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Wow! What a turn around. ...
Erdogan talked about NATO membership AFTER the war is over. ...
My speculation is not as extreme but we agree that it will be changed and probably irreversibly --- as least in our lifetimes . IMHO the most important country might be Poland ...
He has turned his country into a pariah nation on the world stage.
You see, from the Russian point of view, it was Zelenskiy, who invaded a sovereign countries (the allies of the Russian Federation).
It also illustrates Putin’s stupidity – there’d be no talk of Ukraine joining NATO if Russia hadn’t launched its lawless invasion.
Turkey's Erdogan hosts Zelenskyy, says Ukraine 'deserves' to be NATO member
Turkish President Erdogan’s declaration of support comes amid a fresh push by Kyiv to join the Transatlantic alliance once the war is over.www.al-monitor.com
Wow! What a turn around. If this is sincere, it is a thumb in the eye of Putin. Incredible!
No. This would cause a World War and Erdogan had not to overtake the responsibility for all his superbullshit which had weakened and will still weaken for a much longer time Europe, the USA and Turkey. The next step is Sweden in the NATO - and/or the Troyan horse Turkey including Erdogans spitlickers has to go totally out of the NATO.
It also illustrates Putin’s stupidity – there’d be no talk of Ukraine joining NATO if Russia hadn’t launched its lawless invasion.
Actually, what NATO said was that Ukraine would surely become a member of NATO after it came into compliance with NATO requirements, but the truth was that France and Germany opposed admitting Ukraine because it might offend Putin and interfere with energy imports from Russia. Now, of course, these are no longer concerns, so no peace with Russia is possible without NATO membership for Ukraine.There was talk of Ukraine joining NATO when Obama was President, and during the first Russian occupation. But NATO turned them down because Ukraine had corruption issues.
Erdogan is playing his own game. Turkey is the only NATO country that gets significant profits out of relations with Russia despite this war (or I some cases, thanks to this war; the grain deal is an example).Are you aware as to what a "populist" is? - well Erdogan - next to the Goebbels scholar in Kiev, is about the No.1 on planet earth.
Firstly he knows that Ukraine will NEVER become a NATO member (check NATO statutes) as long as a war is going on.
Secondly, he screwed up a lot with the USA, - which helped him to win the election, and he is still jonesing/craving for Patriot, F-35's and other USA military goodies. In order to revive the Ottoman dream.
Germany and France will not oppose Ukraine's entry into NATO. American energy is replacing Russian in Europe.
No peace for Russia without Ukraine in NATO.
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It's always the same bull story, coming from pro Goebbels scholar sympathizers, that it wasn't NATO that expanded Eastward, but countries joining them instead.There was talk of Ukraine joining NATO when Obama was President, and during the first Russian occupation. But NATO turned them down because Ukraine had corruption issues.
You can repeat that a hundred times, but that won't change the reality. Ukraine was never close enough to join NATO. NATO refused to provide the MAP and set a certain time period for that. Since 2014 a formal cause emerged to prolong the process indefinitely as long as Ukraine would have 'disputed territories' with a neighbour.Fact is - as it can be seen again with Ukraine, in order to become a full NATO member, the aspirant needs a final formal invitation by NATO. That formal invitation was never extended to Ukraine. Had NATO acted consciously and honest latest in 2021 - NATO or NATO members could have forwarded individual assistance clauses for Ukraine. And Putin could have done nothing about it. - whilst NATO officially declaring that Ukraine will remain neutral.
As such IMO, this "ridiculous war" would never have happened - or e.g. Polish/UK and US troops would be fighting in Donbas now
Actually, peace with Russia isn't possible with NATO membership for Ukraine. NATO membership for Ukraine will be open war declaration against Russia. And the war between NATO and Russia highly likely will be started by the Russian counter-force nuclear strike against Britain or the USA.Actually, what NATO said was that Ukraine would surely become a member of NATO after it came into compliance with NATO requirements, but the truth was that France and Germany opposed admitting Ukraine because it might offend Putin and interfere with energy imports from Russia. Now, of course, these are no longer concerns, so no peace with Russia is possible without NATO membership for Ukraine.
Turkey's Erdogan hosts Zelenskyy, says Ukraine 'deserves' to be NATO member
Turkish President Erdogan’s declaration of support comes amid a fresh push by Kyiv to join the Transatlantic alliance once the war is over.
Wow! What a turn around. If this is sincere, it is a thumb in the eye of Putin. Incredible!
Yeah, but it's the game for more than one player. After Cuban Missile Crisis Khrushchev was overthroned, but JFK was assassinated.Yeah, how has that gone for Putin. Mutiny, assassination attempts, etc.
Actually, they can see what is German understanding of the term 'freedom' (blasphemy, discrimination, abusing and genocide) for the Russians and they don't want it. In fact, given the nature of German ruling regime, the limited nuclear war for wiping out Germany is much more preferred option.Never, never, never and never underestimate your enemy. Putins war on Europe in the Ukraine (and Belarus! which is meanwhile practically a part of Russia) is also a war on Russia and the freedom of the Russians.
