of interest to our readers

www.irishexaminer.com

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60454795

 

[Sunsettommy]

And by the way, economic sanctions by the US are totally illegal and have always been illegal.
The Ukraine also is criminal.
Since 1991 they have illegally been siphoning off gas and oil from Russian pipelines going through the Ukraine, to Europe.
They owe Russia tens of billions, to pay back what they stole.

It is one of the reasons WHY they invaded Ukraine.