Two years to the day thread, Israel/Gaza war

[gipper]

Now in Berlin at the Brandenburg Gate.
Over 1,000 chairs, each with a name, a face, an age, — the victims and hostages of the October 7 massacre.
@ron.prosor
Photo & Credit: Vorstand der JSUD.

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Imagine if they did that for the 680,000 Palestinians you’ve happily murdered.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Though the name sounds familiar and at the time I probably heard about it all the time in the news, in 1973, I was in high school and was a wild and crazy guy who had more important things on his mind then than some small war on the other side of the world.

They Announced What the Jihad Plan Was, and They Were Laughed AT

1973 was a preview of 9/11. Earlier that year, the Israelis were forced to back down from their excellent intelligence about the jihadis, leading to their hesitancy in October.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

89% of Hamas Fighters and the 10/7 Attackers are dead and Gaza is a Ruinous Hellscape . Bravo , well done IDF .

Beau Geste

Peace will only come when the Paleonasties are all deported to Algeria.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The American Far Left & Left want to Arm Hamas

Don't forget the Christofascist Right

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Hamas Killed His Family, Then Held Him Hostage for 491 Days. Still, He Chooses Life.

His wife and children were killed on October 7. He survived 491 days in Hamas captivity. Today, he tells his story.

www.thefp.com

Criticism of Hoplophobia Omitted for the Safety of Liberals

Had he been armed? What happened to "my cold dead hands," said by an actor who had played Moses? How phony the NRA is for never bringing this up.

 

[Deadstick]

Another Lie. The Arabs started every Arab/Israeli War

Bullshit!

• 1948 Arab-Israeli War: The first major conflict following Israel's establishment.
• 1956 Suez Crisis: A military operation against Egypt.
• 1967 Six-Day War: A decisive conflict that resulted in significant territorial gains.
• 1973 Yom Kippur War: A surprise attack by Egypt and Syria.
• 1982 Lebanon War: A conflict involving Israel and Lebanon.
• 2006 Lebanon War: A military operation against Hezbollah in Lebanon.
• 2023 Israel-Iran Conflict: A recent conflict involving Israel and Iran.
  In total, Israel has fought seven recognized wars and has been involved in numerous other military engagements throughout its history

since October 7th those Israeli gangsters have attacked five Countries.

 

[Failzero]

Don't forget the Christofascist Right

We want to Arm law abiding New Yorkers

 

[Lisa558]

I learned a few new details last night and I'm including Lisa558 in the conversation because she seems to be a fair expert on all things Israel. I learned that:

1. They had something called the Six Day War.
2. Israel had been trying to settle things and they and the Palestinians fought over something and several Arab countries around them ganged up on Israel instead and told the Palestinians to get out of there, leave the area, that they would easily defeat Israel rather than make any concessions to a 2-state solution, and then once defeated, the Palestinians could move back in.
3. Instead of accepting a generous offer that would have given the Palestinians 5X the land and many additional things, the Arabs threw it all out, went to war--- and lost.
4. The Arabs lost 80% of the land that Palestinians would have otherwise had to Israel.
5. Sometime after that, the Palestinians elected Hamas as their governing body.

So I'll say it again: it is very difficult for me to feel sorry for the Palestinians or fault Israel for fighting back any way they can.

Yes, you have it exactly correct.

Israel offered the Palestinians a deal that encompassed 95% of the land they were asking for, yet they turned it down! Why? Because the offer was contingent on the Palis recognizing Israel’s right to exist. IOW, Israel said, “here, you can have 95% of the land you want, but you have to agree to stop trying to destroy us.”

And the antisemites rejected it! That proves that they don’t REALLY want peace, or a two-state solution. Their goal was and remains to wipe out Israel and all her Jews.

 

[Lisa558]

Yes. Don't forget the Yom Kippur war of 1973 lead by Egypt and Syria. They had an early and dominant position but then lost.

From what I understand the war in 1967 began by Israel attacking early after escalations on both sides and thus ensuring it was a short war.

In 1973 though, the Israelis were caught off guard and were in a bad position. Perhaps the closest they had come to losing their country since 1948. The rapid assistance by the United States changed the outcome,

There were some classic tank successes by the Israelis as I recall learning about. In one instance, a couple of tanks held off many more enemy tanks who were visually in darkness by feigning that there were more there than was really the case and it caused a poor decision of retreat.

The 1967 War began with a preemptive strike by Israel because Egypt, Syria, and Jordan had all placed heavy military equipment at their borders, and were within hours of a strike.

And yes, the Yom Kippur War caught them off guard, and they came dangerously close to losing the country.

 

[Deadstick]

Imagine if they did that for the 680,000 Palestinians you’ve happily murdered.

One thing they can't explain is how a few Hamas guys with small arms caused this amount of damage, that's because they didn't this was the Hannibal directive in action when Apache choppers attacked them with hell fire missiles and chain guns.

 

[toobfreak]

Yes, you have it exactly correct.

I'm glad I retained that correctly, as I caught it clicking through the channels late at night half asleep. What caught my attention was when the guy said that the Arabs passed on a great deal, chose to go to war so they could effectively "have their cake and eat it too," but instead of eradicating Israel, Israel kicked their asses and took back 80% of the land they had offered.

Basically, it was like the Arab states said: "No thank you Israel, you keep it all."

And all these years later, they are still pissed they lost, still losing, and still trying to get even. Muslims and Democrats are remarkably similar--- I wonder if they are any blood relation.

Basically, at this point, there is N O T H I N G that Netanyahu, Israel or the IDF could do now to sour my opinion of this Gaza war. Frankly, I'm a little amazed at this point that Israel has not dropped a nuke on Hamas or at least a couple of neutron bombs.
I can only assume it is because Gaza is RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

Oh yeah, I just remembered one other detail my TV program mentioned: that under the original agreement, Israel was already in charge of administering the Gaza Strip! Basically, Israel ran it for the Palestinians and took care of everything until ther Palis boned them and hired Hamas to come in to administer the place.

• There is no Palestinian state. That is a cold slap in the face to Israel.
• In effect, the EU is trying to recognize the autonomy of a non-existent state while not even recognizing the basic right to survival by Israel.
• This implies a pro-muslim / pro-Arab shift in the general stance by the EU.
• Gaza is up for grabs still.
• The clock has run out for the Palis. They gambled and lost (actually, the Arab countries of the region did it for them). It is a wonder they hung on for this long.

 

[Lisa558]

I'm glad I retained that correctly, as I caught it clicking through the channels late at night half asleep. What caught my attention was when the guy said that the Arabs passed on a great deal, chose to go to war so they could effectively "have their cake and eat it too," but instead of eradicating Israel, Israel kicked their asses and took back 80% of the land they had offered.

Basically, it was like the Arab states said: "No thank you Israel, you keep it all."

And all these years later, they are still pissed they lost, still losing, and still trying to get even. Muslims and Democrats are remarkably similar--- I wonder if they are any blood relation.

Basically, at this point, there is N O T H I N G that Netanyahu, Israel or the IDF could do now to sour my opinion of this Gaza war. Frankly, I'm a little amazed at this point that Israel has not dropped a nuke on Hamas or at least a couple of neutron bombs.
I can only assume it is because Gaza is RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

Oh yeah, I just remembered one other detail my TV program mentioned: that under the original agreement, Israel was already in charge of administering the Gaza Strip! Basically, Israel ran it for the Palestinians and took care of everything until ther Palis boned them and hired Hamas to come in to administer the place.

• There is no Palestinian state. That is a cold slap in the face to Israel.
• In effect, the EU is trying to recognize the autonomy of a non-existent state while not even recognizing the basic right to survival by Israel.
• This implies a pro-muslim / pro-Arab shift in the general stance by the EU.
• Gaza is up for grabs still.
• The clock has run out for the Palis. They gambled and lost (actually, the Arab countries of the region did it for them). It is a wonder they hung on for this long.

That Israel didn’t bomb GAZA after what the savages did, and instead launched a risky ground offensive in order to minimize collateral damage (of Palestinians who overwhelmingly want the Jews dead and supported the 10/7 massacre) is a testament to Israel’s restraint and superior moral code.

That we have people try to draw a parallel between the HAMAS barbarians and Israelis is indicative of 1) the anti-Jew propoganda circulating, and 2) the willingness of people to believe the worst of Jews.

Thank you for your support.

 

[toobfreak]

That Israel didn’t bomb GAZA after what the savages did, and instead launched a risky ground offensive in order to minimize collateral damage

Good point. It would have been far easier and safer to carpet bomb Gaza into oblivion from 20,000 feet than it was to go in there man to man, door to door, with small arms.

I suppose in a way, I'm thankful I'm not Jewish, for if I was, I'd be more than a little incensed that after all that has been done to me, all that I've tried for peace, that so many buttholes in this planet still choose instead to blame me for stuff while giving Hamas a clean pass and rolling out the red carpet for the Palis.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

That Israel didn’t bomb GAZA after what the savages did, and instead launched a risky ground offensive in order to minimize collateral damage (of Palestinians who overwhelmingly want the Jews dead and supported the 10/7 massacre) is a testament to Israel’s restraint and superior moral code.

That’s true. With its military capabilities, it could’ve flattened Gaza by day 8.

 

[Failzero]

That’s true. With its military capabilities, it could’ve flattened Gaza by day 8.

I said two weeks tops , I was wrong, the IDF pussyfooted around for two years

 

[toobfreak]

That’s true. With its military capabilities, it could’ve flattened Gaza by day 8.

In hindsight, they probably should have, By dragging it out, they've given the lemmings of the world time to raise a fuss. Lessons learned. Trump/Iran--- In and out of the nuke site, by the time you heard about it, it was already over.

I said two weeks tops , I was wrong, the IDF pussyfooted around for two years

Pussyfoot? As it is, walking on eggshells, half the world is already turning on Israel as it is, and IMO, they've gone out of their way to be nice.

Some might say that on this 2nd anniversary that the IDF should have killed a Hamas today, raped, beat and broken his body, stripped it to its underwear, decapitated it, propped its ass high in the air, shoved a corncob up his ass, and driven it around in the back of a pick up truck for all to see, laugh at, piss on, and slap with their shoes.

 

[USAF 2023]

Bullshit!

• 1948 Arab-Israeli War: The first major conflict following Israel's establishment.
• 1956 Suez Crisis: A military operation against Egypt.
• 1967 Six-Day War: A decisive conflict that resulted in significant territorial gains.
• 1973 Yom Kippur War: A surprise attack by Egypt and Syria.
• 1982 Lebanon War: A conflict involving Israel and Lebanon.
• 2006 Lebanon War: A military operation against Hezbollah in Lebanon.
• 2023 Israel-Iran Conflict: A recent conflict involving Israel and Iran.
  In total, Israel has fought seven recognized wars and has been involved in numerous other military engagements throughout its history

since October 7th those Israeli gangsters have attacked five Countries.

194& Yes That was Israel’s fault when it became a Country
1956 Nasser wanted to nationalize the Suez Canal and Europe was against it . You “ forgot” to mention there were two other countries involved Israel also need the Straits of Tiran to stay open
1967 Are you referring to the “ UN Peacekeepers “ lol! Leaving and Nasser closing the Straits bragging he was going to destroy the “ Jewish entity “ Maybe YOU can tell us what the U.N was doing
1973 According to your admission, they started the war thank you
2006 Hezbollah cross the border with gorilla attacks destroyed a compound I took his Israel soldiers
2023 Iran supplying Hamas with weapons

Read a book and try to educate yourself

 

[bambu.]

Yes. Don't forget the Yom Kippur war of 1973 lead by Egypt and Syria. They had an early and dominant position but then lost.

From what I understand the war in 1967 began by Israel attacking early after escalations on both sides and thus ensuring it was a short war.

In 1973 though, the Israelis were caught off guard and were in a bad position. Perhaps the closest they had come to losing their country since 1948. The rapid assistance by the United States changed the outcome,

There were some classic tank successes by the Israelis as I recall learning about. In one instance, a couple of tanks held off many more enemy tanks who were visually in darkness by feigning that there were more there than was really the case and it caused a poor decision of retreat.

As I remember it, the Egyptians and Syrians were celebrating wildly, how they were going to smash Israel.
Israel sent jets up while they were having breakfast and blew them to bits, basically.
Yes, best not to go off early.
Best to win the game before you start partying.

I'm amazed that Hamas and its many supporters in Palestine and around the world thought Israel could be invaded, unspeakably horrific atrocities committed on them, hostages taken ... and Israel wouldn't go nutz and turn Gaza into rubble.

 

[shockedcanadian]

As I remember it, the Egyptians and Syrians were celebrating wildly, how they were going to smash Israel.
Israel sent jets up while they were having breakfast and blew them to bits, basically.
Yes, best not to go off early.
Best to win the game before you start partying.

I'm amazed that Hamas and its many supporters in Palestine and around the world thought Israel could be invaded, unspeakably horrific atrocities committed on them, hostages taken ... and Israel wouldn't go nutz and turn Gaza into rubble.

I knew the moment I heard about the extent of the atrocities that this was not going to be the usual skirmish response.

 

[Deadstick]

194& Yes That was Israel’s fault when it became a Country
1956 Nasser wanted to nationalize the Suez Canal and Europe was against it . You “ forgot” to mention there were two other countries involved Israel also need the Straits of Tiran to stay open
1967 Are you referring to the “ UN Peacekeepers “ lol! Leaving and Nasser closing the Straits bragging he was going to destroy the “ Jewish entity “ Maybe YOU can tell us what the U.N was doing
1973 According to your admission, they started the war thank you
2006 Hezbollah cross the border with gorilla attacks destroyed a compound I took his Israel soldiers
2023 Iran supplying Hamas with weapons

Read a book and try to educate yourself

You educate yourself, as i say the Yom kipur war was the only one the Egyptians and Syrians started but that was to liberate their own land that Israel occupied, Nasser was a Arab Nationalist, how dare he act in his own peoples interests? less than ten years from the founding of Israel by a Ukrainian settler you attacked Egypt along with British and french Colonialists, since October 7th you have attacked five Countries.