Well, the first one was brought up in this thread:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/israe...tic-studies-on-palestinians-and-israelis.html
Where it was claimed that the Crusaders cannibalized folks in Jerusalem, according to this post:
So, I asked and asked and asked over and over again in that thread for some sort of link. Finally, I got tired and decided to do some 'googling' of my own and found several references to the Crusaders cannibalizing some folks, not in Jerusalem, but in another town called Ma’aarra. Here's the same link that amity1844 posted in the other thread:
Siege of Ma'arra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
here's another from the History Channel for what it's worth:
This Day in History - December 12, 1098 - Crusaders Become Cannibals
And here's another one that comes from a very unbiased source (lol):
The Bloodbaths of the Crusades Against Muslims. By Dr. Abdullah Mohammad Sindi - Radio Islam
None of these including the unbiased one I posted last talk about cannibalism in Jerusalem during the crusades. Sorry [MENTION=49350]amity1844[/MENTION], but thank you for trying.
However, the second thing I learned about the crusades was from that last link also. It seems as though the Muslims still hold what happened during the Crusades against the western world to this day. Wow. Educational. But I believe I have heard about this here and there (no links, no proof, just conjecture).
Let me post the link again, since I am on my 'part two' of my post:
The Bloodbaths of the Crusades Against Muslims. By Dr. Abdullah Mohammad Sindi - Radio Islam
So in the above unbiased report, it seems as though we westerners have been having an "insane bloodbath" against the Arabs since then. Really it's a long read. And to be honest, I didn't quite read all of it, however, in it's unbiased approach, this line in the paragraph below stuck out to me:
So why not plead for help to curb the onslaught? I don't have the links to post now, but if I remember correctly, Islam was spreading not like Christianity like a lamb, but like a lion with the sword. Back in those days, from what I remember from my history lessons, Islam was spreading by the sword through most of northern Africa and was (or had been) in Spain as well. So if Islam was now knowing at Constantinople's (the Byzantine capital) doors, why not amass an army and fight back?
Now, when I post such a long post, my two or three brain cells sometimes burn out, but in closing, I did have to make sure that it was the Islam/Turks who took the offensive on the Byzantines. It was:
Byzantine?Seljuq wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.usmessageboard.com/israe...tic-studies-on-palestinians-and-israelis.html
Where it was claimed that the Crusaders cannibalized folks in Jerusalem, according to this post:
<snip>By the way, did you know that when Jerusalem was captured by the Crusaders (I think this was the second crusade), they ATE the inhabitants?!?!? Yes, Muslim and Jewish and even a few Christians, they ATE them! I used to hear this when I was in the Middle East and thought it was just empty propaganda, but when I took history in college, OMG, it turned out to be true.
So, I asked and asked and asked over and over again in that thread for some sort of link. Finally, I got tired and decided to do some 'googling' of my own and found several references to the Crusaders cannibalizing some folks, not in Jerusalem, but in another town called Ma’aarra. Here's the same link that amity1844 posted in the other thread:
Siege of Ma'arra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
here's another from the History Channel for what it's worth:
This Day in History - December 12, 1098 - Crusaders Become Cannibals
And here's another one that comes from a very unbiased source (lol):
The Bloodbaths of the Crusades Against Muslims. By Dr. Abdullah Mohammad Sindi - Radio Islam
None of these including the unbiased one I posted last talk about cannibalism in Jerusalem during the crusades. Sorry [MENTION=49350]amity1844[/MENTION], but thank you for trying.
However, the second thing I learned about the crusades was from that last link also. It seems as though the Muslims still hold what happened during the Crusades against the western world to this day. Wow. Educational. But I believe I have heard about this here and there (no links, no proof, just conjecture).
Let me post the link again, since I am on my 'part two' of my post:
The Bloodbaths of the Crusades Against Muslims. By Dr. Abdullah Mohammad Sindi - Radio Islam
So in the above unbiased report, it seems as though we westerners have been having an "insane bloodbath" against the Arabs since then. Really it's a long read. And to be honest, I didn't quite read all of it, however, in it's unbiased approach, this line in the paragraph below stuck out to me:
Nevertheless, the Western Crusades' insane bloodbaths against the Arabs were triggered by the decisive defeat of the Byzantine army in 1071 at the hands of the Turkish Seljuk (Abbasid) army. Fearing that all of Asia Minor would be quickly overrun by the Abbasids, the defeated Byzantine emperor, Alexius I, quickly appealed to his Christian rivals and opponents in Western Europe, i.e., Pope Urban II and his other "fellow" Christian rulers, to come to the aid of Constantinople by undertaking a "pilgrimage" or Crusade to "free" Jerusalem and the rest of Palestine from Arab and Muslim rule.
So why not plead for help to curb the onslaught? I don't have the links to post now, but if I remember correctly, Islam was spreading not like Christianity like a lamb, but like a lion with the sword. Back in those days, from what I remember from my history lessons, Islam was spreading by the sword through most of northern Africa and was (or had been) in Spain as well. So if Islam was now knowing at Constantinople's (the Byzantine capital) doors, why not amass an army and fight back?
Now, when I post such a long post, my two or three brain cells sometimes burn out, but in closing, I did have to make sure that it was the Islam/Turks who took the offensive on the Byzantines. It was:
Byzantine?Seljuq wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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